samsterdam22
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Trying to find out if nanners/bananas are always stress induced. They seem to take time to form and never show before 4 weeks in anything ive read. I've read they are from genetics and stress. Most people think a hermi is a monoecious plant but I know a hermi has both sex on the same flower and not just the same plant. I also know they will try to self pollinate if left to long because it wants to secure its future. To much stress of any kind would make since to me to self pollinate because its worried it may die and again is trying to secure its future. So I know they can come from light leaks and maybe all stress but not about genetics. From what I read below it is from genetics with this guys experiance but dont know for sure. PLEASE ONLY RESPOND IF HAD THE EXPERIENCE with nanners/bananas. It would be nice to here from the people with very proper rooms talk about there experience so stress would not be to much of an issue but all hands on experience is welcome. Trying to get to the bottom of this. 
1. Cannabis normally has imperfect flowers, with staminate "male" and pistillate "female" flowers occurring on separate plants.[10] It is not unusual, however, for individual plants to bear both male and female flowers.[11] Although monoecious plants are often referred to as "hermaphrodites," true hermaphrodites (which are less common) bear staminate and pistillate structures on individual flowers, whereas monoecious plants bear male and female flowers at different locations on the same plant. Male flowers are normally borne on loose panicles, and female flowers are borne on racemes.[12] "At a very early period the Chinese recognized the Cannabis plant as dioecious,"[13] and the (ca. 3rd century BCE) Erya dictionary defined xi 枲 "male cannabis" and fu 莩 (or ju 苴) "female cannabis".[14]
Well thats odd according to that the "late nanners" which actually grow out of tips of buds make a plant a TRUE hermie whereas the ones that grow seperate male and female sex organs on different parts of the plant are called monoecious, which the definaition sounds pretty hermie to me anyway.
But all this time everyone I have talked to and everything I have read has said the those late banana looking structures forming new green growth out the end of a nearly mature bud are due to stress where this description says the are the true hermies.
The more I research the more confusing this situation becomes. I would say kill all the clones from that plant anyway because they have the potential to hermie late, stressed or unstressed, just like their mother.
Just a followup note. After much trial I have come to the conclusion that the late hermies are genetic and have nothing to do with stress in the plant. I have taken a particular phenotype of feminized blue mystic and it hermies at the exact same time in every set of clones, even clones of clones. None of the plants, including the mother had any stress at all. None of the plants ever showed signs of being a monoecious plant, actual male stamens, but late in the fifth week of flowering small banana like structures start forming on the buds of the main cola. All of the plants are given the exact same nutrients and light schedule and only that particular phenotype turns hermied so I know that is is not some hidden stress causing it.
Up until this point, everything that I have ever known or read about growing marijuana has associated the late forming male flowers (bananas) with stress rather than genetics, but if that was the case then all the plants would hermie and not just that phenotype.
1. Cannabis normally has imperfect flowers, with staminate "male" and pistillate "female" flowers occurring on separate plants.[10] It is not unusual, however, for individual plants to bear both male and female flowers.[11] Although monoecious plants are often referred to as "hermaphrodites," true hermaphrodites (which are less common) bear staminate and pistillate structures on individual flowers, whereas monoecious plants bear male and female flowers at different locations on the same plant. Male flowers are normally borne on loose panicles, and female flowers are borne on racemes.[12] "At a very early period the Chinese recognized the Cannabis plant as dioecious,"[13] and the (ca. 3rd century BCE) Erya dictionary defined xi 枲 "male cannabis" and fu 莩 (or ju 苴) "female cannabis".[14]
Well thats odd according to that the "late nanners" which actually grow out of tips of buds make a plant a TRUE hermie whereas the ones that grow seperate male and female sex organs on different parts of the plant are called monoecious, which the definaition sounds pretty hermie to me anyway.
But all this time everyone I have talked to and everything I have read has said the those late banana looking structures forming new green growth out the end of a nearly mature bud are due to stress where this description says the are the true hermies.
The more I research the more confusing this situation becomes. I would say kill all the clones from that plant anyway because they have the potential to hermie late, stressed or unstressed, just like their mother.
Just a followup note. After much trial I have come to the conclusion that the late hermies are genetic and have nothing to do with stress in the plant. I have taken a particular phenotype of feminized blue mystic and it hermies at the exact same time in every set of clones, even clones of clones. None of the plants, including the mother had any stress at all. None of the plants ever showed signs of being a monoecious plant, actual male stamens, but late in the fifth week of flowering small banana like structures start forming on the buds of the main cola. All of the plants are given the exact same nutrients and light schedule and only that particular phenotype turns hermied so I know that is is not some hidden stress causing it.
Up until this point, everything that I have ever known or read about growing marijuana has associated the late forming male flowers (bananas) with stress rather than genetics, but if that was the case then all the plants would hermie and not just that phenotype.
. I know hermies come from poor breading but do they come in the from of bananas and not just a actual double sexed plant form. I should of made it more clear that the bold writing in my post was from another post that I found. Im trying to find out if this is more true or false with other peoples experience (If multiple generations and clones all banana at the same time and it can in fact just be genetics with no stress)? I've read a lot of people say that nanners are only from stress and its the plants last effort to reproduce, are they only from stress?. If this is true then this post makes no since to have plants nanner/banana at the same time with no stress that early in the cycle. I know a plant can produce seed if it feels its at the end of it cycle but is this from nanner/bananas or do they just fill up with some seeds some other way. I know a plant can banana/nanner, then those pop and pollinate itself and whatever else and then they produce seeds. Is that the only way. I guess the bottom line Im trying to find out is can a plant only nanner/banana from genetics. Im so quick to blame the grower.