FISA Abuse troll is a scam.

hanimmal

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The Republicans are pushing on this and I think @21:05 Graham actually nails it.

"And I say, at least on our side. The FISA system is very much in jeopardy." And he is right, everything Trump and the Republicans have done has shaken our faith in the law. I know I am afraid of how little the law was able to due thanks to Barr's apparent data-mining loophole trolling of our justice system.

He is absolutely right. The reports show that the 3rd Carter Page FISA applications were in June 2017, and that is firmly under Trump's DoJ. The Republican party under Trump is at fault for allowing Trump to use the DoJ as his political propaganda wing after he fired Comey.

But that is just noise Graham is making, eventually this gets back to he is right, we do need to find out how things were changed when Trump took office, but that will only happen when the IG rules are changed and the lawyers in the executive branch can be questioned.

They keep pushing Carter Page, when the reality is that Papodopalous is the one that exposed their working with the Russian's back in April 2016.
 
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hanimmal

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Our own intelligence also has leaked texts saying they need to do something to stop trump... Also, Love when dems put the intel. and gov agency on a pedestal but they wont look at FBI stats on the number of unarmed black people killed by cops (of any color)

What about all the other intelligence that goes in trumps favor? Or against the dems? Or for biden? You're playing this appeal to authority and there is already plenty of evidence of our own agencies in dc playing politics with their power... So... got to dig a little deeper than your main news media to see it but theres plenty of real leaked evidence from our agencies, Way more showing corrupt collusion on the side of the dems...

Also, their recent threat of packing the courts just show they dont care for the country, they'll do anything they can, including destroying america to hold onto their power. They went all in on hillary, and she got whooped... They've been clinging to their power ever since..


Does anyone remember when occupy wall street was going on and the 99% were united against the 1%....? Anybody? Remember how the media changed that narrative to be racism instead.... Yeah what happened to that occupy movement anyone know? Hmm... Interesting... People dont see they're puppets themselves, they have no idea they even havestrings that are being pulled..
You really shouldn't just pretend that people have not discussed those things in this forum since you seem painfully unaware of how much has been covered on this website. Because it has been attacked by the same right wing trolls that are pushing those narratives (from right and left) for years.

You are incorrect in basically everything that you have said above.

If the FBI really wanted to hurt Trump, they could have simply went public about Trump's working with the Russian military to help their attack on our citizens. But they kept it quiet.


fbi.gov.... look it up yourself, no one brought fox news into this except you...
Except Barr has been lying to us to save Dear Leader's ass, after Trump used up his other trolls like Giuliani's mark Whittaker.

Unhinged Evidence

Exhibit A:






Yes bleach bit.... the software/deletion/cleaning tool.... You know... That thing hillarys people TRIED to use to destroy evidence.... You know, Paul Combetta who posted on reddit asking for advice on how to change the email address on sent emails... and how he worked for hillary.... Yeah... That thing... Bleach bit...




Put your emotions to the side and just look at the evidence.... forget anyones political affiliations for one minute and just look at integrity of sources...
Check the archive of the reddit posts for this guy looking to destroy it.... Then giving up, and using bleachbit... Then look at the leaks of all this... and then MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION.... No ones telling you to listen to me, just realize your a puppet and need to start looking into things yourself, because you guys are just regurgitating all the same talking points that you hear from all the other sheep out there on fb and twitter...
How would you get rid of old phones/computers that may have sensitive information on them? It doesn't make it nefarious.
 

dunphy

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You really shouldn't just pretend that people have not discussed those things in this forum since you seem painfully unaware of how much has been covered on this website. Because it has been attacked by the same right wing trolls that are pushing those narratives (from right and left) for years.

You are incorrect in basically everything that you have said above.

If the FBI really wanted to hurt Trump, they could have simply went public about Trump's working with the Russian military to help their attack on our citizens. But they kept it quiet.




Except Barr has been lying to us to save Dear Leader's ass, after Trump used up his other trolls like Giuliani's mark Whittaker.



How would you get rid of old phones/computers that may have sensitive information on them? It doesn't make it nefarious.
Talking about dems... not the site... first off...


Why dont you post the evidence on trumps working with rus mil?

Barr? Um... sure, okay, whatever your personal opinion on him is...

As for the old phones and computers? Well... those are gov. documents.... They are not for hillary to hide from the gov and american people... They are not for her to be sending and receiving classified information on, and they sure as shit aren't supposed to be decided on by hillarys' people what information should stay or go....
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Answered the above post here.


It looks like Trump is upset that Barr can't just lock up his perceived political enemies.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-voting-fraud-and-irregularities-elections-archive-a5d340d781afa64288ffaaf5ea9abebb
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is increasingly at odds with Attorney General William Barr over the status of the Justice Department’s investigation into the origin of the Russia probe, with the president increasingly critical about a lack of arrests and Barr frustrated by Trump’s public pronouncements about the case, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump and his allies had high hopes for the investigation led by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, betting it would expose what they see as wrongdoing when the FBI opened a case into whether the Trump campaign was coordinating with Russia to sway the 2016 election. Trump has also pushed to tie prominent Obama administration officials to that effort as part of his campaign against Joe Biden, who was serving as vice president at the time.

But a year and a half into the investigation, and with less than one month until Election Day, there has been only one criminal case: a former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering a government email about a former Trump campaign adviser who was a target of secret FBI surveillance.

With time running out for pre-election action on the case, Trump is increasingly airing his dissatisfaction in tweets and television appearances. Barr, meanwhile, has privately expressed frustration over the public comments, according to a person familiar with his thinking. It’s not dissimilar to a situation earlier this year, when Trump complained publicly that he believed ally Roger Stone was getting a raw deal in his prosecution, even as Barr had already moved to amend a sentencing position of the prosecutors in the case.

Despite Trump’s unhappiness, there’s no indication Barr’s job is at risk in the final weeks of the campaign. Still, the tensions between Trump and the attorney general over the fate of the probe underscore the extent to which the president is aggressively trying to use all of the levers of his power to gain ground in an election that has been moving away from him.

This account is based on interviews with six people who have direct knowledge of Trump and Barr’s relationship. They were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Trump is also said to blame Barr for comments from FBI Director Chris Wray on election fraud and mail-in voting that don’t jibe with the president’s alarmist rhetoric. Wray has said there has not historically been any kind of mass voter fraud, whether through the mail or otherwise, a message at odds with Trump and Barr’s repeated efforts to sound the alarms about a process they claim is especially vulnerable to abuse.

Still, much of the uptick in tensions between Trump and Barr centers on the Justice Department’s handling of the Durham probe. A senior administration official said Trump feels like he’s given Barr wide latitude to advance the investigation, including declassifying documents related to Russia. In the absence of blockbuster findings, Trump is now moving to make documents public himself with his new acting head of intelligence.

On Thursday morning, Trump did not hide his displeasure in an interview on Fox News Business.

“Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes — the greatest political crime in the history of our country — then we’ll get little satisfaction, unless I win,” he said. “Because I won’t forget it. But these people should be indicted. These are people who spied on my campaign. And we have everything. And I say, Bill, we’ve got plenty, you don’t need anymore. We’ve got so much.”

The comment followed an earlier barrage of presidential social media posts, including one in which Trump retweeted a doctored image of Barr superimposed with the late “Saturday Night Live” actor Chris Farley in character as a motivational speaker yelling at him. The caption: “for the love of God ARREST SOMEBODY.”

The Justice Department declined to comment on the matter. The White House did not immediately comment.

Since Durham’s appointment, he has cast a broad net in interviewing former government officials, including ex-CIA Director John Brennan. It is unclear when Durham plans to submit his report or how damning any of his final conclusions might be.

Even the outlines of the case involving FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who pleaded guilty in the Durham probe, were already known before he was charged. And the case against him didn’t allege any broader FBI conspiracy to go after Trump.

Barr has privately expressed frustration over the president’s public pronouncements on the Durham investigation. Though Barr is broadly in agreement with Trump on the need to investigate the origins of the Russia probe, he’s often bemoaned Trump’s lack of understanding about the intricacies of the legal system and the steps that need to be taken to complete an investigation.

A friend of Barr’s said there has been obvious “tension” between the president and the attorney general, and while Barr himself believes deeply in the importance of the Durham investigation and in the president’s authority to exercise control over federal agencies, he will not tolerate interference in specific investigations.

The friend said the Justice Department officials were eager for Durham’s work to be completed while Trump is still in office for fear the investigation would be shuttered in a possible Biden administration.

Trump aides had banked on the Durham probe being finished before 2020 election to lend credibility to Trump’s claims that his own investigative agencies were working against him. A report from the Justice Department’s inspector general in December knocked down multiple lines of attack against the Russia investigation, finding that it was properly opened and that law enforcement leaders were not motivated by political bias. But Barr has said he and Durham disagreed with the inspector general over whether the FBI had enough information to open a full investigation and, in particular, to use surveillance on a former Trump campaign aide.

Despite being close allies on a range of issues, tensions have flared between Trump and Barr at other points, including earlier this year when Trump was tweeting about Stone’s case. Barr later reversed a recommendation from prosecutors that Stone be sentenced to 7 to 9 years in prison, and critics argued he was doing Trump’s bidding.

Barr said in an interview with ABC News that the president’s tweets were making it “impossible” to do his job and told those close to him he was considering resigning. The two eventually patched things up.

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Seeing as though all the falsifying of documents came under Trump's minion's tenure and not Comey's, Trump better be careful what he wishes for.
 

dunphy

Well-Known Member
Answered the above post here.


It looks like Trump is upset that Barr can't just lock up his perceived political enemies.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-voting-fraud-and-irregularities-elections-archive-a5d340d781afa64288ffaaf5ea9abebb
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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is increasingly at odds with Attorney General William Barr over the status of the Justice Department’s investigation into the origin of the Russia probe, with the president increasingly critical about a lack of arrests and Barr frustrated by Trump’s public pronouncements about the case, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump and his allies had high hopes for the investigation led by Connecticut U.S. Attorney John Durham, betting it would expose what they see as wrongdoing when the FBI opened a case into whether the Trump campaign was coordinating with Russia to sway the 2016 election. Trump has also pushed to tie prominent Obama administration officials to that effort as part of his campaign against Joe Biden, who was serving as vice president at the time.

But a year and a half into the investigation, and with less than one month until Election Day, there has been only one criminal case: a former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty to altering a government email about a former Trump campaign adviser who was a target of secret FBI surveillance.

With time running out for pre-election action on the case, Trump is increasingly airing his dissatisfaction in tweets and television appearances. Barr, meanwhile, has privately expressed frustration over the public comments, according to a person familiar with his thinking. It’s not dissimilar to a situation earlier this year, when Trump complained publicly that he believed ally Roger Stone was getting a raw deal in his prosecution, even as Barr had already moved to amend a sentencing position of the prosecutors in the case.

Despite Trump’s unhappiness, there’s no indication Barr’s job is at risk in the final weeks of the campaign. Still, the tensions between Trump and the attorney general over the fate of the probe underscore the extent to which the president is aggressively trying to use all of the levers of his power to gain ground in an election that has been moving away from him.

This account is based on interviews with six people who have direct knowledge of Trump and Barr’s relationship. They were not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Trump is also said to blame Barr for comments from FBI Director Chris Wray on election fraud and mail-in voting that don’t jibe with the president’s alarmist rhetoric. Wray has said there has not historically been any kind of mass voter fraud, whether through the mail or otherwise, a message at odds with Trump and Barr’s repeated efforts to sound the alarms about a process they claim is especially vulnerable to abuse.

Still, much of the uptick in tensions between Trump and Barr centers on the Justice Department’s handling of the Durham probe. A senior administration official said Trump feels like he’s given Barr wide latitude to advance the investigation, including declassifying documents related to Russia. In the absence of blockbuster findings, Trump is now moving to make documents public himself with his new acting head of intelligence.

On Thursday morning, Trump did not hide his displeasure in an interview on Fox News Business.

“Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes — the greatest political crime in the history of our country — then we’ll get little satisfaction, unless I win,” he said. “Because I won’t forget it. But these people should be indicted. These are people who spied on my campaign. And we have everything. And I say, Bill, we’ve got plenty, you don’t need anymore. We’ve got so much.”

The comment followed an earlier barrage of presidential social media posts, including one in which Trump retweeted a doctored image of Barr superimposed with the late “Saturday Night Live” actor Chris Farley in character as a motivational speaker yelling at him. The caption: “for the love of God ARREST SOMEBODY.”

The Justice Department declined to comment on the matter. The White House did not immediately comment.

Since Durham’s appointment, he has cast a broad net in interviewing former government officials, including ex-CIA Director John Brennan. It is unclear when Durham plans to submit his report or how damning any of his final conclusions might be.

Even the outlines of the case involving FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who pleaded guilty in the Durham probe, were already known before he was charged. And the case against him didn’t allege any broader FBI conspiracy to go after Trump.

Barr has privately expressed frustration over the president’s public pronouncements on the Durham investigation. Though Barr is broadly in agreement with Trump on the need to investigate the origins of the Russia probe, he’s often bemoaned Trump’s lack of understanding about the intricacies of the legal system and the steps that need to be taken to complete an investigation.

A friend of Barr’s said there has been obvious “tension” between the president and the attorney general, and while Barr himself believes deeply in the importance of the Durham investigation and in the president’s authority to exercise control over federal agencies, he will not tolerate interference in specific investigations.

The friend said the Justice Department officials were eager for Durham’s work to be completed while Trump is still in office for fear the investigation would be shuttered in a possible Biden administration.

Trump aides had banked on the Durham probe being finished before 2020 election to lend credibility to Trump’s claims that his own investigative agencies were working against him. A report from the Justice Department’s inspector general in December knocked down multiple lines of attack against the Russia investigation, finding that it was properly opened and that law enforcement leaders were not motivated by political bias. But Barr has said he and Durham disagreed with the inspector general over whether the FBI had enough information to open a full investigation and, in particular, to use surveillance on a former Trump campaign aide.

Despite being close allies on a range of issues, tensions have flared between Trump and Barr at other points, including earlier this year when Trump was tweeting about Stone’s case. Barr later reversed a recommendation from prosecutors that Stone be sentenced to 7 to 9 years in prison, and critics argued he was doing Trump’s bidding.

Barr said in an interview with ABC News that the president’s tweets were making it “impossible” to do his job and told those close to him he was considering resigning. The two eventually patched things up.

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Seeing as though all the falsifying of documents came under Trump's minion's tenure and not Comey's, Trump better be careful what he wishes for.
Lmao... , according to people familiar with the matter.... people familiar with his thinking....


So... these anon people have some opinions and they think they know what barr is thinking because they're "familiar with his thinking"


This may trigger some repubs but not some independent who researches themselves..... When you have some concrete quote from barr... or video or something other than anonymous sources being pushed by AP then maybe it will mean something.... But to someone who doesnt care about either team just the field their playing on?.... Well.. Sorry, this reeks the same as any bs opinion piece from fox or cnn...

Put your emotions to the side and find something concrete... Shouldnt be hard since apparently everything he does is evil and everyone associated with him...
 

hanimmal

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Lmao... , according to people familiar with the matter.... people familiar with his thinking....


So... these anon people have some opinions and they think they know what barr is thinking because they're "familiar with his thinking"


This may trigger some repubs but not some independent who researches themselves..... When you have some concrete quote from barr... or video or something other than anonymous sources being pushed by AP then maybe it will mean something.... But to someone who doesnt care about either team just the field their playing on?.... Well.. Sorry, this reeks the same as any bs opinion piece from fox or cnn...

Put your emotions to the side and find something concrete... Shouldnt be hard since apparently everything he does is evil and everyone associated with him...
You really think that this investigation is the one that matters? Because I do not. I have shown throughout this thread the very real report and hearings that have shown how this investigation series by Barr to attack Trump's enemies in the press (because they get laughed out of grand jury when they tried to go after the agents on Crossfire Hurricane investigation).

This thread is a direct response to the FISA trolls pushing Barr and Trump's scam. I am not trying to trigger anyone.

I am not sure why you are taking such a defensive stance though, is it just reflexive to you?
 

hanimmal

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-unmasking-review-no-charges/2020/10/13/0f63fd2e-0d67-11eb-8074-0e943a91bf08_story.html
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The federal prosecutor appointed by Attorney General William P. Barr to review whether Obama-era officials improperly requested the identities of individuals whose names were redacted in intelligence documents has completed his work without finding any substantive wrongdoing, according to people familiar with the matter.

The revelation that U.S. Attorney John Bash, who left the department last week, had concluded his review without criminal charges or any public report will rankle President Trump at a moment when he is particularly upset at the Justice Department. The department has so far declined to release the results of Bash’s work, though people familiar with his findings say they would likely disappoint conservatives who have tried to paint the “unmasking” of names — a common practice in government to help understand classified documents — as a political conspiracy.

The president in recent days has pressed federal law enforcement to move against his political adversaries and complained that a different prosecutor tapped by Barr to investigate the FBI’s 2016 investigation of his campaign will not be issuing any public findings before the election.

Legal analysts feared Bash’s review was yet another attempt by Trump’s Justice Department to target political opponents of the president.
Even if it ultimately produced no results of consequence, legal analysts said, it allowed Trump and other conservatives to say Obama-era officials were under scrutiny, as long as the case stayed active.

The department — both under Barr and Trump’s previous attorney general, Jeff Sessions — has repeatedly turned to U.S. Attorneys across the country to investigate matters of Republican concern, distressing current and former Justice Department officials, who fear department leaders are repeatedly caving to Trump’s pressure to benefit his allies and target those he perceives as political enemies.

Kerri Kupec, the Justice Department’s top spokeswoman, had first revealed Bash’s review in May, after Republican senators made public a declassified list of U.S. officials, including former vice president Joe Biden, who made requests that would ultimately reveal the name of Trump adviser Michael Flynn in intelligence documents in late 2016 and early 2017.


In an appearance on Fox News that month, Kupec told host Sean Hannity that Barr had tapped Bash, the top federal prosecutor in San Antonio, to review Obama-era officials’ unmasking requests. She said that though the practice “inherently isn’t wrong,” the frequency with which requests were made or the motive for making them could be “problematic.”

How a Flynn theory became central to the Trump reelection campaign

Though “unmasking” is common and appropriate because it allows government officials to better understand a document they are reading, Trump and others suggested the list of requests that ultimately revealed Flynn’s name showed wrongdoing.

Bash’s team was focused not just on unmasking, but also whether Obama-era officials provided information to reporters, according to people familiar with the probe. But the findings ultimately turned over to Barr fell short of what Trump and others might have hoped, and the attorney general’s office elected not to release them publicly, according to the people familiar with the matter, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive investigation. The Washington Post was unable to review the full results of what Bash found.

Bash announced last week that he was leaving the department — surprising many in the Justice Department because it came so close to the election — though he made no mention of the unmasking review. He said in a statement that he had informed the attorney general of the decision a month earlier and had “accepted an offer for a position in the private sector.” He gave formal resignation letters to the president and the attorney general on October 5, and his last day was Friday.

Before being nominated as the U.S. Attorney, Bash worked in the Solicitor General’s Office and as an associate counsel to Trump. Bash thanked Trump and others in the statement, and Barr offered his “gratitude” for Bash’s service.

“I appreciate his service to our nation and to the Justice Department, and I wish him the very best,” Barr said.

Asked Tuesday if Bash had quit over anything related to unmasking, Kupec said, “No, that was not my understanding.” At the time Bash’s departure was announced, she had said of the unmasking review, “Without commenting on any specific investigation, any matters that John Bash was overseeing will be assumed by Gregg Sofer,” who was tapped to replace Bash as the U.S. Attorney. She declined this week to comment specifically on the status of the unmasking investigation.

Bash declined to comment. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in San Antonio said he could not immediately comment.

Q&A: What is ‘unmasking,’ who does it and why

It was not immediately clear why the department was holding back Bash’s findings. Officials do not generally discuss investigations that have been closed without criminal charges — though Bash’s case is unusual because it was announced publicly by the department spokeswoman. Justice Department policies and tradition, too, call for prosecutors not to take public steps in cases close to an election that might affect the results.

Before Bash’s appointment, Kupec had said that a different federal prosecutor, John Durham in Connecticut, also had been looking at unmasking as part of his broader investigation into the FBI’s 2016 probe of whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the election. It was not clear how Durham’s and Bash’s work intersected.

Barr recently told some Republican lawmakers that no report of Durham’s investigation would be released before the November election, though unlike Bash’s review, Durham’s work seems to be ongoing, people familiar with the matter said. Trump has in recent days called the delay in the Durham case “a disgrace,” and asserted that his 2016 Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, should be jailed. He was previously critical of another prosecutor specially tapped by then-Attorney General Sessions to investigate matters related to Clinton, but whose case ended with no public report or allegations of wrongdoing.

Barr had said previously he would not hold back Durham’s findings because of concerns about any impact on the election, as investigators were not focused on political candidates.

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“I’m talking with 50-year sentences,” Trump said in an interview with Fox Business Network.

Kupec soon appeared on Fox News and announced Bash’s inquiry. His work came on top of that of Durham and U.S. Attorney Jeff Jensen in St. Louis, who had been tapped specially to review the Flynn case and ultimately advised that the Justice Department should drop it.

The end of Bash’s case is similar to that of another review conducted by John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah who was asked in November 2017 by Sessions to look into concerns raised by Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state. The Washington Post reported in January that the inquiry of had effectively ended with no tangible results. In the months that followed, Trump bemoaned the state of the inquiry on Twitter, asserting that Huber “did absolutely NOTHING.”

“He was a garbage disposal unit for important documents & then, tap, tap, tap, just drag it along & run out of time,” Trump wrote.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member

Biden:


Meant to put this in the Trump has Covid thread, but it really fits in any thread about Trump losing his mind I guess.
 
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hanimmal

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They were busy covering up uncorroborated fisa warrants, I'll grant you that.
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It wasn't until June 2017 (Trump's administration post Comey-firing) that the FISA nonsense began.


What exactly is a 'quantum of evidence'? It sounds like a lot that has nothing to do with the Steele report that they mostly ignored and didn't get until well after the investigation started.

It is just sad that after all Trump's reports show that his lies are just that and the investigations were on the up and up, well at least until his administration took over, that his troll army is still out trying to sell this turd.
 

hanimmal

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Scammers going to scam I guess. Graham is still grinding away Trump's deflection from his illegally working with the Russian military to steal the 2016 election by attacking over 128 million Americans 9 billion times.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
(Sorry this post is pretty random, I keep getting distracted and want to look at this later.)

In todays hearing with MaCabe, Graham full circled the entire FISA scam finally.

Im going to try to get this down so I remember it.

Clinton hires "Fusion GSP" who have Steele on retainer to investigate Trump for op-ed research. I believe Fusion GPS was originally working for a conservative rag 'Washington examiner (or something like that' to do op-ed on Trump for Cruz.

Graham is saying that because Clinton hired the company whose employee ended up on a FISA report for Carter Page as 'evidence against him', that somehow that means that Clinton was opening a investigation on Trump to say Trump was working with the Russians.

They continue to ignore everything before that because they are saying that it shouldn't matter that Trump committed a crime, basically trying the case in the public that Trump will be using on trial.

Crazy.

But I forget which Democratic senator just owned the narrative. Trump is doing that in full public with trying to paint Biden as dirty in Ukraine and China.

Moreover, it really doesn't matter, because it is a bullshit narrative that selectively edits together a couple events that may well be part of a scam to cast doubt because the Russians knew Trump exposed them back in July 27 2016 (Trump Jr met with the Russians on June 9th 2016, and Papodopalous had been shown to have had prior knowledge of the attack in I believe was April 2016).https://www.rollitup.org/t/ap-news-trump-campaigns-russia-contacts-grave-threat-senate-says.1028063/post-15740009


The Bi-Partisan Senate Report shows that the evidence from Steele had nothing to do with the investigation.
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I keep getting distracted by all the other crazy that is going on, but feel it is important enough to post some bs real quick so I can look at it later.

Basically this is the same scam that the Republicans are trying to do as what Trump did in 2016 with the help of the Russian military via Wikileaks and Roger Stone.



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Stone knew about the Access hollywood tape before it dropped as well as the emails. Both got dumped the same day that Obama announce to the world that our democracy was under attack.

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McCabe answers this too, you don't tip off people you think might be dirty.


So Trump spills the beans on July 27th 2016, and if nothing else Russia knows they need to work to create some propaganda to hide their hand by painting Clinton with the scam that Graham is saying 'may be true, may not be, but it might'.

If Comey found out after the Wikileaks dump that coincided with the Access Hollywood tape, both which buried the announcement of the Russian attack on our democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/october-surprise-clinton-emails-fbi-/2020/09/17/518ef8a2-f2dc-11ea-b796-2dd09962649c_story.html
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October 21st,

Comey was worried about a leak in SDNY via Giuliani.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/fisa-abuse-troll-is-a-scam.1000451/post-15199044

And the day before Comey decides to go public about Wiener's laptop a Infowars story about how the DNC was out to get Manafort. This stinks of what Trump is trying to get scammed through today to try to steal this election back in 2016 and is just doing the same storyline.

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The day after information gets leaked to "Infowars" and a propaganda story pushed by the Russian military is published, Comey sends the letter about the Clinton emails being found on Weiner's laptop.

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I really think Comey was aware that exactly what we are witnessing by the Republicans was going to be done in 2016 to try to get Clinton impeached and set them up for 2020 run attacking Clinton for 4 years.

But it all flipped when Trump won the election and here we are 4 years later under attack by the Russian military the entire time because Trump has left us all vulnerable.
 

rkymtnman

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(Sorry this post is pretty random, I keep getting distracted and want to look at this later.)

In todays hearing with MaCabe, Graham full circled the entire FISA scam finally.

Im going to try to get this down so I remember it.

Clinton hires "Fusion GSP" who have Steele on retainer to investigate Trump for op-ed research. I believe Fusion GPS was originally working for a conservative rag 'Washington examiner (or something like that' to do op-ed on Trump for Cruz.

Graham is saying that because Clinton hired the company whose employee ended up on a FISA report for Carter Page as 'evidence against him', that somehow that means that Clinton was opening a investigation on Trump to say Trump was working with the Russians.

They continue to ignore everything before that because they are saying that it shouldn't matter that Trump committed a crime, basically trying the case in the public that Trump will be using on trial.

Crazy.

But I forget which Democratic senator just owned the narrative. Trump is doing that in full public with trying to paint Biden as dirty in Ukraine and China.

Moreover, it really doesn't matter, because it is a bullshit narrative that selectively edits together a couple events that may well be part of a scam to cast doubt because the Russians knew Trump exposed them back in July 27 2016 (Trump Jr met with the Russians on June 9th 2016, and Papodopalous had been shown to have had prior knowledge of the attack in I believe was April 2016).https://www.rollitup.org/t/ap-news-trump-campaigns-russia-contacts-grave-threat-senate-says.1028063/post-15740009


The Bi-Partisan Senate Report shows that the evidence from Steele had nothing to do with the investigation.
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I keep getting distracted by all the other crazy that is going on, but feel it is important enough to post some bs real quick so I can look at it later.

Basically this is the same scam that the Republicans are trying to do as what Trump did in 2016 with the help of the Russian military via Wikileaks and Roger Stone.
Please put me in the Octagon for one 3 minute round with Ted Cruz.
 

hanimmal

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Graham is such a troll.


Yeah the person who should be held accountable for Crossfire Hurricane investigation is Donald Trump.

There is 'no there there' feels suspicious, because there was there there.

But then after he says something completely true, he immediately goes right into the troll trying to paint it as a Clinton scandal. It is amazing how this guy is going to slither out of this.
 

rkymtnman

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Graham is such a troll.


Yeah the person who should be held accountable for Crossfire Hurricane investigation is Donald Trump.

There is 'no there there' feels suspicious, because there was there there.

But then after he says something completely true, he immediately goes right into the troll trying to paint it as a Clinton scandal. It is amazing how this guy is going to slither out of this.
did you see Gowdy doing the play by play on FOX? that was even more sickening to listen too.

i just hope they are all tied into money from Russia via the NRA.
 

hanimmal

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You can't make this stuff up.

Im looking for information about the dude that was all worked up about Weiner's laptop (link above the Washington post story above is about him, now I am curious if he wrote the book)
I was studying to be a college professor or a minister. Then 9/11 happened...

First thing I find is a video of him:

Im looking back with the understanding of today's Qanon, watching a guy describe the narrative of Qanon, that just happened to be the guy who was investigating the Weiner laptop that also the same scam Trump just tried.

What do you want to guess the odds are that his undergrad in religion was from a evangelical university (like Liberty University)?


did you see Gowdy doing the play by play on FOX? that was even more sickening to listen too.

i just hope they are all tied into money from Russia via the NRA.
It's 50/50 I think they are all in on the scam, but as married to Trump as Graham is, he hasn't actually ever done anything but slowly paint Trump in a corner bit by bit in these hearings. And then he cries that it is the Democrats that acted illegally, even through it doesn't make any sense, because Trump told them he didn't do it and they believe him.

I don't think we will ever know about many of the senators real involvement on how much they have been using the same attacks on their 'base' that the Russians hijacked with their trolling operation and turned into a cult for Trump.

But yeah Gowdy is one that I think is screwed.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/trey-gowdy-doing-his-best-to-become-trumps-newest-minion.998913/
 
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hanimmal

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Decided to look at a regal sounding website "Law Enforcement Today" that had a result for a college for the guy who wanted to whistle blow Weiner's laptop having Clinton emails on it. It was a speech that Flynn's lawyer gave at a local right wing troll college in Michigan 'Hillsdale'.

I was surprised (not really) to see this link hit a lot of the links our neighborhood left and right trolls linked here.

Notice the propaganda picture at the start. I also realized afterwards, that this is likely a website that the Russians have used to try to catfish our police into buying the right wing narratives that Trump's trolls (foreign and domestic) push as a way to try to gain credibility for people that are not understanding of the scam.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fbi-whistleblower-in-hillary-clinton-email-scandal-threatened-by-former-assistant-us-attorney/
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New York Post

RealClearInvestigations

So many to list in this article. It is basically wall to wall propaganda aimed at people who trust the police.

Did my bullshit analysis:

Carter page search spit out 11 pages of right wing trolls on the Democrats:

Mueller search spit out 14 pages of propaganda stories using Barr and the Republicans narratives.
Now to the good stuff that really tells the nuts and bolts of the propaganda level.


Papadopoulos had only one page of results. Mostly with titles about Flynn and Barrs lies about the Mueller investigation.

And finally the cherry on top that shows that this is just another Russian prop up website attacking Americans (pro-police crowd scam website).

Butina:
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I mean why would a law enforcement news website have anything about an actual sexy red headed Russian spy attached to high level American politicians?

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oswizzle

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you MSM fanboys/girls are going to love the outcome of this massive fraud....Biden wont get anywhere near the whitehouse.... Sleepy Joe is going to have the SCOTUS pimp slap his shady ass
 
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