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Southernontariogrower

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What's far more interesting is the genetic mutation, and a valuable one...you have 3 fan leaves, and three shoots coming from one growth node from what I can see in that top photo. You have a triploid.
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Looks like triploid, can be tempermental, only grown one and was best of all in strain. Keep her alive. Im following now!
What's far more interesting is the genetic mutation, and a valuable one...you have 3 fan leaves, and three shoots coming from one growth node from what I can see in that top photo. You have a triploid.
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Keeper for sure!
 

Southernontariogrower

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Thank you guys i will post updates :)
Very cool! Will be waiting, might want to take bottoms for clones, asap. They will be monstercropped if do and can be very nice when vegged out, takes longer than reg clones but worth it. Btw l have post of monstercropped clone, Lst and Kushman crack, check it out, for a preview of what they can do.
 

VincenzioVonHook

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Thank you guys i will post updates :)
For sure. Would be interesting to see if it is a continual trait. Could have a real winner, could be a straight one off, or low chance occurence in the genetics. I've got a blueberry gum auto which is showing some interesting traits at the moment. It was topped at day 10 or so, and immediately sprouted extra growth nodes from the cotyledons overnight, and is growing extra (tiny) veg shoots from main second and third node where pre flowers should start.

Really interesting to see how re-routing the growth hormones from the main tip to the lower nodes really pushed the plant to veg hard from the side branches, and really thicken the main stem.

They are fun plants to mess with.
 

Southernontariogrower

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For sure. Would be interesting to see if it is a continual trait. Could have a real winner, could be a straight one off, or low chance occurence in the genetics. I've got a blueberry gum auto which is showing some interesting traits at the moment. It was topped at day 10 or so, and immediately sprouted extra growth nodes from the cotyledons overnight, and is growing extra (tiny) veg shoots from main second and third node where pre flowers should start.

Really interesting to see how re-routing the growth hormones from the main tip to the lower nodes really pushed the plant to veg hard from the side branches, and really thicken the main stem.

They are fun plants to mess with.
Yes they are, l twist stalk and crush them. They get strong as all hell
 

VincenzioVonHook

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If you are worried about this downwards curling of leaves, I can throw some suggestions from previous experience with a few differing plants in.
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The majority of the time I have seen this it is from low humidity. Plants tend to curl down in low humidity to limit transpiration that takes place when wind passes over the leaves. Plants will taco up at the edges , and pray more, when humidity (and heat) is high to try and catch the wind and aid in perspiration. I could be wrong as I don't know your climate, but on dry and relatively warm days here (which is rare), my plants indoor and outdoor tend to tuck their edges down to limit perspiration, and will bounce back after a watering or if the humidity increases. The hotter and more humid it gets, the more the leaves taco upwards in an attempt to perspire and catch breeze.

Underwatering can do it as well, as the plant will do that to limit perspiration, especially if there is air moving in the room.
 

Southernontariogrower

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If you are worried about this downwards curling of leaves, I can throw some suggestions from previous experience with a few differing plants in.
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The majority of the time I have seen this it is from low humidity. Plants tend to curl down in low humidity to limit transpiration that takes place when wind passes over the leaves. Plants will taco up at the edges , and pray more, when humidity (and heat) is high to try and catch the wind and aid in transition. I could be wrong as I don't know your climate, but on dry and relatively warm days here (which is rare), my plants indoor and outdoor tend to tuck their edges down to limit perspiration, and will bounce back after a watering or if the humidity increases. The hotter and more humid it gets, the more the leaves taco upwards in an attempt to perspire and catch breeze.

Underwatering can do it as well, as the plant will do that to limit perspiration, especially if there is air moving in the room.
Higher humidity helps respiration like vincenzo said. My tent 80rh with lights on 30s when off. 90 degrees with lights on. 70 degrees off.
 

Star Dog

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I've got two plants (clones) in atm, one has only been in a week, it was taken from under T5s then re potted and put into 12/12 the other one has 2 weeks 12/12 + 2 weeks of led veg.

The one that's recently re potted and flipped is showing the same leaf clasping on a few, idk what the cause is but it's not anything major imo, temps and humidity are spot on and the plant is healthy.

Post updates here then all the responders will be able to see it, if you start a new thread it's easily missed.
 

Southernontariogrower

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I've got two plants (clones) in atm, one has only been in a week, it was taken from under T5s then re potted and put into 12/12 the other one has 2 weeks 12/12 + 2 weeks of led veg.

The one that's recently re potted and flipped is showing the same leaf clasping on a few, idk what the cause is but it's not anything major imo, temps and humidity are spot on and the plant is healthy.

Post updates here then all the responders will be able to see it, if you start a new thread it's easily missed.
65%rh right? Imo its too low, lve been running my tent closed at 80rh have never had better growth or health, lve grown alot of pm, but not since rolling with 80rh, l flush humidity at lights out to replenish o2 and bring rh down
 

Star Dog

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65%rh right? Imo its too low, lve been running my tent closed at 80rh have never had better growth or health, lve grown alot of pm, but not since rolling with 80rh, l flush humidity at lights out to replenish o2 and bring rh down
For the 1st time yes :-) 65/70% I'm usually 58/65% early flower then after 7 (ish) weeks I'll put in the dehumidifier and lower as best I can usually 50/55% depending on the local rh%.

With led running cooler vpd suits me great, I'd never actually paid much attention to it on the assumption it would be a pia to maintain... Vpd is actually much easier than trying to control humidity while keeping the temperature up, basically paying to blow heat into the sky lol

Oh yes idk what I'll do mid/late flower 65/70% would keep me awake at night :-(
 

A.k.a

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It could be time of day too. When mine were about that size they started doing the droop before lights out thing.


That third shoot thing is bad ass. I’d for sure top that node and get the three mains.
 

Star Dog

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My understanding is that higher rh limits perspiration it doesn't aid it, if the air is loaded with water then it can't absorb from the plant, low rh% + warm temps make the plant guzzle through water for the opposite reason, it can absorb all the water vapour available usually driving up the ec.
 
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