Has it gone Hermie? Should I take it out?

userx

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I'm doing my second grow now, first time was with autos and this time unknown bag seed photos. One is Indica one is Sativa it seems. Will be 6th week of flowering two days later. Both started producing trichomes but sativa one stopped, there was a slight smell building up that's gone and generally it has started becoming unhealthy, started to not be able to carry it's own branches/colas and it looks weird, I thought one of the reasons might be it's going hermie. I have some photos and took new ones, I think it's hermie, you can see the banana in 6th photo. I will take it out and focus on the Indica one, I hope it won't be ruined either. Any input and thought would be appreciated, thanks.
 

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JustBlazin

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I think I would take it out for looking like dog shit:wall:
As far as it being a herm, I don't see any balls, just a plant you couldn't pay me to smoke

Do yourself a favour and purchase some good genetics. Nobody wants to waste there time on growing a bunch of schwag.
Feel for you brother, even when you buy from well known breeders you sometimes end up with dog shit for plants. But most times you should get a least a few decent to real good plants from a pack.
I don't see the banana in the 6th pic, maybe I'm blind..lol
Also there's a good chance that your bag seed was the result of a herm in the first place, so your plants will have a higher tendency to turn herm themselves
 
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xtsho

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Your overfeeding it. Some sativas are sensitive to too many nutrients. The burnt tips and the clawing of the newer single blade leaf growth on the flowers. You can't feed it the same as the indica dominant hybrid.
 

userx

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I think I would take it out for looking like dog shit:wall:
As far as it being a herm, I don't see any balls, just a plant you couldn't pay me to smoke

Do yourself a favour and purchase some good genetics. Nobody wants to waste there time on growing a bunch of schwag.
Feel for you brother, even when you buy from well known breeders you sometimes end up with dog shit for plants. But most times you should get a least a few decent to real good plants from a pack.
I don't see the banana in the 6th pic, maybe I'm blind..lol
Also there's a good chance that your based was the result of a herm in the first place, so your plants will have a higher tendency to turn herm themselves
Hey thank you for the input. I've purchased SLH auto seeds in my first grow -harvested end of January-, 2 out of 3 sprouted that time; 6 months later none of the remaining seeds had sprouted and I was already broke from building up the system etc. so I used these two seeds left from the stuff I had smoked, one genetic, one is just mellow regular stuff, I guess this was the one :) And the autos from the first grow, one grew very big for a auto and as a first attempt but I followed many reddit advices and waited for like 100 days to harvest which it became mellow and sleepy stuff mostly turned to cbd with little thc I guess (maybe blessing in disguise), so failed. Luckily I had been smoking from that since like day 69 every day :) so I know what it could have been. So now I'm more broke than ever and I'm only left with half jar of that first grow and it would be very frustrating to fail all plants. I'll purchase some seed next time.

I'll add the photo again, it's my bad, it's not very focused and sharp. I think I'll take it out, I don't want to risk the other. On the other hand if it's not hermie and if there is still hope even for a mellow stuff with low thc, maybe I should keep? I've put a lot of energy hand watering everyday, and nutes of course. But not if it's garbage with no effect. Thanks again.
@HydoDan
 

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JustBlazin

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Hey thank you for the input. I've purchased SLH auto seeds in my first grow -harvested end of January-, 2 out of 3 sprouted that time; 6 months later none of the remaining seeds had sprouted and I was already broke from building up the system etc. so I used these two seeds left from the stuff I had smoked, one genetic, one is just mellow regular stuff, I guess this was the one :) And the autos from the first grow, one grew very big for a auto and as a first attempt but I followed many reddit advices and waited for like 100 days to harvest which it became mellow and sleepy stuff mostly turned to cbd with little thc I guess (maybe blessing in disguise), so failed. Luckily I had been smoking from that since like day 69 every day :) so I know what it could have been. So now I'm more broke than ever and I'm only left with half jar of that first grow and it would be very frustrating to fail all plants. I'll purchase some seed next time.

I'll add the photo again, it's my bad, it's not very focused and sharp. I think I'll take it out, I don't want to risk the other. On the other hand if it's not hermie and if there is still hope even for a mellow stuff with low thc, maybe I should keep? I've put a lot of energy hand watering everyday, and nutes of course. But not if it's garbage with no effect. Thanks again.
@HydoDan
Ok ya I see it
Def looks like a nanner
 

userx

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Your overfeeding it. Some sativas are sensitive to too many nutrients. The burnt tips and the clawing of the newer single blade leaf growth on the flowers. You can't feed it the same as the indica dominant hybrid.
I know, I've read about it; for a while I've kept the ec levels same, later I was diluting for the sativa one like 100-150ec less for it. I havent prepared a separate batch for it 'cause I am like exhausted from hand watering everyday and those two are left from 5 plants. So my ec leves recently are around 1600ec for Indica and around 1500ec for Sativa, I started to take it lower after burnt tips. I though these would be more resilient than autos which I had almost zero problems. Thank you.
 

JustBlazin

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If you want to keep it in there, since like you said you spent alot of time and energy to grow it, just pluck off the one nunnery and keep an eye out in case more show up.
1 nunnery not a big deal, it's when there's clusters all over that it's a big problem
 

userx

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If you want to keep it in there, since like you said you spent alot of time and energy to grow it, just pluck off the one nunnery and keep an eye out in case more show up.
1 nunnery not a big deal, it's when there's clusters all over that it's a big problem
I could spot one more I think and took the photo but I think you're right, I decided to take it out, take my losses and leave. Once the trichomes gone I dont think it will produce again, no point wasting more energy and resource and risk the other. First grow was already good, it just matured a lot, so I could still use it kind of medicinal, this one there will be nothing to begin with. I hope other will turn out at least somewhat decent. Thanks so much for the replies, I cant 'like' them, no button for me :)
 

ebcrew

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Damn i would have just taken the nanner out but to each their own. Plants look a little strange.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Your overfeeding it. Some sativas are sensitive to too many nutrients. The burnt tips and the clawing of the newer single blade leaf growth on the flowers. You can't feed it the same as the indica dominant hybrid.
I agree. Even if there's nanners, that thing looks overfed to me too. Especially on the N.
 

userx

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Damn i would have just taken the nanner out but to each their own. Plants look a little strange.
I already cut it down to pieces. I dont know if I could revive it but those branches could not stand. Actually I had prepared a separate batch and dilute it to 1300ec for flush just to see if it would somewhat revive but ph came too low and I was like ok off with it then. It didn't feel good. I dont want to spend another 6-8 weeks watering everyday just to have some garbage and yes it looks weird, kind of felt like it was over matured very fast. Other Indica looks healthy, leaves are praying. trichomes are there. I will just focus on it with my only ts1000 and get the most out of it, if I knew it would be a different setup with a much bigger pot so it wouldn't be such a hassle to feed. And I agree with others about the nutes, I only grew sativa autos before this and my levels are very similar. I thought photos needed more ec so my levels were like 50-100ec more, highest I went for indica like 1650 and 1550 for Sativa so very similar levels with the autos. But I think it didn't respond well to Pk 13/14, I think it was too early for that, even though I'm using very low levels like 0.3ml per lt and this week 0.5ml, photo sativa's flowering times are too long so it was way early for it I guess. That's my theory, one of the factors; I was kind of imitating my routine for the autos, plus adding like 100ec to it.

Also probably bad genetics, one was just regular outdoor stuff which is this sativa one I guess, just a shitty one :) It's crazy hot out there so whatever it gives I will take it as long as it's something decent. Living in a very hot and humid climate, it's like 37-40c out there daytime, I was prepared for failure actually, but it was not that bad, I tried to keep it under 30c and it is like 28-29 consistently with lights on, I turn on the ac from the other room before watering. But this last week I started to observe these tiny mini white worms crawling up and under the surface when I water. I saw them before starting this grow too. I had bought my coco last September keeping the half left in a big sealed plastic box in a closet, so come this March when I started to do preparations the coco was infested with these tiny worms so little that I cant even photograph. I added a few ml of hydrogen peroxide and water the coco, get a lot of runoff e few times, sprayed it with Cannacure and they were gone. This last week they were there again, so I began spraying the surface of the coco with Cannacure. They were gone visibly from the Indica one not crawling anymore when watering, I started to use oscillating fan all the time instead of 15mins intervals and the last time I couldnt see them in the Sativa's pot either but now it's cut down. I was dying for a new light but I think I need to invest and setup an auto-watering system first, was thinking of changing to some kind of dwc for practicality reasons (I dont want to water everyday) but just an auto-feed system could be better and cheaper for me as it would be more resilient to higher solution temps with coco I think. Thank you.

@PadawanWarrior
 

userx

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Looks like you grew mexican brick weed.
I had to look for it but when I read it immediately remembered The Blow movie where they were getting these weed from the fields in Mexico :) and apparently same thing. I think this Sativa is just like that :) I had bought some little, way before and I'm pretty sure it's outdoor plants grown in the fields at countryside, mellow stuff. It was good at smoking outside with a few beers. I have kept its seeds with other seeds when I was thinking of growing my own. More than 2 years old, sitting in a drawer and all three seeds sprouted from it and a couple from the indica one while the SLH auto seeds I had purchased that I was keeping in a refrigerator all failed germination but two :) I think I'll keep my seeds in a drawer or a closet from now on.
 

userx

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And while we're at it I want to ask something if it's ok. I had prepared a separate batch for the sativa with calmag and base nutes A-B before deciding to take it out. Can I add supplemantary nutes that are in the feeding chart like Pk 13/14 to the mix like couple of days later after preparing the base mix? To use with the other plant.
 

SidV

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Sorry for your loss. Hope it smokes well for you.

For future reference solo Nana's can suck but sometimes there not viable and don't create pollen. Also you can hand pluck them off if there are only a few on the outsides of the bud. Those are the ones you have to worry about. Not singles tucked away inside as they get no airflow and rarely pollinate more than one or two.
 
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