Copycat genetics

DGCloud

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That's exactly why I've been researching before I buy. Especially clones. A lot of fakes out there saying they have the legit clone I actually ask to see where they got it from and see if the story matches up. I don't claim I have the legit clone unless they show me proof. I'm no breeder but I like to dabble in making my own seeds. As for seeds I go with the originator of the strain. So if someone is saying they have f2s of say oreoz I would rather but from the breeder that made it instead of someone's f2s at least I know it came from a great cut instead of whatever was In The pack, but please do what makes you happy. I agree with Dankiller on this one.
 

Mr.jojodancer305

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I agree but finding the original cut from a trusted source is hard to do and can be quite expensive. I would rather get five or six original cuts and breed them to create my own.
 

DanKiller

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That's why seeds are a good source of original cuts, well, used to be, now if you can't get a hold of the original clone, good luck finding what the guys who hold the original clone have in the seed choices and fake parents.
 

DanKiller

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Btw for example the GG4 case, I'm willing to bet that the cut of sour and chem used were both killer, so no wonder GG4 was found from those seeds, and if they had more of them I'm sure they would have found crazy phenos there.
Every case that I see in here or friends or even mine, best bet and always has been is to buy some herb you like and find good and damn hope there's a seed or two there.

That's why I moved to outdoor, it's better today, it also gives me a chance of scoring some nice seeds that I know first-hand how their parents smoke, that all that matters to me, I don't care if they are mutants that grow like penguins if they smoke good.
And it's kinda but still better than shady mystery pack with fancy logos that no one knows nothing about.
 

1littlesoldier1

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You can probably count on one hand the breeders that actually work with the elite cut of each genetic they claim.

Everything else is s1 or f1, and good luck finding anything.



It all depends where did this s1 came from, if it came from a poor cut of that genetic it's gonna be lame no matter how much seeds you run
But if the s1 came from proven origins, your bound to hit, and a lot.
I remember buying 5 seeds max of each strain back in the day, 4/5 is same killer plant like their mom, why bother with more plants ?
That's the consistency we are after, I don't adventures, I want what the description says !
If you advertise your seeds as ko potency flavour off the charts, and then you grow 10 seeds and find nothing... so what's this all about ?
In the description we are getting a hint to the killer clone that is used to make those seeds, we want to smoke it ! Not run around it's entire genetic pool, there's a reason you make seeds from elite cuts only, and it's to get a small chance of smoking what people actually used/sell you.

If you toss out even that small chance, what are your seeds worth other than a name and a pretty box ? And that sums up most of seed makers these days.
People hold the power in their pocket but they don't use it.
Nah man, i tried lots of S1, including Humbolt CSI, drgreenthumb, HSO and many others. All SHIT! never touching an S1 again. Clones from now on
 

DanKiller

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I doubt they hold the original clone they claim, I could be wrong though.
My exp was different, any s1 I put in the soil was killer (10 years ago)
Today I dunno, th demand is so high for something killer in the market, I find it weird that people will give their elite cuts to make seeds of to other people
So like @DGCloud said, best to stick to the cut the breeder is known for and did himself.
Anything else is a shot in the dark honestly.
If I make a killer cut one day somehow, I will make seeds outta it, like GG4, and be known for it, now after some time has passed I offer a whole line up of crosses with supposedly elite cuts of each... Sounds too far fatched to me

You know, sometimes you stop and wonder for a sec, wait, I'm a normal guy with means and I can't get 10% of what people are talking about (in terms of cuts, clones, etc)
So how in the hell every other day a brand comes along with all the latest crosses and killer seeds ? Is there a place to source those elite cuts to use as you wish ?
Just don't make sense to me that someone will give away his killer cut to any breeder now that wants to make a quick buck, wasn't the case before and it's certainly isn't now.
More logical, it's just s1 of s1.
 

Mr.jojodancer305

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@DanKiller I so agree with you. Most growers are nothing but pollen chunkers and not many take the time to do a proper pheno hunt and selective breeding as far as copycat goes it's more of a hit and a miss can't really say for sure if he does have the original cuts but I must say some of his gear is very much smokable. Most growers came to fame from word of mouth or the best way would be to win a Cannabis cup which is very hard to do. I'm a big skeptic when it comes to growing gear from other people gorilla glue was a real hit but trying to find the mother I grew years ago would be impossible. Mentioning breeders I must stop by and say doc's dank seeds you cannot miss. I love all of his gear and he is very much underrated. My favorite from doc would be his slimy ball. Other breeders such as Cali connection Buddha rare dankness and dark horse Bruce banner are not in the limelight like they used to be every 5 years a new breeder steps up into the light such as Donnie's Burger. My all-time favorite I would have to say is DJ Short blue moonshine hands down. I have always wanted to cross DJ Short blue moonshine with Bruce banner followed by chem dog number 4.
 

Mr.jojodancer305

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I doubt they hold the original clone they claim, I could be wrong though.
My exp was different, any s1 I put in the soil was killer (10 years ago)
Today I dunno, th demand is so high for something killer in the market, I find it weird that people will give their elite cuts to make seeds of to other people
So like @DGCloud said, best to stick to the cut the breeder is known for and did himself.
Anything else is a shot in the dark honestly.
If I make a killer cut one day somehow, I will make seeds outta it, like GG4, and be known for it, now after some time has passed I offer a whole line up of crosses with supposedly elite cuts of each... Sounds too far fatched to me

You know, sometimes you stop and wonder for a sec, wait, I'm a normal guy with means and I can't get 10% of what people are talking about (in terms of cuts, clones, etc)
So how in the hell every other day a brand comes along with all the latest crosses and killer seeds ? Is there a place to source those elite cuts to use as you wish ?
Just don't make sense to me that someone will give away his killer cut to any breeder now that wants to make a quick buck, wasn't the case before and it's certainly isn't now.
More logical, it's just s1 of s1.
I'm looking for a original cut of dj shorts flo or moonshine also Virginia skunk
 

DanKiller

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I just have one question that bothers me,
Let's take Archive as an example,
Why anyone, let alone breeders, give other people, again, let alone breeders, their killer cut ?
Even the so called breeder cuts they sale, are they the real deal ? Can anyone even know ?
How come every other seed maker out there, make let's say, Dosidos seeds, when supposedly only Archive hold the original elite clone of it ?
Maybe I'm missing something here ?
Please feel free to correct me anytime as I'm walking on thin ice here and don't want to make too many assumptions lol
 

MtRainDog

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I just have one question that bothers me,
Let's take Archive as an example,
Why anyone, let alone breeders, give other people, again, let alone breeders, their killer cut ?
Even the so called breeder cuts they sale, are they the real deal ? Can anyone even know ?
How come every other seed maker out there, make let's say, Dosidos seeds, when supposedly only Archive hold the original elite clone of it ?
Maybe I'm missing something here ?
Please feel free to correct me anytime as I'm walking on thin ice here and don't want to make too many assumptions lol
No one can know for sure except the person who grew it from seed.
 

DanKiller

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So again that leads us to the same conclusion, if you want the best chance, go with the breeder that found the special lady.
 

1littlesoldier1

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The truth is money buys anything so a breeder cut is most likely sold for a high price and then whoever bought it wants to make money too so he sells it for cheaper and so on and so on so
 

Mr.jojodancer305

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Stop by my opp to check on the ladies and I must say copy girls are really wreaking with smell more of a flower sweet strong punching smell it's time to turn on the scrubbers on the other side of town is doc's dank seeds and it is more of a earthy tone funk. Doc gear it's really packing on the weight but copy might put on weight later down the line I really wish you guys and gals can smell what I smell this is unreal. I took a chance and I think I'm winning
 

DanKiller

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Everybody is cheering you on bro, keep up the good work ! At the end we all wish for something fire to smoke without a lot of hassle.
 
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