Greenpoint Seeds (Uncut)

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by Heisengrow, Feb 7, 2018.

    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the info. I've never grown zamaldelica so it's been challenging. I've been giving them mild bloom nutes (3-12-12) for a while because they didn't like mega crop. I topped them several times in an effort to keep em shorter, but they're still too tall.
    Can't get a pic until lights on (4 hours).
    Amos Otis

    Amos Otis Well-Known Member

    No idea. ha ha ha. But the majority since implementing have been much happier. Makes sense to me, as they don't abandon growth for full bloom 'til about week 4.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Here are my Zamaldelicas. (Sorry for the HPS lighting.)
    The two on the left are male and will be in the worm bin tomorrow morning. :cry:

    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    Ahh hate to hear that... For you anyway, I know your situation and that you have a limit on plant count and all. Those are some nice males in all seriousness lol.

    I have found that on many landrace strains, it is best to hit them heavy up front in the beginning of 12/12 with bloom nutrients, something heavier in P and K and kinda back off the nitrogen at least for the first couple of weeks in flower. Then, on second week
    plus through about 4ish, start increasing the nitrogen also while still giving them preferable amount a of P and K.

    Also, if you have any, or maybe whatever nute/fert you are currently using has Kelp included in the mix, this is a great addiction for slowing down stretch as well. It contains a natural plant growth regulator (PGR) called Triacontanol... Especially if your kelp is extracted specifically or derived from the ascophylum nodosum species of sea kelp.

    I don't always recommend starting 12/12 right off the bat with bloom nutes, but if head space is a concern for someone, especially in running a landrace indoors, you don't want that extra boost of vegetation time in the first few weeks of flower.. You wanna do everything possible to keep it short, kick her ass in gear to start pushing flowers and then once you start noticing good bud site development appearing, that is the sweet spot when you wanna start increasing the nitrogen just a little. Just enough to keep the leaves healthy and green.

    There are basically two ways most people kick off the flowering cycle... And simply put...

    1) Veg nutes continued into 12/12 for the first 2 to 3 weeks, then start feeding bloom food...(not my preference indoors, but definitely outdoors as this method is very important, in my climate anyway).

    2) Flower nutrients started immediately and continued throughout the entire grow (which in my opinion most people see lots of deficiencies, specifically nitrogen with this method... Plants need that nitrogen at least till the last two weeks of flower).

    3) This is the best choice for flowering plants with long solid full bud formation and reducing stretch to a minimum. I have created this for myself over the years, having to deal with short head space, I do this indoor only and got the #1 route outdoor.

    It goes... Bloom nutes first 2 weeks with enough nitrogen to sustain a healthy green color in leaves, then switch to an equal amount flower/veg nute schedule from say week 2 to 3, then after 3 to 4ish drop the veg nutes and go full bloom specific again just like you did in week one. It is likely from this point forward that you bloom nutes contain enough trace amounts of nitrogen to sustain the plants demands from that point forward (after the 1 to 4 week stretch period), nitrogen is needed slightly but drastically less.

    Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to make sure your picking up on what I'm saying.
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Anyone got anything good or bad to say about the purple outlaw?
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    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    Nothing yet, mine are 2 weeks in veg. Seem to be uniform though.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    I totally get what you're saying.
    I'm always adjusting nutes on the fly. Mostly because I like to run multiple strains in the same crop.
    Hell I've got seven strains going right now!
    Chinook Haze
    Skunk (unkown variety)
    Double Purple
    Black Willie
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Not yet, but I've got two packs. :leaf:
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    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    Here are all multiple strains, I grew using that method. I mean yeah you do have to adjust and customize a bit, these were all from seed and you can see the solid bud formation.

    Screenshot_2018-02-13-23-59-01.png Screenshot_2018-02-13-23-59-11.png

    Trich production seems to be fair as well..




    The yellow leaves are just from the flush... I used to get a lb per seed run, back in the day... then switched to feeding the way I explained and now pull around 1.5 to 2 per 1000 hps. I suppose it is mainly because the buds seem to pack on closer all into main full colas as opposed to nugs here and there and gaps/spaces in the bud formation.

    These were all from feminized seed, various breeders and various strains. In that particular room I was running a 1000w and a 600w and pulled right at 3 lb. Not bad, but I didn't used to get these results before I started feeding the way I currently do..

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    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    There is one plant in the very first photo in far left that you cannot see fully, but you can see the clawed leaves... That was "Purple Bud" an almost pure sativa and I accident my over dosed her on nitrogen lol, you can see her claws.

    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    Plants in the back far right hand corner in first pic is a Zamaldelica next to an ECSDH ... Stretch is over in that photo and those lights were only 6ft and 2 inches high.

    psychadelibud Well-Known Member

    Nice line up!

    Your C99 from FMS?

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    My biggest mix was 17 different strains at once lol

    Talk about canopy issues lol
    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

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    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    With full on sativas sometimes its best to start off with 12/12. That helps keep thier size down.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    The zamaldelicas have been a learning experience.
    And I'm not exactly thrilled to only get 4 females out of 11 Chinook Haze seeds.
    Now I've got extra plant count & can't decide between taking clones or popping new beans.
    Got a pack of "Half & Half" from cannaventure that I really want to try.
    And they're feminized, which is nice. :roll:
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    Heisengrow Well-Known Member

    Man I been busy making progress on my building.this shit is gonna straight when I'm building it specifically for my needs so everything is laid out exactly the way I need it.ill have 2 separate 12 bucket 4X10 on 12 12 in one room and a dedicated 27 bucket under a 4x12 for vegging and sexing plants.i should pull a 4x10 every 30 days with this setup.all 10 foot ceilings

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    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    That's what happens with reg seeds. Might get mostly fem one pack and mostly males the next.

    I want some of the half and half. They are out at the moment.
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    Cold$moke Well-Known Member


    I went with 6 inch walls but my building is a shed compared to yours lol and i need the insulation in a cold climate

    At least by building it your self you can do the little things a contractor doesnt care about :)

    Heisengrow Well-Known Member

    Yeah I'm putting 2 inch foam on the outside and gonna run the ac lines on the wall between the 2 inch than cover with another 1 inch foam and stucco it.that gives me 3 inches of foam sealed on the outside and r13 on the inside walls.R30 in the ceilings and R30 under the floor.
    Also using half inch ply on the ceilings so I can screw my lights up without having to deal with studs.gonna have custom drains in the floors and an inlet in each room for water.i can also put all the electric outlets exactly where they need to be for my pumps and water chillers.shit is gonna be bad ass
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