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Tim Fox

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SomeGuy said:
The roots grow into the rez. You want them to from what I understand. :-). The ferts (organic) are in the soil.

The big ass 10gl octopot I built seems to working great! I noticed that with the wick sitting in the water with the airstones that the water does become tea-like. So far the plant loves it. Can't wait till a root hits the rez

Thanks again to hy for inspiring me! I just hate watering all the time. Lol
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ok here is another question,, from the auto watering videos i have watched,, like the earthbox and the octopot ,, there are no airpumps in the res,, so really it isnt needed,,, ?,,
I am eating up information on this subject,, thanks for helping
 
SomeGuy

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Tim Fox said:
ok here is another question,, from the auto watering videos i have watched,, like the earthbox and the octopot ,, there are no airpumps in the res,, so really it isnt needed,,, ?,,
I am eating up information on this subject,, thanks for helping
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I don't think it's necessary but from doing Dwc in the past I can tell you keeping air in the water will positively affect growth rate. HY recommended using the airstones for added boost. Lol. It seems to be working thus far.
 
nvhak49

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I'm gonna be making some soon too from what I've seen with hyroot a luck there's no reason not to try it out. Here's a video I found that looks like that could work well.

 
Humanrob

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SomeGuy said:
The roots grow into the rez. You want them to from what I understand. :-). The ferts (organic) are in the soil.

The big ass 10gl octopot I built seems to working great! I noticed that with the wick sitting in the water with the airstones that the water does become tea-like. So far the plant loves it. Can't wait till a root hits the rez

Thanks again to hy for inspiring me! I just hate watering all the time. Lol
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I hear you, I've got four different sized plants in my tent now in different sized pots (some 3's, some 5's), and they are drinking at different rates... it would save a lot of time and energy to have them 'self watering' at their own individual paces.
 
Tim Fox

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SomeGuy said:
The roots grow into the rez. You want them to from what I understand. :-). The ferts (organic) are in the soil.

The big ass 10gl octopot I built seems to working great! I noticed that with the wick sitting in the water with the airstones that the water does become tea-like. So far the plant loves it. Can't wait till a root hits the rez

Thanks again to hy for inspiring me! I just hate watering all the time. Lol
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do you have a thread of your DIY octopot?,, would love to see some pics
 
SomeGuy

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Tim Fox said:
do you have a thread of your DIY octopot?,, would love to see some pics
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https://www.rollitup.org/t/someguys-led-other-grows-2014-15-season.851562/page-65

its just in my current thread. page 65 there about half way down the page it starts. There is some discussion on the following pages and I added air stones. Works great so far. the current page of the journal shows the plant in that sip from last night. Its a pre98 bubba clone. grows slow but is actually doing better than normal! LOL Still slow though.. LOL
 
HockeyBeard

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SomeGuy said:
The roots grow into the rez. You want them to from what I understand. :-). The ferts (organic) are in the soil.

The big ass 10gl octopot I built seems to working great! I noticed that with the wick sitting in the water with the airstones that the water does become tea-like. So far the plant loves it. Can't wait till a root hits the rez

Thanks again to hy for inspiring me! I just hate watering all the time. Lol
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Do you have pics of your Octos? I am doing the same in some 7 Gal, but I'm going to switch to the real deal octos and pump an air stone in through a hole next run. The wick in the actual ones is so much better at holding soil in, I've got some washout going on at the bottom from filling the saucer.

Edit - Nevermind, I see the pics. I like it a lot! These work. You're going to be thrilled.
 
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Humanrob

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Interesting thing I just read in the Octopot FAQ -- they say if you use an air stone, only run on/off - 50/50, not continuously, because if you do it can overdue the oxygen and mess up the PH. I know nothing about this personally, just passing along what I read.

I've been trying to learn about sip systems and contemplating building a DIY version, but I'm a bit confused about the medium. I'm reading that potting soil -- even cut heavily with perlite -- won't wick sufficiently. Are you guys all using Pro-Mix, or coco, or a sorghum peat moss mix (i.e. going soilless)? Or can you use something like FFOF (at least in part) in a sip system?

Currently I have two girls in a HF/FFOF amended mix in 2 gallon pots, and I will be up-potting them after about 5 weeks of vegging. I'm trying to figure out if I can move them to a sip system when I transplant, or if because they are in soil, it won't really work?

@SomeGuy , @hyroot , @Tim Fox
 
hyroot

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Humanrob said:
Interesting thing I just read in the Octopot FAQ -- they say if you use an air stone, only run on/off - 50/50, not continuously, because if you do it can overdue the oxygen and mess up the PH. I know nothing about this personally, just passing along what I read.

I've been trying to learn about sip systems and contemplating building a DIY version, but I'm a bit confused about the medium. I'm reading that potting soil -- even cut heavily with perlite -- won't wick sufficiently. Are you guys all using Pro-Mix, or coco, or a sorghum peat moss mix (i.e. going soilless)? Or can you use something like FFOF (at least in part) in a sip system?

Currently I have two girls in a HF/FFOF amended mix in 2 gallon pots, and I will be up-potting them after about 5 weeks of vegging. I'm trying to figure out if I can move them to a sip system when I transplant, or if because they are in soil, it won't really work?

@SomeGuy , @hyroot , @Tim Fox
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No. We're running straight plain water in our resi's so no way for ph to fluctuate. Plus I have living soil in the above pot / tote so ph wouldn't be an issue anyways.

Back in my aero hydro days I ran airstones in the resi 24/7 and never had a ph issue . I ran that for about 7 - 8 years
 
Humanrob

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hyroot said:
No. We're running straight plain water in our resi's so no way for ph to fluctuate. Plus I have living soil in the above pot / tote so ph wouldn't be an issue anyways.

Back in my aero hydro days I ran airstones in the resi 24/7 and never had a ph issue . I ran that for about 7 - 8 years
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Thanks for that information. When you say you have soil, is it all soil or soil and some other medium mixed?
 
Humanrob

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All soil. Peat moss, pumice, vermicompost and amendments.
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Thanks again! It sounds like if I use a chunkier looser mix for the subsequent soil in the up-potting, I can move these plants from a regular pot/soil set up into a sip system. If that's the case I'm kind of psyched, because the two I'm currently vegging are my last two indoor plants until October. Either I try this with them, or I wait until fall for the next opportunity.
 
hyroot

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Thanks again! It sounds like if I use a chunkier looser mix for the subsequent soil in the up-potting, I can move these plants from a regular pot/soil set up into a sip system. If that's the case I'm kind of psyched, because the two I'm currently vegging are my last two indoor plants until October. Either I try this with them, or I wait until fall for the next opportunity.
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All my sip plants were vegged in 2 gal plastic pots. It would be the same as transplanting into any soil pot.

Just the sips water the soil from the bottom, emulating nature where trees get water from the water table below the ground surface

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. It waters the soil more efficiently with the obvious benefits. Extremely faster growth and far more trichome development, a larger and happier root zone. Unlike fabric pots the bottom roots never get root bound in sips.
 
Humanrob

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@hyroot - excellent information and illustration.

at the risk of asking too many questions... why do you start your plants in separate 2 gallon pots (which it sounds like are not sip pots), why not just start them right in the sip pot?

I'm curious how much water the res holds in those buckets, and how much soil you have in the pots? During the last weeks of flower, how often are you topping them off? As I contemplate designs, I'm trying to figure out a good ratio of soil to res size.
 
SomeGuy

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The wick part of the sip should be peet or coco to get water up to your soil. Just being clear. I used peet for my first one as that is what I had. My next ones will have coco wicks. My soil mix also has peet and coco in it along w a bunch of amendments. Wicks really well and is organic

Humanrob said:
Thanks again! It sounds like if I use a chunkier looser mix for the subsequent soil in the up-potting, I can move these plants from a regular pot/soil set up into a sip system. If that's the case I'm kind of psyched, because the two I'm currently vegging are my last two indoor plants until October. Either I try this with them, or I wait until fall for the next opportunity.
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hyroot

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Humanrob said:
@hyroot - excellent information and illustration.

at the risk of asking too many questions... why do you start your plants in separate 2 gallon pots (which it sounds like are not sip pots), why not just start them right in the sip pot?

I'm curious how much water the res holds in those buckets, and how much soil you have in the pots? During the last weeks of flower, how often are you topping them off? As I contemplate designs, I'm trying to figure out a good ratio of soil to res size.
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They were in 2 gals before I started the sips. My whole veg in both veg rooms now is in sips except for some seedlings. In 1 gals.

I forgot to mention I do have coco in my wicking pots. Makes sure to pack it tight. The size of the wick pot depends on the size of the soil pot too.
 
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