Help with my budding Nl auto please first grow

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    greenskeeper willy

    greenskeeper willy Member

    it’s 50 days old and the buds starting to form nice but the leafs don’t look healthy advice please growing in coco coir first grow
     

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    JackSkell

    JackSkell Active Member

    what nutrient line you using? how often are you feeding? what are you setting ph to when feeding? size of the pot? when was the last time you flushed?
     
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    greenskeeper willy

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    Canna a and b carb load and cal mag I flushed about 2 weeks ago I gave it pk 13 14 and carb load this week I usually feed every second day 11 little pots and i think the ph does be in the 5s it does be yellow when I test it
     
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    AbeFroman

    AbeFroman Well-Known Member

    Looks to me like overfeeding based on the tip burn and lockout of some sort. Probably from large PH fluctuations Just feed it ever time you water in coco (lower the feed amount if you need to), dont alternate watering especially if you don't ph your solution. You should invest in a good PH meter if you are going to grow in coco. 5.8-6.1 is what I consider the prime areas but some take it as far as 5.5-6.2.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    The problems started with the bloom nutes? Bloom boosters and cannabis specific this and that are all gimmicks.

    Feed them a balanced feed moth micros and they do great.
     
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    JackSkell

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    alright greenskeeper, i agree with both abefroman and whitebb, it appears to be overwatering with a slightly high nutrient concentration/inaccurate ph. I would cut back on your nutrients a bit, use only whats necessary and avoid extras as they are usually nothing but gimmicks. Ive been growing in coco for about 8 years now and ive personally come to love the dyna-gro line of nutes, use the "foliage-pro" for veg, and "bloom" for flowering, cal-mag will be the only other nutrient you really need but i also use dyna-gro's "pro-tekt" in my resevoir, its a silicon nute that helps protect the plant from environmental stress and just makes the plants much hardier. DEFINENTLY get a proper ph meter, you dont need a crazy expensive one, but you definitely need a meter, not strips, if youre gonna grow in coco, PH is important no matter what you grow in but coco can be particularly picky about it, as abeforman suggested 5.8-6.1 is the sweet spot for coco, but as long as your within the 5.5-6.2 range youll be fine, but strips are generally the most inaccurate way to check ph so do yourself a favor and just get a digital meter.

    Idk much about your setup but ive found my preferred way to grow with coco is drip+drain to waste, flood and drain was good too but salt buildup can happen quickly if you go that way, youll obviously have to go through some trial and error to figure out what works best for you but drip+drain to waste gives me the best combination of total control and ease of use, youll probably go a few years before getting a nice professional setup going but DIY setups can be just as good, lookup "DIY drain to waste buckets" and see if it looks interesting to you, i love it because with drain to waste i just fill my reservoir once a week, twice a day my drip pump kicks on, i have it dialed in so each session of drip gives about 10% runoff, the runoff is tubed out the bottom of my pots to a small collection bucket that pumps it out the nearest window when the float switch is tripped. Your post mentions this is your first grow so im sure alot of this is confusing for you but dont be afraid to ask questions, lots of good info and helpful people on these boards. Good luck to ya!
     
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    greenskeeper willy

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    Thanks for the info buddy and I have a Wilma self watering system but I have never used it yet I should get it runing I’m going to invest in a proper ph it’s hardship with them do you think the plant will be ok and give alrightbyeild still
     
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    JackSkell

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    Ahh okay, so with the wilma youll be doing drip which is good but the way it comes its setup to be recirculating, which just means using the same water over and over, the only issue i had with recirculating setups is the labor of changing the water, i grow in a bedroom so i was having to carry heavy loads of water back and forth to the bathroom to drain and refill, which couldve been anywhere from once a week to once a month, either way it was alot of back breaking labor.

    What i would suggest is using the lower reservoir as your drain out, so have the pump thats in there tubed to pump water out a nearby window or wherever is convenient for you, and get yourself a small barrel to use as your feed reservoir, you would just need to buy a second pump to use for the feed line to the drippers. make sure if you do that you get a barrel thats food grade and either black or blue, those are the best colors to avoid light getting through to the water which results in algae growth, also make sure you get one with a lid, it doesnt have to be a locking lid but i like the lock rings for mine because it keeps it sealed well against any possible contaminants, youll have to drill a hole in the lid or the top of the barrel somewhere and fit it with a grommet for the tubing to run through to keep everything sealed, but thats easily accomplished.

    Your plant will be fine, just cut back on the nutes a little, and dont water again for a few days, the roots really like a good wet-dry cycle, so let the coco dry out a bit in between waterings, not too dry but dry enough that you can stick your finger 1 knuckle deep and feel very little or no moisture. and until you get a ph meter just try to get your strips to show as close to 5.8-6 as you can but as i stressed earlier you should definitely get a meter asap!

    In the future try to avoid autoflowering strains, i wont say theres anything "wrong" with them but photoperiod plants are much hardier and genetically sound, which equates to more yield and a more potent product.
     
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    JackSkell

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    also what are you using for lighting and air circulation? do you have a grow tent or do you just have it in a room somewhere?
     
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    greenskeeper willy

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    A buddy grow tent iv 4 off them Nl autos and 5 skunk 1s they not autos there only 2 weeks old it’s a 600 hps and a carbon extractor fan 2 thanks for all the info buddy
     
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    JackSkell

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    right on man, youll be good to go once you dial in your nutes and feeding schedule, remembr the older the plant gets the more it will need to drink so for right now you may only need to water once every 2-3 days but ltowards the end of flower you'll probably be watering once a day. again just keep an eye on the moisture of your pots, if you stick your finger in the dirt and its moist at 1 knuckle deep then hold off on watering again until it dries out some. good luck man!
     
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    greenskeeper willy

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    thanks again for all that info buddy I’m happy out with it anyway bar the fuck up with ph how many weeks would I be looking at an when should I flush her before harvest
     

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    JackSkell

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    Let the plant tell tou when its time to harvest, I'm going to assume you dont have a microscrope to check trichomes so basically just wait until your pistils are all nice and orange with very few to no white ones left.
     
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    greenskeeper willy

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    Thanks buddy
     
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