Cannatrol - Anyone Bought One?

BCBudNerd

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Has anyone bought one of these?

I know that you can do very similar with jars but I am lazy and often have to leave for work for a few days.

Just looking to see if anyone has used one/seen one or bought one?

 

2Hearts

Well-Known Member
I think the industry is slowly catching on how to dry and cure, still they have a long way to go but eventually they will make a device that mimics the quality of the old pros who made better bud without their advice or present junk.

Myself i would buy in at the point it does what i do and eliminates smell, they are not close enough yet and hung up on humidity and long slow drys to the point it can ruin the bud.
 

DCcan

Well-Known Member
That is $1.500 for what I could build at home for about $150 tops.
All that is is a jerky dehydrator with a peltier cooler rewired to blow cool instead of warm. You could do the same with a small refrigerator and PID controller


*For best results keep your Cool Cure in a space at or below 73°F ...that tells me it's a peletier, and rather underpowered for that to be the top operating temp.
 

2Hearts

Well-Known Member
A lot of thick growers, just look at leds and how many bought absolute shit when they first came out.


That is $1.500 for what I could build at home for about $150 tops.
All that is is a jerky dehydrator with a peltier cooler rewired to blow cool instead of warm. You could do the same with a small refrigerator and PID controller


*For best results keep your Cool Cure in a space at or below 73°F ...that tells me it's a peletier, and rather underpowered for that to be the top operating temp.
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

Well-Known Member
Has anyone bought one of these?

I know that you can do very similar with jars but I am lazy and often have to leave for work for a few days.

Just looking to see if anyone has used one/seen one or bought one?

i bought one today and will get it in 2 days but i will send an update asap
 

Tht_Blk_Guy27

Well-Known Member
Has anyone bought one of these?

I know that you can do very similar with jars but I am lazy and often have to leave for work for a few days.

Just looking to see if anyone has used one/seen one or bought one?

Looks exactly as advertised. 20210331_115732.jpgGot a lock on it so you don't have to worry about anybody pilfering buds early lol. Unit comes preprogrammed and they do give you quite a bit of information with the box. Definitely heavy duty cardboard so be a lil rough with it lol. Gonna cure some stuff that just simply doesn't seem to be getting any volatile terbene breakup
 

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EhCndGrower

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Any updates on the finished product? I'm on the fence to buy it, and looking for user feedback. How's the finished smell and bag appeal? I lost so much of the vivid colors from my grow during the drying phase, and significant aromatic loss.

I love everybody talking about they can just do this in their closet, like that works for everybody (If it does, great! Move on so those of us looking for specific information can discuss). 60% RH is very different if you live someplace that's 60 degrees, or someplace that is 85 degrees all summer. VPD FTW
@Tht_Blk_Guy27 started a new thread with more of what you are looking for here
 

HappyTrees84

New Member
I just came across this post. Have two of these. They are awesome...and truly expensive for what they are...and worth it!...to me.

I have a circle of friends who grow and we are always working to obtain connoisseur grade flower. 60/60 - 16 days is standard. Then cure for a month in auto cure buckets in a humidity/temp controlled tent.

If you're doing the above correctly you're 95% there.

If youve acquired top tier genetics and got them to top-tier flowers, AND have the budget, the cannatrol come into play.

Also if you are very busy or have your own business, burping becomes nearly impossible.

In the beginning it was a debate and now no longer is.

Oxidization is something that cannot be denied and a sealed drying and curing environment eliminates that factor. Something that burping cannot. Oxidization degrades organic matter. When you harvest your bud it only degrades from the moment of chop. In the Cannatrol, you are able to set the parameters and keep that flower in the best possible state it can be for every moment of its drying and curing.

What you will pull out will be one step above any way you have dried or cured before. If you are good at it now it's not going to blow your mind. However, if you are good at it now you are also experienced enough to realize the extra fullness of the flavor, the vibrance of the colors and the freshness and cleanliness of the aroma. Zero cat piss. Zero hay smell. We tend to have this misconception that bad smells bacterias and molds are an on/off switch. The truth is, there's always a level of fault in cured flower. It is about minimizing that.

The Cannatrol isnt just about curing your weed or not ruining it while you dry it. It is about doing it the best.

Post harvest in the Cannatrol is comparable with your ability to get to that fine bottle of wine or fine bottle of whiskey or fresh hand rolled cigar.

If your mentality is volume and budget, you might be disappointed. If you're trying to obtain flower you cannot buy, it will take something like this.

Consider how easy it is in 2022 to acquire incredible genetics and grow them to a beautiful expression. Now think about post harvest. The way most cannabis growers handle their crop (especially considering the value) is very primitive. Usually the conversation ends here because people don't want to hear that what they were doing forever could be done better. However, if you were able to face facts with dignity, these are them.

The concepts we use for storing and curing most of our foods today also applies to this organic matter. Home grower's (winemakers, brewers, gardeners) rarely invest what it takes to do it at a "professional" level... Not that you're trying to make money.

A purchase like this comes down to opinion and budget. This is my favorite plant in the world and handing a seasoned smoker something that blows their mind brings me a lot of joy.

This community should acknowledge these concepts and this technology as the state of the art for this industry. Because we can't afford it, is a bad reason to say its not better. Give it 5 years. No one will be introducing oxygen into their flower post-harvest.

Put it in a shed or a room or whatever you want at 60/60 for 16 days, burp your jars and you can have some amazing flower. If you want to take a step forward, and capture the best it will take the cannatrol or something that can create a similar environmental condition.

The value is all up to you. We already know the price is high.
 

Fallguy111

Well-Known Member
I just came across this post. Have two of these. They are awesome...and truly expensive for what they are...and worth it!...to me.

I have a circle of friends who grow and we are always working to obtain connoisseur grade flower. 60/60 - 16 days is standard. Then cure for a month in auto cure buckets in a humidity/temp controlled tent.

If you're doing the above correctly you're 95% there.

If youve acquired top tier genetics and got them to top-tier flowers, AND have the budget, the cannatrol come into play.

Also if you are very busy or have your own business, burping becomes nearly impossible.

In the beginning it was a debate and now no longer is.

Oxidization is something that cannot be denied and a sealed drying and curing environment eliminates that factor. Something that burping cannot. Oxidization degrades organic matter. When you harvest your bud it only degrades from the moment of chop. In the Cannatrol, you are able to set the parameters and keep that flower in the best possible state it can be for every moment of its drying and curing.

What you will pull out will be one step above any way you have dried or cured before. If you are good at it now it's not going to blow your mind. However, if you are good at it now you are also experienced enough to realize the extra fullness of the flavor, the vibrance of the colors and the freshness and cleanliness of the aroma. Zero cat piss. Zero hay smell. We tend to have this misconception that bad smells bacterias and molds are an on/off switch. The truth is, there's always a level of fault in cured flower. It is about minimizing that.

The Cannatrol isnt just about curing your weed or not ruining it while you dry it. It is about doing it the best.

Post harvest in the Cannatrol is comparable with your ability to get to that fine bottle of wine or fine bottle of whiskey or fresh hand rolled cigar.

If your mentality is volume and budget, you might be disappointed. If you're trying to obtain flower you cannot buy, it will take something like this.

Consider how easy it is in 2022 to acquire incredible genetics and grow them to a beautiful expression. Now think about post harvest. The way most cannabis growers handle their crop (especially considering the value) is very primitive. Usually the conversation ends here because people don't want to hear that what they were doing forever could be done better. However, if you were able to face facts with dignity, these are them.

The concepts we use for storing and curing most of our foods today also applies to this organic matter. Home grower's (winemakers, brewers, gardeners) rarely invest what it takes to do it at a "professional" level... Not that you're trying to make money.

A purchase like this comes down to opinion and budget. This is my favorite plant in the world and handing a seasoned smoker something that blows their mind brings me a lot of joy.

This community should acknowledge these concepts and this technology as the state of the art for this industry. Because we can't afford it, is a bad reason to say its not better. Give it 5 years. No one will be introducing oxygen into their flower post-harvest.

Put it in a shed or a room or whatever you want at 60/60 for 16 days, burp your jars and you can have some amazing flower. If you want to take a step forward, and capture the best it will take the cannatrol or something that can create a similar environmental condition.

The value is all up to you. We already know the price is high.
So is making posts part of your job at cannatrol?
 

HappyTrees84

New Member
Lol...no sir. Im a believer...what can i say. I am an apple grower in NY. Our industry has gone to controlled atmosphere for nearly all the fruit we grow today. It just makes sense to me. Now that I'm trying it with my herb... It still make sense.

It's a big investment. I wanted to be thorough in that post in case someone was seriously considering it.

I would absolutely love and might try to build a bigger, cheaper version of one of these but the concepts still apply. My Auto Cure buckets in controlled temp/humidity tent does well. The cannatrol does better. I would consider adding an inert gas for the burping interval to the tent, but probably wont, now. When you water to run off you are physically flushing nutrients out. Those nutrients are no longer in your soil. When you flush the air out of a jar. Those terpenes are gone. The new air that is comes in is fresh with oxygen and ready to go to work oxidizing that organic material.

I have two boxes. I was indecisive for about a month about buying these. After I bought them, I still didn't feel warm and fuzzy. Now that I'm smoking out of them, i understand.

About a month ago (middle of apple harvest) I spent about an hour and harvested a Tropicana cherry plant that was at 59 days. I filled the box, closed the door and forgot about it. 25 days later, I opened the door for the first time and smoked the best herb I've ever smoked in my life.

It is beyond any doubt for me but I've been fortunate enough to see it in person. It was a huge risk dropping $3,200 on basically two mini fridges. Now I want two more. The $1,600 a pop is the problem.

My post was for the person that was seriously asking about the Cannatrol and not looking for another "Ive been drying it in my shed for 20 years and it's been just fine" response.

You do bring up a good point and if Cannatrol is reading this and wants to send me a couple free boxes, I will continue to post my results.
 

Fallguy111

Well-Known Member
It just seemed suspicious that your first and only posts were marketing a product. I noticed on the other cannotral thread there is coincidentally someone with their first and only post was also promoting this product. If I'm mistaken apologies and welcome to riu.
 

HappyTrees84

New Member
All good. I rep NY Apples! I bet that did sound like marketing. I'm a nerd and really get into this stuff.

It's funny because i talk with my uncle and my brother about learning so much from forums and YouTube and we never contribute back.
 

pahpah-cee

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“Add water”

what is that about? Is there a humidifier in there?

What’s your recommended temp/RH throughout the drying process?


I rigged a wine cooler with a dehumidifier. I throw my material inside and everyday I bring my humidity % down 1 point. I’m keeping the temp constant at 57-59F (Dehum adds heat so it bounces a little). I’m still experimenting so I wouldn’t mind a little insight.
 
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HappyTrees84

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I would love to do something like this.

In my brain, if you are reliably avoiding new oxygen, maintaining temperature and maintaining humidity, you are almost achieving the goal. Do that 24/7 and you're nailing it. My experience with a fridge was that I could not get mine high enough temp for what I wanted and the humidity swing was all over the place. I threw an ink bird in there and watched it for a while just to see.

Your temp and % stay consistent?

If you found a way to achieve consistency with those numbers and can keep the door closed your damn close. Id probably consider a mini fan in there to have a bit of circulation...but VERY LITTLE. otherwise you're achieving the goal in my opinion.

I don't have any insight but something I always avoid like the plague is temperatures below 50 and above 70. Humidities above 65 and below 55.

The cannatrol is brutally simple and basic technology. You're mainly paying for the computer that automates it i think and the fact there really not another product like it, available yet.

The "add water" part refers to a little piece of sponge in a PVC cap that sits on one of the shelves. This allows it to keep the moisture up to where it needs to be as you get deeper in the cure. I make sure it is moist when I load it and have not had to add any through the entire cure.

For all these reasons, I've been very satisfied with the curing bags as well. they need to be in the right temperature and everything else is good. There are people that will argue humidity pack/bags are not as pure but that is probably the second place finish after the Cannatrol.

Would love to hear more about your custom build. I want to do this for a full size freezer.
 

pahpah-cee

Well-Known Member
I would love to do something like this.

In my brain, if you are reliably avoiding new oxygen, maintaining temperature and maintaining humidity, you are almost achieving the goal. Do that 24/7 and you're nailing it. My experience with a fridge was that I could not get mine high enough temp for what I wanted and the humidity swing was all over the place. I threw an ink bird in there and watched it for a while just to see.

Your temp and % stay consistent?

If you found a way to achieve consistency with those numbers and can keep the door closed your damn close. Id probably consider a mini fan in there to have a bit of circulation...but VERY LITTLE. otherwise you're achieving the goal in my opinion.

I don't have any insight but something I always avoid like the plague is temperatures below 50 and above 70. Humidities above 65 and below 55.

The cannatrol is brutally simple and basic technology. You're mainly paying for the computer that automates it i think and the fact there really not another product like it, available yet.

The "add water" part refers to a little piece of sponge in a PVC cap that sits on one of the shelves. This allows it to keep the moisture up to where it needs to be as you get deeper in the cure. I make sure it is moist when I load it and have not had to add any through the entire cure.

For all these reasons, I've been very satisfied with the curing bags as well. they need to be in the right temperature and everything else is good. There are people that will argue humidity pack/bags are not as pure but that is probably the second place finish after the Cannatrol.

Would love to hear more about your custom build. I want to do this for a full size freezer.
so I don’t take credit for this DIY project. It came from: http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?/topic/420066-wine-cooler-conversion-curer/&page=22

and also @Blue brother jumped on this which gave me motivation to try it out.


If you look at your cannatrol you will notice it has a fan (I think there is two actually) in the back. This is the “peltier” or thermoelectric cooler. This is different than a refrigerator which uses a compressor. Thermoelectric coolers can keep the temperature roughly 20F cooler than ambient room temperature.

the Dehum we slap inside the wine fridge is also thermoelectric. I’ve noticed the Dehum is more of an assistant. The main peltier really does the majority of the work. The Dehum is hooked up to a inkbird humidity controller.

Ignore the mess - I’m not cleaning up for people on the internet.
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this isn’t a finished project. I’m still testing and modifying it.
 
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