Ladies & Gentlemen....i present to you NYC Piff aka Uptown Haze

Devils34

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It still exists.

It still looks shitty by today's standards...but for some unexplainable reason gets me higher than most other weed.....it has an addicting almost tropical smell to it like fruit but you cant pinpoint a specific fruit.

You get that in the taste....but oddly enough the best description ive heard is it tastes like mop water lol.

I hadnt seen this shit since 2008....i thought it was extinct until a local gifting service had it on the menu....didnt believe it was it until I got it.....i used to sell and smoke this everyday
 

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Devils34

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Well the world owes you a huge thank you then
I like Holy Grail
Nobody owes me nothing. But tons of ppl always ask about this strain, and in 2008 nobody was taking pics of this to post online lol so nobody ever has a picture of it.

This is the frankincense haze.

Ive never smoked holy grail and honestly until recently never heard anyone mention it in my life lol is it a new cross of old school strains? Or is it Mr. Nice Seeds Holy Grail strain?
 

Romulanman

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You get that in the taste....but oddly enough the best description ive heard is it tastes like mop water lol.
Mop water terps main. Its the new new.

How much mop water have you sampled to determine what is the best tho? How am I supposed to know that you are some kind of leading authority on mop water terps? Many breeders spend their entire careers sampling mop water terps to find the unicorn. What makes this the best mop water terps I'm gonna find?
 

Lightgreen2k

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Nobody owes me nothing. But tons of ppl always ask about this strain, and in 2008 nobody was taking pics of this to post online lol so nobody ever has a picture of it.

This is the frankincense haze.

Ive never smoked holy grail and honestly until recently never heard anyone mention it in my life lol is it a new cross of old school strains? Or is it Mr. Nice Seeds Holy Grail strain?
That means you don't know about Top Dawg NyC Strains.

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quote jjnyc Date 2010...
There are many different versions of the NYC Haze, ranging from floral Thai to cat piss and everything in between. I know the cat piss pheno. The black Haze is not this pheno but it has hints of cat piss and Thai and could pass as a NYC Haze if it's not already. It smokes very strong and fills up the room with that classic haze smell and can hang with any NYC Haze

as for mns strains being the origins of nyc haze ive tried too do a timeline and its only possible for the silver haze or nl5 haze from 88 to be parents, as many coz say from about 92 they were uptown .as ive said i believe the nyc haze is parents to mns hybrids .

there is not much info on those oldschool hazes at mns thats not cool its seem more info is available elsewhere like IC.
 
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Devils34

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But has anyone besides JJ confirmed its NYC Piff? And actually I have seeds of his Black Piff im excited to run.....but even though it may be a haze, I 99.9% doubt it to be this haze.

Ppl have been searching for this for years.....chimera released the closest thing to it and it still just isnt it.

Ive never heard a single soul verify JJs Piff even though I want it to be legit.

I also have his mango A5....and a few others from him.
 

Lightgreen2k

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But has anyone besides JJ confirmed its NYC Piff? And actually I have seeds of his Black Piff im excited to run.....but even though it may be a haze, I 99.9% doubt it to be this haze.

Ppl have been searching for this for years.....chimera released the closest thing to it and it still just isnt it.

Ive never heard a single soul verify JJs Piff even though I want it to be legit.

I also have his mango A5....and a few others from him.
Post up, show your seeds and plants you have together or at least the seeds together.

You have never heard a single soul claim anything how, these are recent release from Top Dawg.

"Didn't you just get your first pair of topdawg seeds less than a month ago"

But do post the seed packs and started gear from him. Post it here, aint nothing like starting a pack today.

I saw your recent comments in the topdawg thread Interesting. You really don't have the experience growing at all.

Lastly People You know from that era would have to be growers, so unless you know 100's of growers and people from Nyc specifically, it will happen 0.99999% of chance.

Actually Lastly: Do you think you would have access anywhere near JJ nyc has to genetics or connections, him being a native to the growing scene? Perhaps if you did you'd be making seeds.
 
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fieldhand

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try to stay positive but OP you seem to be making large observations but with only some aspects of experience. There is more piff coming out and has in the past, gave you sample Top dawg, piff coast, doc d and others? What’s the history you are benchmarking on? Sounds like general observations based on some spot experiences. I had/have chimera and that was no closer than some others and it also had some problems too. What exactly did you find in running chimera?
 

Lightgreen2k

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Nah F#$k this. You just started Growing man. You don't run in circles with growers and such. You have been on these forums since 2014.

Come up man,- don't get into it with me. You're just not a reliable source.

Word of advice, grow topdawgs seeds after you have four seed runs under your belt..

Because what you are is a weed smoker on the Forums for years, that just turned a grower.

2014-2022 if you were a grower, you should have connections, and better seed packs.

Think you should update your thread below with pictures sir :rolleyes: :mrgreen:

 
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Devils34

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Jesus christ guys. I never claimed to be a growing expert or anything.

However, I live close to nyc and ive had the piff that was famous in nyc. Ive also had several knock offs of it. And I sold the shit for years. So yes, when it comes to the real nyc piff, I am able to tell if its official or not.

Did you guys grow JJs piff or any other Piff?

All I said was has anyone confirmed JJs Piff? Im a fan of JJs, I like the genetics he works with and crosses he makes - wasnt trying to disrespect him whatsoever.

But, on his IG he posted nyc piff pics that did not look like nyc piff. Not saying it wasnt, but it didnt appear to be it. And I read comments from ppl that thought the same way as me about it. It looked like some fire, but not like the Piff.

No I dont run in circles with growers or have access to elite genetics that are closely held.....i didnt know that you cant know anything about any strain unless you do.
 

Lightgreen2k

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Jesus christ guys. I never claimed to be a growing expert or anything.

However, I live close to nyc and ive had the piff that was famous in nyc. Ive also had several knock offs of it. And I sold the shit for years. So yes, when it comes to the real nyc piff, I am able to tell if its official or not.

Did you guys grow JJs piff or any other Piff?

All I said was has anyone confirmed JJs Piff? Im a fan of JJs, I like the genetics he works with and crosses he makes - wasnt trying to disrespect him whatsoever.

But, on his IG he posted nyc piff pics that did not look like nyc piff. Not saying it wasnt, but it didnt appear to be it. And I read comments from ppl that thought the same way as me about it. It looked like some fire, but not like the Piff.

No I dont run in circles with growers or have access to elite genetics that are closely held.....i didnt know that you cant know anything about any strain unless you do.
1) First off have you ever lived in New York City ?

2) I want to say grow it out, but to be honest you probably won't be able to grow a haze properly because you just started growing.

3) kindly post pictures/, good luck on your grows.

(See how sets of questions feel) but you did ask a set to begin with)
 
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Devils34

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1) First off have you ever lived in New York City ?

2) I want to say grow it out, but to be honest you won't be able to grow a haze properly because you just started growing.

3) post pictures/, good luck on your grows.

(See how sets of questions feel) but you did ask a set to begin with?
Never in nyc, but im right in jersey. No need to move there.

Why do I need to post pictures? I ran 3 plants, 1 was male, 2 females - 1 Bubblegum S1 (Csi) and 1 Azure Haze (jd short) both females are early in flowering, the male was removed and pollen is being collected. The male is Fruity Pebbles OG x Orange Sour Dub (obsoul33t).

Its pretty stupid to assume just because im a new grower that I cant grow a haze....honestly, so far my grow has gone relatively easy with very little issues. Whatever issues have happened ive fixed and the plants recovered from. Ive found everything relatively easy tbh. But yes ive made a few rookie mistakes a long the way that ive had to adjust, but that's how you learn.

Im not saying i would have 0 issues growing a haze, but growing haze is what ive always wanted to do and eventually will do. The azure haze I dont count being its blueberry dominant....but yeah, long flowering sativas are what ive studied most because its what I love to smoke. So having indicas has actually thrown me off more because ive never studied any indica grows. So indicas and hybrids are more my uncomfort zone than sativas.
 

Devils34

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Being you want to see pics heres my Bubblegum S1. This girl is a fighter. I nute burned her and light burned her as well. So its got some yellow tips, but it keeps trucking along. Im not comfortable enough to give her a trim yet, but ive been debating doing it so more light can get to the bud sites. But this plant is a beauty and has been a joy to grow.

This is indica dominant, ive only smoked sativa dominant bubblegum, but I loved it... So im excited for this one and to see the difference between the sativa and indica dominant versions of it.
 

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Lightgreen2k

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Never in nyc, but im right in jersey. No need to move there.

Why do I need to post pictures? I ran 3 plants, 1 was male, 2 females - 1 Bubblegum S1 (Csi) and 1 Azure Haze (jd short) both females are early in flowering, the male was removed and pollen is being collected. The male is Fruity Pebbles OG x Orange Sour Dub (obsoul33t).

Its pretty stupid to assume just because im a new grower that I cant grow a haze....honestly, so far my grow has gone relatively easy with very little issues. Whatever issues have happened ive fixed and the plants recovered from. Ive found everything relatively easy tbh. But yes ive made a few rookie mistakes a long the way that ive had to adjust, but that's how you learn.

Im not saying i would have 0 issues growing a haze, but growing haze is what ive always wanted to do and eventually will do. The azure haze I dont count being its blueberry dominant....but yeah, long flowering sativas are what ive studied most because its what I love to smoke. So having indicas has actually thrown me off more because ive never studied any indica grows. So indicas and hybrids are more my uncomfort zone than sativas.
**" Take this response with no tone of voice or grain of salt" ** kindly.

Sir right here you are asking simple veg questions ?


Right here you are saying this is your first grow, ..


I said, I would grow other strains, perhaps Og's, or hybrid because they have a different flowering time than Hazes.

Again to remain respectful,

"I'm currently growing 3 plants in a 2x2x4 unexpectingly lol I didnt think one was gonna sprout, but it did....ive been trying to determine when I should flower them....i may top them all first....not sure"

So what's my point to the above, when it comes to growing, you just don't have the experience at this point.

Some issues arrive in flower and just other small things that can come up out of nowhere like :

1) powdery mildew
2) Fungus Gnats that come in the soil at times.

It's not for me to show post just one month past of you being a new grower, Just saying Hazes are hard.

What brand of nutrients are you using advanced? I'm not sure, but the bottle line is hard.
 

Devils34

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**" Take this response with no tone of voice or grain of salt" ** kindly.

Sir right here you are asking simple veg questions ?


Right here you are saying this is your first grow, ..


I said, I would grow other strains, perhaps Og's, or hybrid because they have a different flowering time than Hazes.

Again to remain respectful,

"I'm currently growing 3 plants in a 2x2x4 unexpectingly lol I didnt think one was gonna sprout, but it did....ive been trying to determine when I should flower them....i may top them all first....not sure"

So what's my point to the above, when it comes to growing, you just don't have the experience at this point.

Some issues arrive in flower and just other small things that can come up out of nowhere like :

1) powdery mildew
2) Fungus Gnats that come in the soil at times.

It's not for me to show post just one month past of you being a new grower, Just saying Hazes are hard.

What brand of nutrients are you using advanced? I'm not sure, but the bottle line is hard.
I know that all you were saying is im inexperienced, which I absolutely agree.

Some of those questions I asked, such as veg/yield question was just purely a question I wondered because I know some ppl get large yeilds with little veg time, but not everyone can do that but basically was just me wondering.

I understand issues happen, but how can I combat those issues without experiencing them?? Saying an inexperienced grower cant grow a haze with good results is just speculation. In fact, I know its happened before. Hell, Neville wasnt experienced and look at what he did!

Point being, I may not have experience, I may not know as much as you or even most ppl on this forum.

But it doesnt mean I know nothing about any strain. I know the NYC Piff. The shit that came from Washington Heights. If you werent getting from there or your dealer wasnt getting from there - it wasnt the Piff. Point. Blank. Period.

The piff was all over NYC, dont get me wrong. But washington heights, the dominicans specifically, supplied the entire city.

Obviously being in Jersey, any weed that goes through nyc, goes through here. And where I lived happened to be exactly halfway between nyc and philly, so everything traveled right through my town.

Usually id go out to new Brunswick, newark, elizabeth to grab the Piff....same deal with sour diesel and various other strains from nyc. Juicy fruit, Golden Haze, Manhattan Brown, various versions of purple haze, blueberry, blueberry haze, super silver haze, sensi star, sweetooth.....whatever....there wasn't much that couldnt be found....but the piff was the everyday go to....the other stuff was just to switch it up once in a while, but the piff could match or beat any one of the strains around.
 
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