Club 600

Blue brother

Well-Known Member
Anyone ever buy good leds from a top brand and find they miss the hps?. I allways grew with hps but last year bought myself a pair of hlg350r led fixtures, fantastic lights and I can’t fault them one bit against other led fixtures I’ve seen, they’re powerful, the heat is managed well, I like the dimensions and the footprint and the plants do seem to prefer the white light. Really a top top piece of kit.

but …..
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i miss (some things about) the mighty 600w hps.

I’ve upped the tent size from the last runs 1.2m square tent to a 2mx1m rectangular tent, spread the leds out and dropped my old faithful 600w adjustawing in the Center.

I’m planning on using it at 100% from week3 ish of flower until 2 weeks before harvest, at which point I’m gonna swap it over for a 10k finishing bulb. My thinking is that the infra red radiation put out by the hps will warm the canopy and make my plants transpire at a more desirable rate, I ended up running a heater in the tent all through my last run with only leds.
I also reckon that leds are designed to in a way that allows them to be used for all stages of plant growth, while this is brilliant for the consumer, I do believe that flower development is aided by the extra red spectrum the hps will bring to the table.

anybody got any advice? Or experience? Or wanna ask a question? Shoot
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
Anyone ever buy good leds from a top brand and find they miss the hps?. I allways grew with hps but last year bought myself a pair of hlg350r led fixtures, fantastic lights and I can’t fault them one bit against other led fixtures I’ve seen, they’re powerful, the heat is managed well, I like the dimensions and the footprint and the plants do seem to prefer the white light. Really a top top piece of kit.

but …..
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i miss (some things about) the mighty 600w hps.

I’ve upped the tent size from the last runs 1.2m square tent to a 2mx1m rectangular tent, spread the leds out and dropped my old faithful 600w adjustawing in the Center.

I’m planning on using it at 100% from week3 ish of flower until 2 weeks before harvest, at which point I’m gonna swap it over for a 10k finishing bulb. My thinking is that the infra red radiation put out by the hps will warm the canopy and make my plants transpire at a more desirable rate, I ended up running a heater in the tent all through my last run with only leds.
I also reckon that leds are designed to in a way that allows them to be used for all stages of plant growth, while this is brilliant for the consumer, I do believe that flower development is aided by the extra red spectrum the hps will bring to the table.

anybody got any advice? Or experience? Or wanna ask a question? Shoot
I think the 350r has deep red diodes added in. All the manufacturers are designing that in now going forward. Lack of heat was originally thought to be a boon but the increased efficiency of led fixtures has proven to be a challenge in some situations.

Love your vintage gullwing!
 

gr865

Well-Known Member
Can I play, I am just about to finish my first grow with the HLG Scorpion Diablo.
Have bounced around over the past 10 years, tried a 400 HPS, a SS400 from Cal Light Works, then moved to two 315W CMH (used both for horizontal and vertical grows. Just move to the Diablo, and liking it a lot.
From this Diablo grow, received 18 Cookies & Cream regular seeds from a buddy in California, and am just a couple of days away from harvest, will be around day 61 or 62.
The ladies have begun turning purple and a majority have nice purple color.
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Lots of trichs and some nice buds.
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Full tent
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Mr.jojodancer305

Well-Known Member
Can I play, I am just about to finish my first grow with the HLG Scorpion Diablo.
Have bounced around over the past 10 years, tried a 400 HPS, a SS400 from Cal Light Works, then moved to two 315W CMH (used both for horizontal and vertical grows. Just move to the Diablo, and liking it a lot.
From this Diablo grow, received 18 Cookies & Cream regular seeds from a buddy in California, and am just a couple of days away from harvest, will be around day 61 or 62.
The ladies have begun turning purple and a majority have nice purple color.
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Lots of trichs and some nice buds.
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Full tent
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Well damn sir
 

jigfresh

Well-Known Member
Anyone ever buy good leds from a top brand and find they miss the hps?. I allways grew with hps but last year bought myself a pair of hlg350r led fixtures, fantastic lights and I can’t fault them one bit against other led fixtures I’ve seen, they’re powerful, the heat is managed well, I like the dimensions and the footprint and the plants do seem to prefer the white light. Really a top top piece of kit.

but …..
View attachment 5068147
i miss (some things about) the mighty 600w hps.

I’ve upped the tent size from the last runs 1.2m square tent to a 2mx1m rectangular tent, spread the leds out and dropped my old faithful 600w adjustawing in the Center.

I’m planning on using it at 100% from week3 ish of flower until 2 weeks before harvest, at which point I’m gonna swap it over for a 10k finishing bulb. My thinking is that the infra red radiation put out by the hps will warm the canopy and make my plants transpire at a more desirable rate, I ended up running a heater in the tent all through my last run with only leds.
I also reckon that leds are designed to in a way that allows them to be used for all stages of plant growth, while this is brilliant for the consumer, I do believe that flower development is aided by the extra red spectrum the hps will bring to the table.

anybody got any advice? Or experience? Or wanna ask a question? Shoot
I noticed a difference switching from HID to LED but none of it put me off. Just two sides to a coin in my eyes. I had to cool things off way less as there wasn't so much heat. There wasn't as much temp difference between lights on and lights off. I used less water because it didn't evaporate as quickly. I wasn't worried about burning plants (either light bleaching or burning with heat). I didn't get the penetration into the canopy I did with the HID, but the yield wasn't too much less. (I never did a g/watt analysis or anything though) The buds didn't seem as tight, but they looked nicer. And I feel for my setup the plants enjoyed the lower stress from the LED aka less heat stress.

Most of these effects were pretty setup related though. I was in a 2' x 3' closet (less than 1m x 1m).

My buddy, and 600 club member, puts out some of the best buds I've been around running LED's.

 
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