Mad878
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Try taking the pots out of the pans you have them in. it collects whatever drains from your soil.
Diagnose leaf twisting
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Yellowbeard4761
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I drain the overflow into a container and measure ph. This gives me a better idea than just measuring the water going in. Then it goes down the drain.
Yellowbeard4761
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So first, thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
I probably should have posted this in the plant problems section.
I've done this several times now, the last 3 with my current setup. The one thing i changed this time was to use a dry fertilizer from fox farms instead of the general hydro products. Regreting that now.
Normally i would soon be transplanting from these intermediate pots to 5 gal buckets. The 3 of them i'm not too worried about. The sick one i'm not sure if it needs to get better first, or if moving it into cleaner soil would help it if ot doesn't get shocked.
I probably should have posted this in the plant problems section.
I've done this several times now, the last 3 with my current setup. The one thing i changed this time was to use a dry fertilizer from fox farms instead of the general hydro products. Regreting that now.
Normally i would soon be transplanting from these intermediate pots to 5 gal buckets. The 3 of them i'm not too worried about. The sick one i'm not sure if it needs to get better first, or if moving it into cleaner soil would help it if ot doesn't get shocked.
JimmiP
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I would be willing to bet, if you did just up-pot them, lift them off the floor and do nothing else, the problem will go away.
Good luck friend!
Vtlegalindoor
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Is there water in that dish and can her roots breathe? She looks waterlogged I'm experienced in greenhouses and I think you should replace the dish with a towel or something that can breathe i always remove the dishes from new pots before using for this reason good drainage is crucial to success in growing anything.
Herb & Suds
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Yellowbeard4761
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Yeah I think drainage is good. I think maybe transplanting to a bigger pot may help.
Budzbuddha
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Ph is too low …
Raise it to 6.5-6.7 , no distilled , just water.
Low ph can result in leaf twist
Raise it to 6.5-6.7 , no distilled , just water.
Low ph can result in leaf twist
drsaltzman
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Definitely PH related.
Too low for soil.
Too low for soil.
Budzbuddha
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However I think Root Rot is also at play …..
IMO … pull plant like for a transplant , look at rootball - if affected take some sterilized scissors or razor trim off the rotted parts , knock off most of that soil , transplant into larger newer medium.
But see if a ph correction brings any vigor back first.
IMO … pull plant like for a transplant , look at rootball - if affected take some sterilized scissors or razor trim off the rotted parts , knock off most of that soil , transplant into larger newer medium.
But see if a ph correction brings any vigor back first.
Tangerine_
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It hasnt recovered because thats a root issue
They're choking and locked out
That pH should be fine for that medium
They're choking and locked out
That pH should be fine for that medium
Yellowbeard4761
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Interesrting... <says Spock> in the past my soul tended to be high ph and I had to drop the water low, but the runoff ph was still high.
I'll try raising it a bit. But I do plan to transplant soon.
JimmiP
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Afternoon rereading this I still think it needs to be up-potted. Also you started it's running warm in there. And it's not. It is too cold. You are using cfls and some LEDs, that weren't built for growing plants. LEDs (especially non grow light specific LEDs) need higher temperatures. Shoot for at least 84 with the lighting you are using.
Also your pots are on the floor with aluminum pie plates, helping to draw heat out of the rootzone. And with the temps you have in there the soil temperatures are probably too low. Which causes problems with magnesium, phosphorus and potassium uptake and metabolism (which also maybe depleted in that container). But not so much for nitrogen.
I believe that with the soil you are using, ph isn't an issue. At least not as much as it may seem to be. I think it's that the roots are cold, crowded and running low on easily accessible magnesium and phosphorus. And I believe, if you give the plant a bigger container with fresh soil, a warmer environment with a little more humidity and get all of them off the floor the issue will correct itself.
Vtlegalindoor
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I needed more of a resource pool I'm nearing the end of my first indoor grow 4 bag seed ladies of unknown genetics lots of fun. I used to grow for myself back in the 90's and I remember much of the process I used but have only cultivated outdoors its all nfs and legal where I'm at i can gift or trade and have been using that avenue to acquire new genetics.i do have some agricultural background and I live in Vermont so there's no shortage of farmers. Trouble with the Vermont group is that i get a lot of trolls that think that their way is the only way and attack anyone doing things their own way. I'm sticking with some tried and true methods promix osmocote and miracle grow and an equation of 1 gallon of pot for each foot of height. These are my results half way through week three of flowering cycle what do you think?Welcome new member to RIU
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Herb & Suds
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To be honest they look ok but possibly overwatered
Vtlegalindoor
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Darkness pictures with flash they droop at night and reach for the light when they are on my clones however are generally over watered here is what they do in the light 
Vtlegalindoor
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I'm going to switch to burlap bags in place of pots for final potting it's currently giving me the best results if you grow in cool spaces I think you should consider the option the evaporation factor allows for more frequent watering and therefore MORE FREQUENT FEEDING my plastic pots dry out too slowly at 55 to 65 farenheit
Vtlegalindoor
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The plant at near right is in a 6 gallon canvas bag it is outperforming the rest the plant far right is in 6 gallon plastic pot with good drainage
drsaltzman
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Cold wet roots ... yes, that's also a possibility.
One thing I've learned using bagged soil is that not every batch is the same.
The Roots 707 I've been using the past couple of months is way more acidic than usual.
And has a lot less forest product.
Some of this bagged shit is almost all coco/peat these days.
You almost have to treat it like hydro.
But yes, I agree that the OP should get the plants off the floor, into some fresh new soil, and add some mycos/bennies into the hole.
Yellowbeard4761
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So yeah, going into 5 gal buckets this weekend. I'd do it sooner of possible. This soil is Fox Farms and I would have expected it to be perfect given that it's from Humboldt county. Hopefully it was the dry fert and new soil will help. Watered tonight and the runoff was below 6 even when I used unadjusted water.