Egan: Sell pot just like LCBO, where boss earns $500K and clerks $27 an hour

Discussion in 'Canadian Patients' started by gb123, Oct 11, 2017.


    gb123 Well-Known Member


    The government selling weed to anybody is a terrible idea.

    So is the creation of a subsidiary of the Liquor Control Board of Ontario to create and run a retail network.

    I was noodling around Ontario’s sunshine list on Monday, the phone-book sized document that catalogues public-sector salaries over $100,000.

    The LCBO has either 359 or 313 employees on the list — honestly, it was like counting jelly beans in a giant jar — including a president and CEO who made $494,308 in 2016. Everyone worth every penny, no doubt.

    But it brings us to the central point when the government retails anything: the overhead costs are ridiculous. The stand-alone Cannabis Control Board of Ontario — if such is even its name — will be required to have “a board,” with paid members, supporting staff, some kind of secretariat one imagines, and an audit committee and such, and an annual report, and a logo, and offices and, one assumes, many, many more people on the sunshine list. This is before it sells a single gram.

    The LCBO as a model? I was skimming its 2015/16 annual report, a 104-page gripper I’m sure cost nothing to produce. It listed 10 vice-presidents. It did not list the names of 8,000 in-store employees, most of them casual, some of whom earn close to $27 an hour to put wine in a bag.

    That year, it cost $874 million in total expenses to run the LCBO, a scandalous sum lost in the vast billions that liquor brings in and the annual premium it sends to the province ($2 billion, give or take).

    (Under “divisional expenses,” there was an entry for $122 million for “administrative” work, plus $43 million for sales and marketing and $31 million for logistics. The noodle boggles.)

    For our own safety, no doubt, the LCBO reported it did 633,000 “quality assurance lab tests” in one year, for which there must be a whole department, with staff and supervisors and directors and barons and earls. Lord only knows how they’ll test truckloads of weed to be smoked by our kids.

    You know, life was so much simpler when the mob and bikers ran marijuana.

    So, the point is an old one, like the story of the $1.99 hammer that costs $59.99 after nine departments and six committees, in two languages, decide it is an appropriate device to strike nails. The government, not driven by a profit motive, is bad at selling and buying things.

    Already, the first 40 stores — we’re guessing Ottawa gets three or four — sound silly. There will be no self-service and the products will not be “visible” to youth, instead in some kind of behind-the-counter setting. It being the government, the stores won’t be junky, but high-end, full of security devices and vaults and probably cost the Earth to lease or build.

    People will line up for their pot, one assumes, like getting your licence-plate sticker, or returning stuff to IKEA. It sounds miserable. The products will not be sold alongside alcohol because, you know, these are two nations under God that never intersect.

    Staff, the government assures, “will have knowledge of the individual products and public health information about how to use cannabis responsibly.” (On that note, I’d like to see the one living public health official who is going to encourage anyone to use cannabis “responsibly” or otherwise.)

    There seems to be all this concern about keeping these weed shops away from schools. Why? Isn’t cannabis a suitable product for anyone over the age of 19? If not, why is the government selling it? And doesn’t the CCBO want to sell as much marijuana as possible? If so, set up right across from Carleton University and uOttawa and Algonquin.

    Or are we just embarrassed about the whole thing?

    The Globe and Mail published the results of an interesting poll on Monday. It found only seven per cent of respondents agreed with the Liberal government pitch that legally distributing marijuana would lead to a drop in consumption by Canada’s youth.

    That’s because 93 per cent of Canadians are smart.

    On the weekend, a friend related this comment passed along by her buddy: “You know, I haven’t talked to one parent who thinks this is a good idea.”

    Look at the lead quote from Yasir Naqvi, Ontario’s attorney general and himself the father of young children, who makes it sound like the province is retailing vials of nitro to young people with the jitters.

    “We’ve heard people across Ontario are anxious about the federal legalization of cannabis.” (Oh, “heard” have you?)

    Booze, gambling, weed. How are any of these a public service in Ontario, Yours to Discover?

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    cannadan Well-Known Member

    "That year, it cost $874 million in total expenses to run the LCBO, a scandalous sum lost in the vast billions that liquor brings in and the annual premium it sends to the province ($2 billion, give or take)."
    so paying staff 30 bucks an hour and managers all on the sunshine list...
    you can imagine that it will effectively double the cost of what ever the starting point is...
    so are we talking $ 20 plus bucks a gram.. between high lp cost and 100 percent markup for overheads, and taxes on top...?

    gb123 Well-Known Member

    we knew it
    we said it
    here it is them trying it too.
    We all know how thats NOT gonna work eh ;)
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    cannadan Well-Known Member

    thing is no one listens to mmj one.
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    The Hippy

    The Hippy Well-Known Member

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    CalyxCrusher Well-Known Member

    Let's not forget all of that without ever seeing or smelling it first. And with some companies renaming already established strains. Haha take care comb your hair. How does this eliminate the BM again? Oh thats right its meant to keep people going to the BM to prosecute them under the newer more strict laws passed under the guise of legalization

    At least its starting to seem that way
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    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    Lol it will be so funny going to the wcbo and getting some shwag you can't smell lol. That is a winning retail model.

    LOL. Even the greedy fucks who want a monopoly are so dumb. So dumb. Hide your husbands.
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    The Hippy

    The Hippy Well-Known Member

    Hard to believe really how dumb they are eh Karl? lmao it should be funny to watch
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    WHATFG Well-Known Member

    and what happens when this fails? it going to be a fix on the fly like the medical progrqam? seems like there hasnt been much thought put into this.
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    gb123 Well-Known Member

    The only thought they had was HOW MUCH MONEY WE"RE GONNA MAKE :)

    funny they don't realize how badly their mistake was guessing! ;)

    They don't/can't understand the concept of the MJ industry..

    . :)
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    The Hippy

    The Hippy Well-Known Member

    Driven by pure greed.....that why they can't think straight
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    Farmer.J Well-Known Member

    Counting eggs before the hens started to cluck.
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    HotWaterKarl Well-Known Member

    It's just sad that our taxes have to pay for their utter greed, stupidity and incompetence. Otherwise it would be funny to watch.
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