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badspark

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DIY-HP-LED said:
It ain't them, it's the racist scumbags and fools who voted for them gave them power and their voice. Do you honestly think they will lose any of their voters over this? Even the ones with relatives dying from cancer? Sacrifices have to be made for the cause, not many who voted for these clowns will care at all, even if they get a treatment attributable from it. Issues only matter to people who care and give a shit for others and their country, not for the morons who voted for these two winners.
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Issues DON'T matter. Politics are are popularity contest for the rich. None of them care about you. Did you donate a few million to any campaigns. No you didn't. Then they don't care about you. When you want to divide and conquer, politics are probably the best tool of division you could use. Politics also give you an imaginary high ground for you to virtue signal from. Case in point: You immediately jump to vague generalizations about the "other side" by lumping all of them into one group as well as attacking them by calling them racists and fools. You know who else does this? Racists and fools do.

It's easier to steal everything the monkey has if they throw a shiny tin foil ball into the cage so we keep fighting with eachother over it to keep us distracted. That way the monkeys forget we're being held in a cage for a minute and they're free to reach in a grab what they want. They also refill our food and water. That way they can say "Look I'm keeping you alive." Meanwhile we could have gotten all the food or water we wanted AND be free if we weren't put in the cage to begin with.
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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badspark said:
Issues DON'T matter. Politics are are popularity contest for the rich. None of them care about you. Did you donate a few million to any campaigns. No you didn't. Then they don't care about you. When you want to divide and conquer, politics are probably the best tool of division you could use. Politics also give you an imaginary high ground for you to virtue signal from. Case in point: You immediately jump to vague generalizations about the "other side" by lumping all of them into one group as well as attacking them by calling them racists and fools. You know who else does this? Racists and fools do.

It's easier to steal everything the monkey has if they throw a shiny tin foil ball into the cage so we keep fighting with eachother over it to keep us distracted. That way the monkeys forget we're being held in a cage for a minute and they're free to reach in a grab what they want. They also refill our food and water. That way they can say "Look I'm keeping you alive." Meanwhile we could have gotten all the food or water we wanted AND be free if we weren't put in the cage to begin with.
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I agree with most of this, but the issues do matter, and if you are passionate about something you want to see changed, you can't be complacent or overly cynical. Organizing at a grassroots level and just making some noise is an extremely powerful and underestimated way to raise awareness. Public education and advocacy training combined with lobby calls and even internet posts about an issue can get you media attention - which can sometimes influence the way a politician will react to that issue.

I also don't think it's 'virtue signaling' to care about something enough to take some kind of action. I think it's basic human nature.

You're right about how things are designed, though. It's completely broken.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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badspark said:
Issues DON'T matter. Politics are are popularity contest for the rich. None of them care about you. Did you donate a few million to any campaigns. No you didn't. Then they don't care about you. When you want to divide and conquer, politics are probably the best tool of division you could use. Politics also give you an imaginary high ground for you to virtue signal from. Case in point: You immediately jump to vague generalizations about the "other side" by lumping all of them into one group as well as attacking them by calling them racists and fools. You know who else does this? Racists and fools do.

It's easier to steal everything the monkey has if they throw a shiny tin foil ball into the cage so we keep fighting with eachother over it to keep us distracted. That way the monkeys forget we're being held in a cage for a minute and they're free to reach in a grab what they want. They also refill our food and water. That way they can say "Look I'm keeping you alive." Meanwhile we could have gotten all the food or water we wanted AND be free if we weren't put in the cage to begin with.
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Let's define "they" shall we, feel free to go into some detail. The republicans serve the 1% while screwing their base that were drawn by the culture wars dog whistle. They and their base are now reduced to sedition, insurrection, treason, cheating and voter suppression and are circling the political drain. They are now a collection of domestic terrorists, gun nuts, morons, mentally ill and Qtards, racism and bigotry are the only thing that holds them together

Policy doesn't matter to Trump supporters, just culture wars and they are a proxy for racism. They raise all their money on culture war issues and none on policy issues. A dead give away was the fact the republicans had no platform, no policy positions on the issues. Policy was whatever came out of Trump's ass, in that moment, cause he often changed what little mind he had, depending on the last person who spoke to him.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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scumrot derelict said:
I agree with most of this, but the issues do matter, and if you are passionate about something you want to see changed, you can't be complacent or overly cynical. Organizing at a grassroots level and just making some noise is an extremely powerful and underestimated way to raise awareness. Public education and advocacy training combined with lobby calls and even internet posts about an issue can get you media attention - which can sometimes influence the way a politician will react to that issue.

I also don't think it's 'virtue signaling' to care about something enough to take some kind of action. I think it's basic human nature.

You're right about how things are designed, though. It's completely broken.
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Issues and policy matter to those who care about their country and society, feelings matter to republicans, not issues. The only people talking issues and policy are the democrats, the republicans are all about Dr. Seuss, and other culture war distractions. Trump distilled them down to their essence and shrank them, as any with brains went independent out of embarrassment. The only thing they organized was a half assed insurrection and sacking of the capital and ended up fucking themselves in the process, these folks ain't smart and it shows.
 
scumrot derelict

scumrot derelict

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blu3bird said:
I just delivered a trailer full of frozen turkey breast from Tyson. My boss donated this load to feed the homeless



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My boss doesn't virtue signal, he takes action
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good man! maybe were not so doomed afterall

DIY-HP-LED said:
Issues and policy matter to those who care about their country and society, feelings matter to republicans, not issues. The only people talking issues and policy are the democrats, the republicans are all about Dr. Seuss, and other culture war distractions. Trump distilled them down to their essence and shrank them, as any with brains went independent out of embarrassment. The only thing they organized was a half assed insurrection and sacking of the capital and ended up fucking themselves in the process, these folks ain't smart and it shows.
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Grassroots organizing is also really powerful because it allows consumers to speak directly about their experiences and the effect of certain laws. It helps organizations collect stories from consumers, and then those stories can become powerful weapons in a policy campaign. Bottom line is, if you want change, you have to get your shit together and organize - not just complain.
 
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Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Issues and policy matter to those who care about their country and society, feelings matter to republicans, not issues. The only people talking issues and policy are the democrats, the republicans are all about Dr. Seuss, and other culture war distractions. Trump distilled them down to their essence and shrank them, as any with brains went independent out of embarrassment. The only thing they organized was a half assed insurrection and sacking of the capital and ended up fucking themselves in the process, these folks ain't smart and it shows.
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Some folks are all about distractions.

We should soon see an Earth Day Ad to appease the Dems. for losing the climate change case in N.Y. last year.
It would have killed Exxon.
www.opensecrets.org

Exxon Mobil PAC Contributions to Federal Candidates

Exxon Mobil gave $1,147,800 to federal candidates in the 2019-2020 election cycle. See the details.
www.opensecrets.org www.opensecrets.org

Corporate law, $500 Billion Deal with the Russians. Some things are in plane sight. (except Chaney)
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Grandpapy said:
Some folks are all about distractions.

We should soon see an Earth Day Ad to appease the Dems. for losing the climate change case in N.Y. last year.
It would have killed Exxon.
www.opensecrets.org

Exxon Mobil PAC Contributions to Federal Candidates

Exxon Mobil gave $1,147,800 to federal candidates in the 2019-2020 election cycle. See the details.
www.opensecrets.org www.opensecrets.org

Corporate law, $500 Billion Deal with the Russians. Some things are in plane sight. (except Chaney)
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Cash and everything else dealing with Russia will be shut down by the end of the summer, including Exxon's deal. Their money will be useless, the democrats will take it but ignore the lobbyists and the republicans are now useless to them. Between fucking the Russians and the green new deal they are screwed, I figure the green new deal will be used to screw the Russians and will get the support it needs because of it. America is gonna screw Russia for the next 20 years minimum, unless mother Russia shits out Vlad. In the short term that will mean killing pipeline deals, crashing the price of oil (fuck Saudi Arabia) and the Russian currency, in the longer term it means less dependency on oil and gas with EVs and energy storage technologies for the grid.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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badspark said:
Issues DON'T matter. Politics are are popularity contest for the rich. None of them care about you. Did you donate a few million to any campaigns. No you didn't. Then they don't care about you.
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Is people caring about you what you look for in a politician? Most people don't spend time thinking about a person they don't know and have never met before enough to care about them.

I disagree with your stance on politics. I think historically that yes the fact that it has only been wealthy white men in office that the only real understanding they had was about how to benefit them. The Republicans have kept this tradition alive and troll anything not directly benefiting them as 'socialism' or whatever other '-ism' they pull out of their asses.

We need 100% of our population represented so that our government can finally legislate intelligently for 100% of our population. We are just now getting to the point that we have one major political party trying to do that.

badspark said:
When you want to divide and conquer, politics are probably the best tool of division you could use. Politics also give you an imaginary high ground for you to virtue signal from. Case in point: You immediately jump to vague generalizations about the "other side" by lumping all of them into one group as well as attacking them by calling them racists and fools. You know who else does this? Racists and fools do.
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You are correct about the 'divide and conquer'. But unfortunantly you really don't seem to understand the actual warfare that is going on in our society when you forget who is the ones really saying the things you highlighted.

Hope you stick around.

Remember the trolling is endless, so if you are a real person and not another paid troll (foreign or domestic) get you know your ignore feature.

badspark said:
It's easier to steal everything the monkey has if they throw a shiny tin foil ball into the cage so we keep fighting with eachother over it to keep us distracted. That way the monkeys forget we're being held in a cage for a minute and they're free to reach in a grab what they want. They also refill our food and water. That way they can say "Look I'm keeping you alive." Meanwhile we could have gotten all the food or water we wanted AND be free if we weren't put in the cage to begin with.
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Im sure this sounded good but I don't really get it.

We have the ability to make everything that we need as a society and just are getting to the point that we realize we need to do things far far better as a species than we have had to to get to this point.

But the good news we have been running at about 33% efficiency in America for hundreds of years, so I am very hopeful of all the things we do when we are operating at 100% capacity.


badspark said:
Issues DON'T matter. Politics are are popularity contest for the rich. None of them care about you. Did you donate a few million to any campaigns. No you didn't. Then they don't care about you. When you want to divide and conquer, politics are probably the best tool of division you could use. Politics also give you an imaginary high ground for you to virtue signal from. Case in point: You immediately jump to vague generalizations about the "other side" by lumping all of them into one group as well as attacking them by calling them racists and fools. You know who else does this? Racists and fools do.

It's easier to steal everything the monkey has if they throw a shiny tin foil ball into the cage so we keep fighting with eachother over it to keep us distracted. That way the monkeys forget we're being held in a cage for a minute and they're free to reach in a grab what they want. They also refill our food and water. That way they can say "Look I'm keeping you alive." Meanwhile we could have gotten all the food or water we wanted AND be free if we weren't put in the cage to begin with.
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