Discussion in 'Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy' started by tortie, Jul 24, 2014.
Spirit and flesh.
62 vs 113. I'm surprised. Doesn't the 113 know that Something can not come from nothing, that making anything requires divine design?
Where did Cannabis come from? Star dust. Where did star dust come from? I know. Do you?
Where did God come from if something can't come from nothing?
In both scenarios, "something" comes from "nothing". Theists claim to already have the answer which is justified by faith. Atheists claim that nobody can know the answer at the current time. Since faith isn't proof of anything, it's more logical to assume the answer for the creation of existence is still very much up in the air.
Although, I wouldn't say "atheists claim" anything... To fit into the category of atheist, you just needn't have a belief in god. No claim is required.
The old "god of the gaps", argument.... If theists want to relegate god to an ever-shrinking mystery that is unexplained by science, let them. Soon enough, the only thing they'll have left to claim is that god might have played a hand in something before the big bang.
What's your take on the big bang? Is it something you support?
Of course. It's the scientifically accepted answer to the question, "how did the universe begin?"
You know that it was theorized by a Jesuit, yes?
edit: "If the world has begun with a single quantum, the notions of space and time would altogether fail to have any meaning at the beginning; they would only begin to have a sensible meaning when the original quantum had been divided into a sufficient number of quanta. If this suggestion is correct, the beginning of the world happened a little before the beginning of space and time."
New in town. Has anyone said aliens?
"We're the aliens, maaaan."
How's it going? Long time no see.
Doing well for a bit again, thanks. Good to see you still here. I guess you got sick of the cacophony in tnt as well. Looks like there's a lot of target rich environments in this section. How are you?
Believe in God? Fuck No!!!
Yes. Not any religious interpretation, but I believe in a higher power, be it "God" or what have you.
Science and religion used to go hand in hand. I think that they are headed back towards that direction today.
Doing well, thanks! Nice to see another familiar face.
(*doing well - again... was there a lapse? Sorry, still a little out of the loop.)
I stayed away for a bit, partly for that reason, but also just because I was super-busy and focused on other stuff. I still like to come here and read up on good info.
Been a very rough few years, but I am near the top of the mountain and expect to stay. This place is a break from reality for sure. Some funny folks that provide laughs I wouldn;t normally find irl. Who doesn;t like a train wreck, am I right?
I hope all is well in your super busy world. Don;t forget to stop and smell the roses along the way.
There is a God and he is the only god. we will all be fucked when we meet him. That is all.
I doubt it
Sorry but the point remains that early religious endeavors did not impregnate modern cosmology with a concept of a 'first cause', that's lacking from science. There's certainly no scientific support for one.
I wonder if the answer that the universe began without a cause is sufficient for people who hold so much of their own meaning in having a cause, that the universe was created for them, to support human life.. I'm sure it couldn't be, so how could they ever accept it even if we proved it? It's not like people don't deny reality today if the alternative makes them more comfortable
I have a standing offer to the Christian God, since he loves human sacrifice so much, My offer is this, I go to the Middle East and let myself be captured by Isis. They beat me half to death and then crucify me. Instead of coming back to life, I go straight to hell for eternity. It isn't publicized so I get no credit or glory for it. Now THAT'S a real sacrifice, unlike Jesus' fake one! In return all I ask for is to stop all suffering in the world for humans and animals alike.
You listening God? How bout it?
I believe the big bang was the start of the universe because it was theorized, and then the evidence that supports the theory was found.
"Who" doesn't matter, "how" does.
Anyone can theorize something, whether or not there's a good reason to believe it or not is a different matter.
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