How's the flavor of coco grown flower versus soil?

The best flavor and flower I've ever grown was in soil. I switched to hydro and it's just never been the same. I've got 4 coco plants going now with canna brand coco. No rinsing or buffering. Just hydrate and use it. I'm really hoping this will get my hydro ladies tasting like soil again. I've also seen some cool side by side tests growing peppers in soil, coco, and hydro. The coco beat the hydro by 2x and beat the soil by 5x.

What do you coco growers think? Is coco flavor the same as soil?

2x2 Grower on youtube is doing a side by side grow, coco vs soil. He'll probably post about the finished product when it's done, but it's cool to watch the progress as he's about day 51 into the grow currently.

I have limited experience as a grower but decades of experience as a consumer, and have compared many grow styles' flowers. My most basic opinion; organic soil produces the "loudest" flower, coco is a happy medium of loudness, flavor and potency, and to be honest I'm not 100% sure if I've smoked DWC flower but I have had DWC peppers and tomaotes, and they're always biggest with least flavor, but I wouldn't say bland.

Im leaning if you use the same nutes it will taste the same or little difference.

Sorry coco / hydro will be the same,coco to organic will be different ,coco to salt fed soil Id go with salt fed soil as the better flavor

hey dude
i've been running soil,
coco for a while
then soil again
i used canna cogr long time, i used it very light under 1ec with mycho, molasses had some great finishes, but never got the same terroir taste on some strains,
that' why i came back to soil
Maybe go with another vendor, i see better results with floraflex on ig (idk if it's mineral line ^^) but imo u won't get it with canna
canna cocoA+B 2bottles gave me better results than 4parts in the terps dept
edit > soil with organic feed ofc

This was pretty good imo

A lot of people might disagree, but my coco stuff tastes just as good as my organic soil buds. I do add kelp extract, amino acids, fulvic acid, and I use mycorrhizae and a bacterial inoculant (or aact, if I'm not being lazy). You can cultivate a microbiome even while using 2 part inorganic nutrients, and I think that microbiome has a huge impact on plant health and flavor. In various studies looking at ISR/SAR, you find that by stimulating those responses, various nutrient levels, antioxidants, and essential oils (terpenes) increase. High phosphorus is the thing that suppresses the microbiome the most, so Jack's and Megacrop are actually perfect because they are already using intelligent amounts of phosphorus, and by using a lower PPM solution and feeding multiple times per day, you can create favorable conditions for rhizobacteria/myco growth. I see certain people claiming that the microbiome has zero impact on plant growth when using inorganic nutrients, and that trying to cultivate a microbiome in such circumstances is utterly pointless, but nothing could be further from the truth. It's foolish to think that plant signaling stops and that rhizobacteria cease pumping out enzymes and secondary metabolites simply because the population is slightly smaller than in an organic grow.

when method and environment are dialed in, taste is all in the genetics, dry, and cure ime

Doesn't matter how fancy your wine grapes are and what kind of imported French soil they were grown in if you are drinking the wine thirty minutes after you finished fermenting it and filtered it through a dirty sock.

It's the cure that makes the taste and the aging that finishes the wine.

Absolutely 0 difference in flavour and nose.

Major difference in growth though

The turtle vs the hare

I've grown soil, coco, and hydro. Weed always tastes great. If there is any difference I can't tell. And I don't cure either. It's not required for great tasting weed so I don't bother with it. My weed tastes great and is ready to smoke as soon as it's dry.

I think a bigger factor in taste is going to come down to what you put on your plants. Dumping a bunch of high P/K boosters can make your weed taste like crap and reduce your yield. Which is what many people do and you can't fix that with any cure. In fact half the photos people post are crispy fried plants from overfeeding that look like crap despite those making comments like "Looks great dude" or "Nice looking plants" when in fact they look like garbage. That's what happens when so many watch some hack on youtube growing crap. I think there are many that don't even know what a healthy plant looks like. Yellowing crispy fried leaves 3 weeks from harvest is not some stupid "Fade" it's an unhealthy plant. Unhealthy plants can end up tasting like what my dog leaves in little piles around the yard.

I won't bother but it would take me less than 5 minutes to find multiple posts showing some nasty plants and people saying they look great.

Well I didn't have enough coco to do all 8 of the babies so I did half in fox farm ocean forest and the other half in canna coco. It's trippy to see how much water coco can absorb but it doesn't drown the roots. Strangest cool shit I've seen in a minute. I'm running strawberry cough, white widow, jack herer, and something called rocket fuel. I never see anyone run ww or jh these days so I thought I'd try a little throw back for old times sake. I put a layer of #4 perlite in the bottom of each container to keep the coco from running out the drain hole.

xtsho said:

I've grown soil, coco, and hydro. Weed always tastes great. If there is any difference I can't tell. And I don't cure either. It's not required for great tasting weed so I don't bother with it. My weed tastes great and is ready to smoke as soon as it's dry.

I think a bigger factor in taste is going to come down to what you put on your plants. Dumping a bunch of high P/K boosters can make your weed taste like crap and reduce your yield. Which is what many people do and you can't fix that with any cure. In fact half the photos people post are crispy fried plants from overfeeding that look like crap despite those making comments like "Looks great dude" or "Nice looking plants" when in fact they look like garbage. That's what happens when so many watch some hack on youtube growing crap. I think there are many that don't even know what a healthy plant looks like. Yellowing crispy fried leaves 3 weeks from harvest is not some stupid "Fade" it's an unhealthy plant. Unhealthy plants can end up tasting like what my dog leaves in little piles around the yard.

I won't bother but it would take me less than 5 minutes to find multiple posts showing some nasty plants and people saying they look great.

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Spot on statement. I don't get into the grow journal section too often but every now and again I'll check it out. It's nuts to see how many bottles of crap some of the new growers are using. Even mixing products from multiple different lines of fertilizer. Then they toss a high output LED light 12" from the canopy and wonder why they're having problems. Then you see there are 10+ other idiots that give them a thumbs up rather than offering good advice. Coco is really easy to work with. I see why so many people are using it these days.

The last time I saw a proper fade was when I grew in soil. I saw some fade pics (maybe in this thread?) from a coco grow that were really beautiful. Purple and a slight yellowing but the leaves were all healthy. I'm hoping I see the same thing on the coco girls I've got going.

Kervork said:

Doesn't matter how fancy your wine grapes are and what kind of imported French soil they were grown in if you are drinking the wine thirty minutes after you finished fermenting it and filtered it through a dirty sock.

It's the cure that makes the taste and the aging that finishes the wine.

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And it does not matter how well you age dry or cure it the drapes were sour to start. It matters a whole bunch. Crapy grapes always make crapy wine.

Genetics, grow skill, drying, curing are going to influence taste way more than the medium or nutrients used. Take two clones and grow one in soil and one in hydro with all other variables equal and no one will tell the difference by taste.