Snickerpus
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Coco and ph levels
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Trickster52
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I cant stop my need and thirst for knowledge
This is vital information, if i want to optimize my watering frequency for my setup and for my needs. So now i can keep my ph stable for longer time for watering every 2 days.
"You dont need this information" isnt really helping.
Your iwannaberight egos just feel threatened. But its ok now, it sure was hard work with you guys, but now i got THE INFORMATION I NEEDED
im grateful.Never abandon the role of student and just be a teacher. Because then you cant be a teacher.
Thank you all for this experience, it was a pleasure
The uptake of anions (negatively charged nutrients) and cations (positively charged nutrients) by plants can cause substantial shifts in pH in the growing system. If more cations are absorbed in relation to anions, the pH will decrease. If more anions are absorbed than cations, this leads to an increase in pH.
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Introduction to pH | Effect of pH on crop Results | CANNA Gardening USA
The pH of the soil and the feeding water are essential aspects of a good feeding plan. PH does directly affect the availability of the nutrients.
Trickster52
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Thank you, i will look deeper into thisThe uptake of anions (negatively charged nutrients) and cations (positively charged nutrients) by plants can cause substantial shifts in pH in the growing system. If more cations are absorbed in relation to anions, the pH will decrease. If more anions are absorbed than cations, this leads to an increase in pH.
.Introduction to pH | Effect of pH on crop Results | CANNA Gardening USA
The pH of the soil and the feeding water are essential aspects of a good feeding plan. PH does directly affect the availability of the nutrients.
Trickster52
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A thousand thanks to you stranger <3 seems like this was right on the money!!! You have been blessed with the tricksters loving spirit..The uptake of anions (negatively charged nutrients) and cations (positively charged nutrients) by plants can cause substantial shifts in pH in the growing system. If more cations are absorbed in relation to anions, the pH will decrease. If more anions are absorbed than cations, this leads to an increase in pH.
.Introduction to pH | Effect of pH on crop Results | CANNA Gardening USA
The pH of the soil and the feeding water are essential aspects of a good feeding plan. PH does directly affect the availability of the nutrients.
Snickerpus
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At the end of the day it will be the plant (and environment she lives in) who determines which ions will be uptaken. Since there is actually no reasonable way how to find it out, because they can not speak and you do not have the lab to do the tests, you have to admit, that the best treatment is to provide balanced nutrient solution at right pH the most frequently you are possible, without drowning the roots. So it is actually proven that something between 3-4 hours between events wont cause your roots to rot. There are many more variables which comes to game like calcium carbonate content in your source water, salts you use or was used to mix botlle fert, their nitrate/amonium/urea ratios and content, your pH down, if you use silicates, how strong your food is and environmental factors. In short you want to reset cocos pH and EC values as much as possible since you do not know what is happening there. Have fun with your optimalization
twentyeight.threefive
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Hand watering coco isn’t the best setup for lazy people. Some people will actually put more work into trying to figure out how to actually do work.
So out of curiosity now, with the information you learned here what are you going to actually change with your feeding schedule/regiment to keep your pH stable longer?
Trickster52
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Actually plants talk to you if you can listen. Thanks for your support.At the end of the day it will be the plant (and environment she lives in) who determines which ions will be uptaken. Since there is actually no reasonable way how to find it out, because they can not speak and you do not have the lab to do the tests, you have to admit, that the best treatment is to provide balanced nutrient solution at right pH the most frequently you are possible, without drowning the roots. So it is actually proven that something between 3-4 hours between events wont cause your roots to rot. There are many more variables which comes to game like calcium carbonate content in your source water, salts you use or was used to mix botlle fert, their nitrate/amonium/urea ratios and content, your pH down, if you use silicates, how strong your food is and environmental factors. In short you want to reset cocos pH and EC values as much as possible since you do not know what is happening there. Have fun with your optimalization
Trickster52
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Irrelevant, you dont need that information
twentyeight.threefive
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Exactly. How many grows have you completed? You posted under the Newbie section so it obviously not a lot if any. Based on your questions and attitude I’m guessing zero. There’s nothing wrong with that I’m just wondering.Irrelevant, you dont need that information
Trickster52
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Irrelevant. You dont need that information either. You just like to argue. You are one of those people
good luck!xX24nuggetsXx
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If you water to run off with nutrients ph’d to the same amount every time it shouldn’t go up or down unless the plant isn’t absorbing the nutrients it’s being fed which would then cause fluctuations. In my experience with my grow at the moment all my plants have stayed consistently at 6.1ph which is what I bring my water to before watering with the canna a+b nutrients expect one which when I tested it’s ppm from run off was still at 900ppm. If there’s no salt build up inside the coco then you shouldn’t have an issue.
twentyeight.threefive
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You think I’m here to just argue, but I’m just trying to help you.Irrelevant. You dont need that information either. You just like to argue. You are one of those people
I guess I was right again. Another first time or theoretical grower that knows better than everyone else.
Anyways I’d love to see pictures of your buddies plants that he feeds once week in coco and grows “fire”. He must use like 50 gallon pots so they aren’t bone dry after a day. After two days of not feeding my tiny plant it was wilting and half dead.
What kind of magic does he use to feed once a week and not have his plants look like this?
jondamon
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DrOgkush
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Lmao. Wtf kinda drugs is this kid on.
If your smart. You’ll listen to what 28 is saying to you. And your friend that grows fire and feeds once a week. Your a lair. Science and common knowledge of coco 101 know you can’t go that long without feed. But it’s irrelevant right. Your definition of irrelevant means it’s not real or true. Why don’t you troll thru 28s grows. Maybe that will change your mind on how lucky you are he’s even helping you. All he does is talk shit to me.
If your smart. You’ll listen to what 28 is saying to you. And your friend that grows fire and feeds once a week. Your a lair. Science and common knowledge of coco 101 know you can’t go that long without feed. But it’s irrelevant right. Your definition of irrelevant means it’s not real or true. Why don’t you troll thru 28s grows. Maybe that will change your mind on how lucky you are he’s even helping you. All he does is talk shit to me.
Trickster52
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How often are you watering?
xX24nuggetsXx
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At this present point of time I’m watering once every 2 days 2.5L at a time and then increase the amount of water once the leaves start sagging each day with PPM at 500 with canna a+b and calmag
jondamon
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It’s tomatoes and tomato’s old pal.
I’ve been feeding my 11L (3Gallon) pots twice to 3 times a day for the majority of the flowering cycle.
Last run I grew 1 single plant in 2 gallons of coco in the same footprint 3x3 and I was feeding every 2 hours.
the idea being that each environment and plant will let you know how often you can feed.
Can you feed once every day. Yes.
Can you feed once every couple of days. Yes but this way can accumulate salt build up and it’s about knowing the signs.
Considering you’re on your first INDOOR grow using coco I would suggest you feed once per day during veg and twice per day during flowering.
Rather than worry about what’s happening to the coco pH every hour I would be more concerned with completing a full cycle of growing in coco.
Unless you’re going to invest in serious lab equipment to keep the coco pH constantly read and monitored I just can’t understand why you’ve been so hostile to folks around you offering the same advice.
Trickster52
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Ok thanks. How and what kind of pots are you using? Did you check the medium with a slurry test and it stayed the same?
jondamon
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are you planning on doing daily slurry tests?
What’s your issue with feeding daily?
It seems like you want to skip over what the optimum is going to be and instead you’re choosing to converse with a grower who’s been growing since January 2022 when you’ve got guys in here who’ve been using coco for over a decade ffs.