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SmittyB.. said:

Your set up is very clean so good job bro. I think your doing things right but may want more advise from more experienced growers. I just had a question about what looks like a large sized humidifier in the back ground. Wonder if it is indeed a humidifier and what brand also if it is directly plumbed to a water source? Thanks in advance

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Thanks, appreciate it that is an a/c unit and a dehumidifier. What’s your looking for is more this here https://www.amazon.com/Ideal-Air-Humidifier-Portable-Industrial-Covers/dp/B01DL5DG1K/ref=asc_df_B01DL5DG1K/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167129261901&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=18031919355232260776&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032453&hvtargid=pla-305009876630&psc=1 expensive but worth it honestly I’d use only in a big room better options for tents and smaller rooms

ok i still want to know in this kind of set up the scrog in the second defoliation will it hurt you to take the shoots that havent even made it to the first net? i guess in more detail i am asking will it hurt you if you didnt do the first defol and you want to take what hasnt made it all the way to the first trellis?, when you defoliate as well thank you. it is different for me to run this kind of style vs the sog to me it is new and so far i get the understanding of it and i like it alot just want to be sure is all learned alot and the biggest one is that TIMING is essential and that planning is as well kind of looking for a immediate answer being transparent i am going to defol today

first pic no defol period All different but same strain in rows of three
Second bottoms were cleaned a little and all same strain

You need (OK, maybe not need, but want) to take off what hasn't made it to the first trellis, being careful to ensure that your scissors are clean and sanitised, and that the growth is not likely to make any decent sized buds if it makes it to the trellis (after leaves are cleared).
Also clean out any large, fully-expanded older leaves that are past their best-before date, but not any that are supporting buds, unless they are blocking other bud sites.
That should keep ya busy for a few hours, in that space.

Growoolit said:

You need (OK, maybe not need, but want) to take off what hasn't made it to the first trellis, being careful to ensure that your scissors are clean and sanitised, and that the growth is not likely to make any decent sized buds if it makes it to the trellis (after leaves are cleared).
Also clean out any large, fully-expanded older leaves that are past their best-before date, but not any that are supporting buds, unless they are blocking other bud sites.
That should keep ya busy for a few hours, in that space.

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Only a few hours how I have two of those to do people always ask me why I’m so busy you know I had a family function today we got invited to one and they only see the end product they don’t see all the work that literally goes into this there so blow that I don’t Attend events but they love that smoke though thanks

Growoolit said:

You need (OK, maybe not need, but want) to take off what hasn't made it to the first trellis, being careful to ensure that your scissors are clean and sanitised, and that the growth is not likely to make any decent sized buds if it makes it to the trellis (after leaves are cleared).
Also clean out any large, fully-expanded older leaves that are past their best-before date, but not any that are supporting buds, unless they are blocking other bud sites.
That should keep ya busy for a few hours, in that space.

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hey I don’t know if I can keep posting in here I’m on topic is that cool or not? What’s etiquette? Anyhow I’ll shoot again since I ask for advice and then followed I feel only right to follow w my actions as well as results this is what I did I hope I didn’t do to much I don’t want to sound cocky or arrogant but @Growoolit so many people give advice for how to do this style and though I know there are so many ways what u said I haven’t seen in a book or heard from someone or read in a forum yet it was a bit blunt and simple and as I began taking the leaves it so made sense the older bigger leaves but not bud sit ones I can honestly see how people say this is an art as well it dictates itself if I’m giving my opinion and u get in a zone if layout of plants are same and lighting somewhat same then most the leaves will be similar as the plants are all in here in the same spots yes these are things u all know but me I’m amazed at how I didn’t choose this style before a few things I will do next run to make better use of lights etc but check the pics out and let me know
I also pruned a bit since I didn’t the first week I do think this trellis is way to high for any reg run I just knew theses would stretch but I am def gonna lower next time round

Not bad. They look a little thin to me, but that's your grow style and seed genetics.
Then repeat the thinning process at week 3 to 4 of flower.

When do I flip 12/12 when scroggin ? After I fill the net up ? , Or before and train it through the net during the first rapid growth of flowering ?
Sorry for my ignorance on this

Blaze 77 said:

When do I flip 12/12 when scroggin ? After I fill the net up ? , Or before and train it through the net during the first rapid growth of flowering ?
Sorry for my ignorance on this

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It depends on genetics. Some strains stretch over 200% in flower, and you'll end up with a mess with every square filled before hand without additional tucking upon 12/12. Others will be fine. Sativa vs. Indica mostly, but some Indica often surprise me and fuck me up. If you know the strain and it's growing habits already (and from clone) then you already know. Otherwise, don't make any hard set plans. Lol

Thank you for the info ,
The Strain is Sweet Deep Grapefruit , it's Indica
I do not know how fast she will grow once I flip so I guess I'll play it safe and flip here soon instead of filling up the net first incase it's she tries to get out of hand

Random Q:

For those that do use a rigid screen, how would you take a finished plant out if the same screen is still being used by other plants?

I'd cut immediately above/below the screen with a pair of pruning sheers, it's a big pia job.

Is there a rule of thumb or anything for how high your screen should be above your plant ?
This is my first scrog attempt and I must admit it that their is some intimidation for me , I don't want to mess this up you know
I keep moving my net up then back down , then a few days later I do it again lol ,

Is my net to low or to high , again I'm sorry for my ignorance on the matter

Blaze 77 said:

Is there a rule of thumb or anything for how high your screen should be above your plant ?
This is my first scrog attempt and I must admit it that their is some intimidation for me , I don't want to mess this up you know
I keep moving my net up then back down , then a few days later I do it again lol ,

Is my net to low or to high , again I'm sorry for my ignorance on the matter

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I started mine 24" above the soil and it as too high. I should have started at 12".

Kalebaiden said:

I started mine 24" above the soil and it as too high. I should have started at 12".

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Thank you , I better move my screen back down some lol

I'm only looking for enough space to get my dehum under the canopy height is no good to me I want width, my screen is normally level with the bottom of the side doors +/- 3-4".

Over the last year I’ve been working with a ‘floating scrog’ which I saw first on Instagram.

It’s constructed using PVC tubing and hung via rope ratchets. Works very well and adjustable height. Recently added the secondary trellis above by simply attaching it to the rope above using rubber ties that come with the Botanicare plastic trellis.

An added bonus is hanging the plants to dry from these as well at harvest since I don’t have a dedicated drying room at this time.

xboxwarrior said:

Over the last year I’ve been working with a ‘floating scrog’ which I saw first on Instagram.

It’s constructed using PVC tubing and hung via rope ratchets. Works very well and adjustable height. Recently added the secondary trellis above by simply attaching it to the rope above using rubber ties that come with the Botanicare plastic trellis.

An added bonus is hanging the plants to dry from these as well at harvest since I don’t have a dedicated drying room at this time.

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Nice set up with nice healthy looking plants, why all lower foliage?

Star Dog said:

Nice set up with nice healthy looking plants, why all lower foliage?

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@Star Dog thanks for pointing that out. Here is a picture from a few days later with the lollipopping finished on the lowers. I did wait a bit longer than a should’ve this round lol

@xboxwarrior i also hold off until after the stretch at least, I expect more foliage creates a bigger root system to maintain said foliage, it might also help limit stretch?

Just me or are a lot of these posts more of a SOG (Sea of Green) than a SCROG (Screen Of Green)? I guess just growing the plants into a net you threw over is SCROG now???