as a canadian, why would americans work so hard to dissuade others from something so beneficial for THE WHOLE POPULATION?
DNC Lawyers Argue DNC Has Right to Pick Candidates in Bathrooms
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here's my citation..where's yours?
Polls find Sanders, not Clinton, has better chance against Trump
In a general election matchup, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders topples Donald Trump by twice as much as Hillary Clinton, according to polling data from RealClearPolitics.
https://www.thestate.com/news/databases/article77396342.html
hanimmal
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This is a good place to start as any.
From the original Washington Post article that the website sourced their entire post on:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-ahead-of-republicans-2016-launch/2015/08/05/e2b30bb8-3ae3-11e5-b3ac-8a79bc44e5e2_story.html
Clinton returned Trumps previous calls, which makes sense if your trying to get some money for your wife campaign, right? But the link to that article you posted said this is:
She is saying that because he was polite to a previous donor (who is a moronic wealthy jackass, always known to be spouting off political nonsense) that is talking about running for president (again) and Billy boy was polite to the guy and didn't say something like "you suck at life and should leave running the country to people that have actually worked for a living and understand how much they don't know about shit outside their own experiences" that he encouraged Trump to run...
This is how these things work, it is a small thing to start with, but their bullshit propaganda adds up and they stacked it so high it was hard to see over it. These troll factories hired tons of 'writers' to make these short blurb style hit jobs and report them like actual news based on a cut up version of another person's work to give it credibility.
They count on people not looking deeper, and if they do firewalls blocking them from seeing it. And if someone does actually go to the article and looks at the comment sections to see what 'their side' is saying, they will find that chat flooded with propaganda troll posts that are following the narrative they had already decided to run with.
Then to top it all off, they will make these internet 'newsites' like OANN that only contain the stories that they want their bubble to contain, and nothing that they don't so that people never know to look for more information and draw their own conclusions.
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Budley Doright
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Canadian dollars are worth less, what can I say. Your very intelligent, I can tell by your sharp comebacks and wit lol.
hanimmal
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Whats that tell you that Trump paid Stormy Daniels (illegally) more than the highest paid off Democratic candidate running for president?
I am not a 'candidates should not except donors money kind of voter' though. I refuse to give money to politicians because I need it more, so I figure they need to get it somewhere. It doesn't mean that they are owned by them unless they start doing dirty shit. I am all for transparency though.
That is why I am very worried about the way Trump has invited foreign nations into interfering with our countries electorate. They don't need to be transparent about money that they are spending in our elections. And with them funneling money through companies like the NRA in the millions, we need to know more about what is going on and Trump and Mitch are stonewalling every investigation.
hanimmal
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Like you said, she was a cold fish. This is another thing that 1. If a true email and not one of the falsified ones that the Russian disinformation campaign were shown to have planted in the data dumps they did to wikileaks after they hacked the DNC for Trump, just because someone said that in a email it doesn't mean it wasn't said as a joke for having to talk to hundred of people everyday while running for president. And 2. I enjoy my dogs more than people, I don't mind people, but the older I get the more I realize I am looking forward to being a old retired hermit. I like to joke I am like the Unabomber just not naive enough to think I can change the course of human society with a few stamps.
It is funny I couldn't agree with you more on this entire post but think it is for an entirely different reason.
Unclebaldrick
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So the person who insists that polls are useless has found one that suits her purposes and now claims that it is actually accurate.
You are a hypocritical retarded old woman.
hotrodharley
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Bottom line- to blame this whole deal on a misinformation campaign is weak weak weak. However I’m open to hearing which Tweets some of the obvious pinheads here were affected by. Obviously they were. Probably extensively.
hotrodharley
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So much for weak minded individuals I reckon. A country full of simpletons.
BurtMaklin
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People with privilege are afraid to lose it.
hanimmal
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I know it got my dad. He was talking about chemtrails and government being out to get us stuff. My little brother lives with him and was just as paranoid. One of my older brothers was spouting anti Obama conspiracies for years, but I didn't think it was a problem really until 2017 opened my eyes. When Trump posted a Stormfront conspiracy, I could no longer ignore it, the president of the United States is too important to the country to troll us citizens and not have it turn into a dangerous situation for people who don't know better.
https://www.npr.org/2018/08/23/641181345/heres-the-story-behind-that-trump-tweet-on-south-africa-and-why-it-sparked-outra
I don't know if the guy doesn't actually just believe this stuff like my dad. He adopted all the same mannerisms and really ended up just hating that I would not buy what he was saying. I really hope its just that and he is not aware that he is using the most vile disinformation against our citizens in a way that is tearing us apart. But the longer it goes on and the more desperate he is getting the more he is using it, so who knows. If he wins again and the republicans win the house we will likely never really know what happened.
Budley Doright
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While I’m glad we have universal healthcare I wonder/worry if we’re not heading towards a 3rd world level of care in some instances. My experience has been for the most part great but I also would like to see the hallway medicine curtailed and wait times lowered. I spent 8 hrs in the hall of an emergency dept hooked to a heart monitor on a stretcher waiting for a critical care bed and what I saw was horrific. The nurses and doctors (2 that I could see) were inundated with patients, supposedly it was a slow period
. I can relate to people that, if they can, would opt for a more streamlined approach in some cases. The provincial cuts that are now taking place due to a right wing government bent on saving money at any cost is the wrong approach and very short sighted IMO.
hotrodharley
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Go be a patient with the same complaints in most city hospitals in the USA and see the same shit. The very same stuff including waiting for a room.While I’m glad we have universal healthcare I wonder/worry if we’re not heading towards a 3rd world level of care in some instances. My experience has been for the most part great but I also would like to see the hallway medicine curtailed and wait times lowered. I spent 8 hrs in the hall of an emergency dept hooked to a heart monitor on a stretcher waiting for a critical care bed and what I saw was horrific. The nurses and doctors (2 that I could see) were inundated with patients, supposedly it was a slow period
olaf687
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Right on the money at least someone has a brain here!
I also read the wikileak emails all the way back before the election. I saw the emails that you discussed about the DNC sabotaging Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton was not supposed to be nominated, the bitch stole it!
And that's why lots of Bernie Sanders gave Clinton the middle finger and voted for Trump out of spite. Hillary Clinton is responsible for getting Trump elected period. I voted for Trump last minute as, wtf ill vote for the wild card! At least Trump finally got the general public to question mainstream media. I been trying to get that in people head way before Trump came to the picture. He just stole alot of us Independents ideas and ran on it. Basically a shitty plastic wrapped version of Ron Pauls movement who I supported when Obama was running.
But he's doing a half ass job and I can see through him. If he was true patriot he would not be picking Bush jr cabinet picks, he would not be attacking the 2nd amendment. He should be educating the public about auditing and removing the Federal Reserve. He just doesn't have the balls like JFK. And course we all know what happened when JFK opened his mouth about the Federal Reserve....
Now to be honest I also think Bernie Sanders is plastic wrapped puppet too with his own agenda.
He's for gun control and flooding in refugees without checking who's coming in. And he's for the fake climate change bs. Also pushing the old socialism agenda.
Now I'm all for stopping pollution like oil, heavy metals, and chemicals. I'm also believe in getting rid of oil based plastics with hemp biodegradability plastics. Now that would be a REAL solution for actual pollution than worrying about CO2! But again these politicians will never give you the real solutions. They twist and pervert good movements to NOT solve the problem and find way to make another money making scam.
But you got to be an idiot to believe CO2 that plants release at night is causing global warming! Guess we should cut the whole amazon rain forest down while were at it because of them releasing that EVIL CO2!
The sun and earth shifts cause climate change NOT fucking CO2! Many scientist also agree with this! And most who are spreading that CO2 bs are, "political scientist"! And are usually not Independent or have conflicts of interest!
olaf687
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Don't even try man they don't have the cerebral capacity to keep up with real facts and counter arguments! It's a herd mentality, a monkey see monkey do mentality. Just regurgitate the same political propaganda every time. Don't learn from history, nope just repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
Than of course these idiots cause another Civil War kill and torture each other and drag us poor bastards down in it!
While the real rats, that cause these problems sit back and laugh at all the dumb monkeys repeating the same fucking mistake for 1000s of years over and over....!
I swear to god I live in the movie Idiotcracy. I feel I was punished being incarnated on this earth with these idiot monkeys lol! Sometimes I ask myself am I in hell already? I feel your pain!
olaf687
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I wonder how much Uncle Buck is getting paid to be an Antifia member?
olaf687
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I'm ok with a woman president but NOT a bitch like Hillary! Are we really that retarded that were just gonna vote for someone cause of their gender? I don't give shit if the president black, brown, a woman, ugly as fuck, etc! As long there talking about abolishing the Federal Reserve, stopping the wars, and getting rid real parasites that's all I give a fuck about! And if anybody else had a brain here they would figure that out too!
BurtMaklin
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And you won't have to go bankrupt to get the medical attention you need, nor will you be turned away because you can't afford it. 8 hours in a busy hallway is a fair trade off for a $100,000 + hospital bill or death.While I’m glad we have universal healthcare I wonder/worry if we’re not heading towards a 3rd world level of care in some instances. My experience has been for the most part great but I also would like to see the hallway medicine curtailed and wait times lowered. I spent 8 hrs in the hall of an emergency dept hooked to a heart monitor on a stretcher waiting for a critical care bed and what I saw was horrific. The nurses and doctors (2 that I could see) were inundated with patients, supposedly it was a slow period
Budley Doright
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And you think Bernie has the solution to that? I really have no ideal what his plan entails other than it’s basically model after the Canadian plan, which is administered by the provinces I might add. And thanks for not calling my mom a whore lol.
Budley Doright
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Yup it is.