Light times fastest to flower light times?

Kami Samurai

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Yea, I'm not buying it either. Where's the proof? Somebody would've done a study on it already and the info would be out there.
Nobody has though... I checked.
genetics has to have some role in it too. i'm not buying dwc v soil argument either
It’s not hydro vs soil. The plants I kept under 18/6 vs 12/12 both hydro. The 18/6 showed preflowers before the 12/12 has I’ll take pictures right now. Like I said before... twice... this question is about which will reach maturity faster. And whoever said the animal question. Ur an idiot it’s pretty common knowledge that a person who is more active will develop faster then a kid who sits around all day. But let me slow it down. Is 6 more hours of light gonna make the plant grow faster?
 

Kami Samurai

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I liked it better when they just asked riddles when you tried to go over bridges instead of exclaiming blasphemy cause they don’t agree. *shoulder shrug. Maybe someone helpful will come by and say something useful though.
 

Kami Samurai

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this plant started in flower DWC from seed and still no signs of sex none that can be considered definite.

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and this one was ran under veg 18/6 full spectrum LED and showed preflowers almost a week ago when I took 20 clones from her.

but I mean hey it’s all already in my grow journals lol. Please remember I asked a question Didn’t say look at my proven theory. I will run test... look at any one of my journals. Pretty big fan of the scientific method.

other side notes or variables for anyone actually still wondering. I did top and LST the one that is already showing sex. And put her in flower a couple days ago to test her since I took so many clones.
 

Kami Samurai

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Also pretty sure everyone know hydro grows faster?? Soils got the taste and a more natural cannabinoid profile but hydro is faster I’ve done side by sides.
both same strai
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Same strain... planted same day Soil vs Hydro. I’m guessing the one up top will show preflowers first but I guess we can wait and see.

now who else do I have to prove wrong. Pretty sure I’ll have to test my own theory because. Instead of idk or that’s worth a try. I got “No way ur so wrong about thinking this might be true.” You silly grower don’t ask questions we don’t know the answers to?” Damn that’s funny.
 
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Thundercat

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Yea, maybe some strains have a lil different maturation rate, but I wouldn't think it would be significant. I would think though, that if it was the case, people would know about it, and it would already be a thing.
I thought it was well known that different genetics can have drastically different maturation rates. Some plants will show maturity after 4-5 weeks, some take 8+ weeks to reach maturity( sativas specifically ). Some plants will show preflowers at maturity some won't show sex until they actually begin flowering.
 

Kami Samurai

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Btw what reason would I have to promote hydro over soil. I do both both have their own benefits. Did you guys think I have a big steak in the global hydro market. “Buy hydro. It has electrolytes and it’s what plants crave.” Sweet Jesus you guys make it hard to learn.
 
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Kami Samurai

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Reword the question hopefully this thread isn’t ruined now. I want to know if I’m wasting 2 weeks plus with plants in my flower room. If I could just put them in veg and they’d be ready faster that’s what I want to know... Any plant in my flower room wasting weeks if less efficient. So hopefully I get someone actually interested and not people who are just gonna tell me I’m wrong. It’s just a theory but I think if a plants growth rate is faster it will reach sexual maturity faster and there are ways to increase growth rate. Is more light one of them?? Everyone just said no you’re wrong even though I can’t find anything on the subject. So message in a bottle this. I’ll run test post here. Maybe someone knows. I know someone said they think it’s faster maybe I kinda got lost.
I’ll set it up like this...
I’ll have to use a seed form as close to clone as possible. I have BX4 seeds but they’re from Top Dawg and don’t want to waste em so I’ll have to find something at least BX3 that should give me a pretty consistant genetic profile.
Then we will have to have a few groups:
A: Hydroponics 18/6 from seed
B: Soil 18/6 from seed
C: Hydroponic 12/12 from seed
D:Soil 12/12 from seed

we could add E & F for 24/0 but I don’t run 24 so I’d have to build another room and don’t have space right now.

Now if in fact Growth Rate does correlate to maturity there are other variable to test.
just don’t like the idea of me using My limited flowering space I only have 4000 watts of flower available. So if a plant will grow faster in veg that’s space I could fill with other plants.

I know this information wouldn’t be super useful to a lot of us but when your just getting up knowing the fastest route to flower can be quite useful. Or if your breeding and testing this information would be super useful right?? Then you can run through more generations quicker.
But that’s what I always thought Veg first then flower but people say an SOG from seed is the fastest path to harvest correct? They also say 12/12 from seed the plant won’t begin flowering until it reaches sexual maturity. If I’m wrong I’m wrong. Oh well a dead end still glad I asked the question. But prove it :peace:.
 
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Hollatchaboy

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I thought it was well known that different genetics can have drastically different maturation rates. Some plants will show maturity after 4-5 weeks, some take 8+ weeks to reach maturity( sativas specifically ). Some plants will show preflowers at maturity some won't show sex until they actually begin flowering.
Sure. I don't deny that. That's natural, but to push a genetic to maturity faster than what the genetics allow for..... it's not possible, imo. That's just an opinion, I don't know that to be fact, but if it were possible, wouldn't everybody do it?
 
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Kami Samurai

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Sure. I don't deny that. That's natural, but to push a genetic to maturity faster than what the genetics allow for..... it's not possible, imo. That's just an opinion, I don't know that to be fact, but if it were possible, everybody would do it.
I can’t find anything on it though not as directly as I’m asking it.


This is kind of a good on though. The guy in the end basically says it won’t matter. Yeah your plant will get bigger with 18/6 but won’t Speed up your rate of maturity but they do touch on color spectrum as well. Another test would be only give a plant 4 weeks for a strain that take 6 weeks under 12/12 and see if the flip from 18 to 12 forces flower or will it still veg for 2 more weeks? I find this all very interesting though. Not a lot of solid research data. Read the whole thread though if you’re interested same back and forth but man they were way more scientific about it. Reminds me how roll it up used to be... I can’t use my experience as solid proof like I said I’d need something more genetically similar. Think these are F1s so the profile is very broad.
 

RIS

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Btw what reason would I have to promote hydro over soil. I do both both have their own benefits. Did you guys think I have a big steak in the global hydro market. “Buy hydro. It has electrolytes and it’s what plants crave.” Sweet Jesus you guys make it hard to learn.
I see what you did there.
 

amneziaHaze

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Which is faster?
If you flower from seed the plant won’t begin flowering till it reaches sexual maturity correct? Wouldn’t the plant grow faster with the 18 hours on then it would and reach sexual maturity faster? If you already have a veg room would it be quicker to veg under a blue spectrum light to speed up vegetative growth? Or do you use the red to increase flowering hormones? I tried to Google this question and didn’t find anything.
just because she can eat more doesnt mean time goes faster.
 

Kami Samurai

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just because she can eat more doesnt mean time goes faster.
Where is everyone getting this info from? Please link it I’d like to read it...

anyways this is where I’m at from what I’ve read a plant takes around 4 weeks (low side) doing 12/12 from seed but if you veg a plant for 3 weeks it will go into flower immediately after switch several people use this method. Now it could be that the change in light times is what’s important. That that change signals the plant to begin flowering.I guess if you wanted to see which one hits maturity faster without change you’d have to base it off preflowers without a change in light times.
 

Horselover fat

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Nobody knows. People speculate. I, too, doubt there will be much difference. You need to do a study if you want to prove there is a light schedule to get your plants flowering faster from seed. Try it with say 10 seeds each and if there is a difference try it again with more plants. If indeed you have a positive result you now have a method to make your plants go in flower a little faster. Quite a bit of work for pretty much nothing. That's why nobody knows.
 

Star Dog

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Idk why I thought the question was about maturity in terms of is it ready to flip :dunce:

So in regards to hydro being quicker I doubt that's the case but idk for certain, you could put it to the test with a couple of clones?
 

MAGpie81

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I did top and LST the one that is already showing sex. And put her in flower a couple days ago to test her since I took so many clones.
That’s interesting as I think most data/ideas say that injuring or stressing a plant slows down growth/maturity. Sounds like you have a sentient plant that knows what you’re going for and is happy to oblige! :D
 

rkymtnman

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Ur an idiot it’s pretty common knowledge that a person who is more active will develop faster then a kid who sits around all day.
sorry dumbass, but that's not how it works. my point was growth hormones speed up maturity. not whether you play xbox or soccer all day.

next time look in the mirror when you call me an idiot

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rkymtnman

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I thought it was well known that different genetics can have drastically different maturation rates. Some plants will show maturity after 4-5 weeks, some take 8+ weeks to reach maturity( sativas specifically ). Some plants will show preflowers at maturity some won't show sex until they actually begin flowering.
exactly. a strain like Top44 (44 day finish) would have to mature faster than a 15 week haze.
 
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