Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s

Welcome to a side-by-side dwc grow in 4x4s with clones of four strains: Green Crack, Jack Herer, Original Glue (GG4), and Trainwreck

One 4x4 will have two timber 48sams (equiv of eight hlg288s) with supplemental red hlg35, growbright far red bar, t5 uvb, and CO2.

The other 4x4 will have six hlg96 elites, growbright far red bar, t5 uvb, and CO2.

Cuttings are rooted and will be transplanted to root riots and hydroton in 3” net pots today, and acclimated in a single 4x4 veg tent, running hlg96 Elites and t5 uvb.





After acclimated, two clones of each strain will be transplanted to individual buckets for training as 8-main plants.

When trained, 1 plant of each strain will go into 1 of 2 exactly same outfitted 4x4s, with only difference being the lights.

Plants will go 12:12 at 12”, and CO2 will be started @ 1500ppm in both tents.

After stretch, in addition to white leds and uvb, supplemental reds & far reds will be turned on and controlled for emerson and initiator effects, thru harvest.

I’ll periodically update this thread during veg, and begin daily updates at 12:12.

Cuttings were taken10 days ago and rooted under a single hlg96 elite, running at ~13w, providing ~50ppfd of lights @ ~ 3400K colortemp.

Background grow info for strains (Leafly):

You're the reason I pressed "pay now" for my hlg's. Tuning in

T macc said:

You're the reason I pressed "pay now" for my hlg's. Tuning in

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Gonna blame me already?

Let’s get this grow on!

Beginning Day1:

Here they are, 4 clones of 4 strains:


Transplanted rootings into 3” net pots in rapid rooters and hydroton. 4-gal buckets, each with 2 medium airstones.

Running 18:6, two 96 elites at 30w each, ~48” above tops, ~70 ppfd.

Will give them a few days to acclimate, then start uvb and ppfd ramp...

Team K1W1 black magic also would like some tuition along the way on veg topping bending mainlining too cuz?
Chur chur

Or_Gro said:

Let’s get this grow on!

Beginning Day1:

Here they are, 4 clones of 4 strains:
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Transplanted rootings into 3” net pots in rapid rooters and hydroton. 4-gal buckets, each with 2 medium airstones.

Running 18:6, two 96 elites at 30w each, ~48” above tops, ~70 ppfd.

Will give them a few days to acclimate, then start uvb and ppfd ramp...

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Day 2: They’re liking their new tent & res, bumped ppfd to 107, will start uvb later today.





Will ramp ppfd to ~650 and hold until 12:12.



Flipped 6 mom’s yesterday, too. Gonna see what these strains do before the smackdown gets going.





Plan to ramp to 800-1000 ppfd without CO2, see where they wanna be. Will add rapidled far red pucks, after stretch, for emerson and initiator effects.

How will you be changing the buckets when the plants are larger? Nice and clean setup.

Jgreeny said:

How will you be changing the buckets when the plants are larger? Nice and clean setup.

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Thx

They’re in 3” netpots, which i will pull out and drop in 8-gal ez-stor buckets. I keep a close eye on roots, so they don't get too big.

Roots are about where they need to be for tops to start growing again. After that i’ll cull and transplant.



Doubled intensity to 200 ppfd, today (day 4).

Moms:
Defol’d, lollipopped, cleared out centers; put tallest ones on left, shorters on right; testing higher wattage on right light to get same ppfd on shorter plant tops as on taller plant tops...currently ~700 ppfd, except tallest plant, front left trainwreck (~1000)...if doesn't work, will add pedestals...



Lookin a little ragged, they had a tough morning at the beauty parlor....

Or_Gro said:

Thx

They’re in 3” netpots, which i will pull out and drop in 8-gal ez-stor buckets. I keep a close eye on roots, so they don't get too big.

Roots are about where they need to be for tops to start growing again. After that i’ll cull and transplant.

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Doubled intensity to 200 ppfd, today (day 4).

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Day 6: Tips are starting to grow; installed two 24” t5 arcadia uvb reptile lights @24” height, laying down 40-50 uw/cm sq for 15 min at begin & end of day, will ramp exposure time as plants tolerate.

Or_Gro said:

Moms:
Defol’d, lollipopped, cleared out centers; put tallest ones on left, shorters on right; testing higher wattage on right light to get same ppfd on shorter plant tops as on taller plant tops...currently ~700 ppfd, except tallest plant, front left trainwreck (~1000)...if doesn't work, will add pedestals...

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Lookin a little ragged, they had a tough morning at the beauty parlor....

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Moms perkin up:

killer\ that trainwreck gonna need its own tent, she looks like a gem

which tent has the qb96's

SMT69 said:

killer\ that trainwreck gonna need its own tent, she looks like a gem

which tent has the qb96's

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Yeah it will be big...and those 6 are in a 3x3...lol...shoulda taken your cue and cut them all back to 4 mains each (like tall trainwreck), maybe still will...whaddaya think?

Both tents are currently running 2 96s, clones also have uvb.

Just gotta say again, those are some fukin beautiful plants over on your thread right now. Break out the 2L comparison bottle!!!

How much dry wt you think those mains will average?

Or_Gro said:

Yeah it will be big...and those 6 are in a 3x3...lol...shoulda taken your cue and cut them all back to 4 mains each (like tall trainwreck), maybe still will...whaddaya think?

Both tents are currently running 2 96s, clones also have uvb.

Just gotta say again, those are some fukin beautiful plants over on your thread right now. Break out the 2L comparison bottle!!!

How much dry wt you think those mains will average?

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I’ll be using these girls to make this:

Oh man that looks so chewy/looks like you've got it down!

So both tents are running 96's, excellent, UV only in one or both tents? As for the manifolding, no need to advise you- you'll have um cut back just fine, last grow was amazing

SMT69 said:

Oh man that looks so chewy/looks like you've got it down!

So both tents are running 96's, excellent, UV only in one or both tents? As for the manifolding, no need to advise you- you'll have um cut back just fine, last grow was amazing

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Access to a great tool, sure helps:



The mom’s are a mercy grow, i just couldn’t cull them....so, as a freebie, i can afford to play...none of them are manifolded, just pseudo-uncle ben’s....

I said fuck it, they’re now all 4-6 mainers as of 5 mins ago...cuz of you!

Lol



No uvb, other supplementals, or co2 in this tent, just wanna see what 96s can do on their own....will likely add a third 96 as i ramp to 1000ppfd.

nice coffee maker

hash press? Omg I’m getting old haha, anyways the girls look much happier now good move.