Drug Screening

AvalonX said:

argh I think it might be a 20 nl test. https://ltd.aruplab.com/Tests/Pub/0090453

I'm not sure though. This is what they ordered: 9DSP/EXP OPI/CUSTOM LEVELS/OXY/PHN

Does this change anything?

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I used to sell test kits and detox etc. 20ng is standard for jobs, 15ng for government jobs etc. As long as you haven’t smoked in a month or more you’re a pass. You took the proper precautions to pass naturally, so I wouldn’t worry.
Just be confident and know you’ll pass and you’ll be fine

also, to comment on the discrimination / legality comments above:

In Canada this would be considered discrimination (if you smoke MEDICAL and have a card/license) as this is medicine.

However.. because of issues mentioned above (work safety etc) you can still get tested for it in Canada and get let go. It’s only discrimination if it’s medical.

Green_Alchemist said:

I used to sell test kits and detox etc. 20ng is standard for jobs, 15ng for government jobs etc. As long as you haven’t smoked in a month or more you’re a pass. You took the proper precautions to pass naturally, so I wouldn’t worry.
Just be confident and know you’ll pass and you’ll be fine

also, to comment on the discrimination / legality comments above:

In Canada this would be considered discrimination (if you smoke MEDICAL and have a card/license) as this is medicine.

However.. because of issues mentioned above (work safety etc) you can still get tested for it in Canada and get let go. It’s only discrimination if it’s medical.

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The discrimination here would be the same for any drug, even a prescribed drug, that is a narcotic and affects judgment, safety consciousness, etc., so if one really had the need to use pain medicine on a regular basis, they are better off finding a new job that doesn't have such restrictions. Which is only fair, in my opinion.

Driver733 said:

After 54 days, you should still be fine, unless it is a hair follicle test. What kind of job is it?

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Its an IT job but its a healthcare company. Its urine. I dont know, this says something different. https://blog.employersolutions.com/ask-the-experts-drug-testing-cutoffs/

Someone told me on another board it takes 90-120 days to piss clean. That cant be right.

Driver733 said:

The discrimination here would be the same for any drug, even a prescribed drug, that is a narcotic and affects judgment, safety consciousness, etc., so if one really had the need to use pain medicine on a regular basis, they are better off finding a new job that doesn't have such restrictions. Which is only fair, in my opinion.

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The one thing here is this was a job sprung on me (without even applying). I am in the states. Also, I was not a heavy smoker/vaper. I used mostly a 1:1 CBD:THC oil and a THC rub. Neither of which do you get high off of. Had I known I would have stopped for longer although the states are funny. You can pass with pills detected as long as you have a script. THC however...

Driver733 said:

What do you mean by legit? Even with a medical card here in Vermont, if my employer requires me to be drug-free, I have no choice, it is still illegal under federal law, if the employer says no, then no means no.

This would be even more critical for any employment involving safety sensitive positions, such as truck driver, heavy equipment operator, crane operator, etc. - the insurance company will require constant drug tests to confirm abstinence, and if there is an accident and the operator is using drugs, they are looking at prison time.

So it is still a big deal for many people.

The best thing to do, of course, is quit if one has a job that requires abstinence.

And yes, it is discrimination - in favor of people who do not use drugs, which is the point of testing.

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No kidding! I didn't realize Vermont hadn't updated their laws. Obviously anything Federal, or that falls under the federal umbrella hasn't changed and is still using laws from the stone age. I live in Maine, and it used to be as long as you had an active medical card a positive test couldn't be used against you being considered for a job. However, when recreational cannabis became legal here, it changed again to include everyone so an employer can't discriminate due to a positive marijuana test. Most employers have just stopped testing for it, but if it is part of the test anyway, they just overlook it. Even with the recreational laws in effect, I still maintain my medical card, and it still feels so weird and like I'm doing something illegal when i walk out of a dispensary with my goodies in plain sight. Thanks for the good information!

Namichau said:

No kidding! I didn't realize Vermont hadn't updated their laws. Obviously anything Federal, or that falls under the federal umbrella hasn't changed and is still using laws from the stone age. I live in Maine, and it used to be as long as you had an active medical card a positive test couldn't be used against you being considered for a job. However, when recreational cannabis became legal here, it changed again to include everyone so an employer can't discriminate due to a positive marijuana test. Most employers have just stopped testing for it, but if it is part of the test anyway, they just overlook it. Even with the recreational laws in effect, I still maintain my medical card, and it still feels so weird and like I'm doing something illegal when i walk out of a dispensary with my goodies in plain sight. Thanks for the good information!

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Maine is like the one state that built in protection. I think NJ (which isnt actually legal yet) is also adding protection. The other states, you are hosed and I am freaking. I am at 55 days but that lower level has me spooked. I could take it Monday but honestly, is a few days going to make a difference when I am testing clean on my test anyway.

AvalonX said:

Maine is like the one state that built in protection. I think NJ (which isnt actually legal yet) is also adding protection. The other states, you are hosed and I am freaking. I am at 55 days but that lower level has me spooked. I could take it Monday but honestly, is a few days going to make a difference when I am testing clean on my test anyway.

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So during college I actually worked at a hospital lab. You are far enough out that your level would be very low. If they are using just a urine drug screen dip cup (Either you pee right into the cup and they use a special tool that opens a valve on the cup, which wets the dip sticks with urine, or they have a plastic test pack that they open and dip it in the urine for 30 seconds, remove it, and then put the cap back on.) the chances of it coming up positive is low since the concentration of THC metabolites wouldn't be strong enough to cause a positive reaction. If its a test where you pee in a cup and its sent to a lab where they send it through a machine which can pick up on the lower levels, I would just do a good flush and use the recommended supplements they suggested in previous posts. Most places go for the cheapest option which is a dip stick. Secondary confirmation tests, or lab grade initial tests are expensive options, so you don't see that as much. Hope this helps!

Clinical Interpretation of Urine Drug Tests (mayoclinicproceedings.org)

Green_Alchemist said:

I used to sell test kits and detox etc. 20ng is standard for jobs, 15ng for government jobs etc. As long as you haven’t smoked in a month or more you’re a pass. You took the proper precautions to pass naturally, so I wouldn’t worry.
Just be confident and know you’ll pass and you’ll be fine

also, to comment on the discrimination / legality comments above:

In Canada this would be considered discrimination (if you smoke MEDICAL and have a card/license) as this is medicine.

However.. because of issues mentioned above (work safety etc) you can still get tested for it in Canada and get let go. It’s only discrimination if it’s medical.

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Does this include the oil I took? I took a 1:1 CBD/THC oil under the tongue and swallowed the rest. You mentioned edibles could be different. Then again, why would I be passing at home for the last 2 weeks. Still good right?

Driver733 said:

What do you mean by legit? Even with a medical card here in Vermont, if my employer requires me to be drug-free, I have no choice, it is still illegal under federal law, if the employer says no, then no means no.

This would be even more critical for any employment involving safety sensitive positions, such as truck driver, heavy equipment operator, crane operator, etc. - the insurance company will require constant drug tests to confirm abstinence, and if there is an accident and the operator is using drugs, they are looking at prison time.

So it is still a big deal for many people.

The best thing to do, of course, is quit if one has a job that requires abstinence.

And yes, it is discrimination - in favor of people who do not use drugs, which is the point of testing.

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Well in all fairness if you were on oxys would you fail too?
Things a little diff here in Canada. I have a script for cannabis. My employer may say im not allowed to smoke at work but what what i do at home is not their business
Im sorry you guys still have to deal with the bs of all this. Hopefully Biden will change it up and give you some more freedoms. Also. I dont consider myself to be a 'drug user' actually the complete opposite. If it wasnt for cannabis id be on perks or oxys for my pain. So in a way cannabis saved my life. Thats why im so passionate about it
Good luck man i hope it works out for you and again sorry you have to deal with that

AvalonX said:

Does this include the oil I took? I took a 1:1 CBD/THC oil under the tongue and swallowed the rest. You mentioned edibles could be different. Then again, why would I be passing at home for the last 2 weeks. Still good right?

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The reason edibles are around 3 months Is because it’s generally a higher dose and is fully digested.
You should be fine though if that’s all you took is the oil and smoke etc.
I only like to mention this with edibles in case the individual prefers them and is over the 200lb mark with a slower metabolism, that’s when it can take up to 3 months to flush it fully out

if I passed a home kit and took a full month break, honestly I’d be pretty confident. It’s stressful but you should be all good

Quick fix +

Green_Alchemist said:

The reason edibles are around 3 months Is because it’s generally a higher dose and is fully digested.
You should be fine though if that’s all you took is the oil and smoke etc.
I only like to mention this with edibles in case the individual prefers them and is over the 200lb mark with a slower metabolism, that’s when it can take up to 3 months to flush it fully out

if I passed a home kit and took a full month break, honestly I’d be pretty confident. It’s stressful but you should be all good

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Thank! Its in the hands of the universe now. I did all the right things and I was so nervous they probably got my 10th piss for the day! I was monitored as expected. They asked me to lift my shirt and all of that so its good I didnt try anything funny. They said if the lab has questions, they will call. Who knows now.

Lordhooha said:

Milk thistle does little to clear you of thc. Milk thistle is used during steroid cycles to keep from getting your liver values too high. Most athletes use it on off seasons to prep. Plus higher end labs can detect masking agents and other such tricks.

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I had a friend who worked for a very large firm, they would do random tests, but he was always given the heads up a day before he was tested.

He was a heavy pot smoker, after MT the next day he was cleared, not a single trace of THC in his system.

It 100% removed all traces of cocaine for another friend of mine.

He had an interview for a job the next day after railing a few lines of rack.

Same thing he passed the test.

It's used for many things amigo, normally for people with liver damage, etc.

But it does work, just need to drink a lot of water with it.

H1ghTime said:

I had a friend who worked for a very large firm, they would do random tests, but he was always given the heads up a day before he was tested.

He was a heavy pot smoker, after MT the next day he was cleared, not a single trace of THC in his system.

It 100% removed all traces of cocaine for another friend of mine.

He had an interview for a job the next day after railing a few lines of rack.

Same thing he passed the test.

It's used for many things amigo, normally for people with liver damage, etc.

But it does work, just need to drink a lot of water with it.

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Whatever you say milk thistle has some benefits but none are for detox. For information purposes I was a urinalysis coordinator in the military. Its very possible they diluted it enough with water. As for the coke it has a short halflife.

Lordhooha said:

Whatever you say milk thistle has some benefits but none are for detox. For information purposes I was a urinalysis coordinator in the military. Its very possible they diluted it enough with water. As for the coke it has a short halflife.

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I simply gave evidence of 2 people who passed urine tests with the help of Milk Thistle.

Enough said thank you.

rmax said:

In my neck of the woods there is a $ Tree that sells marijuana drug tests. Everything is $1.00. It'd be worth it to buy 1/2 dozen tests to test on yourself when in a known state and after trying home remedy cleanses.

4.3 stars and they have a website.

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Assured At Home Marijuana Drug Test Kits

https://www.dollartree.com/new-choice-at-home-marijuana-drug-test-kit/159503

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So, two years ago I changed jobs and needed to drop , quit completely. 45 days later that exact test above , showed dirty! Went to another vendor of test kits and was clean, scrimp on test, too important

nl5xsk1 said:

So, two years ago I changed jobs and needed to drop , quit completely. 45 days later that exact test above , showed dirty! Went to another vendor of test kits and was clean, scrimp on test, too important

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I used in total 3 different brands although one of them was really expired. It still showed Neg and that was on 1/11. I looked at the highest reviewed tests on Amazon and went with that. I was so nervous today that I kept pissing. The tests I took before I went to the lab was an instant Neg, dark lines. They got about 2 pissed after that. I did take my b vitamins and about 2.5g of creatine this morning as well. I just cant see failing. I know it happens, but 55 days today. I have to pass.

AvalonX said:

I used in total 3 different brands although one of them was really expired. It still showed Neg and that was on 1/11. I looked at the highest reviewed tests on Amazon and went with that. I was so nervous today that I kept pissing. The tests I took before I went to the lab was an instant Neg, dark lines. They got about 2 pissed after that. I did take my b vitamins and about 2.5g of creatine this morning as well. I just cant see failing. I know it happens, but 55 days today. I have to pass.

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Dude your good to go

Be sound mate.