My latest Vert garden

promedz

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Those are pretty big but it wont yield 7lbs maybe 3-4 that's still good for low plant count..look at these plants going they are 5-6 foot and vegged for months and will probably only yield close to half p each
i had a plant that was 3-4 foot tall and gave me a half a p.. so dont matter how tall your plant is
 

ttystikk

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I like the idea of mixing a concentrate but if I should measure by weight how many grams go into a gallon of RO?
Whatever you want.

Just don't make a concentrated premix with both calcium and epsom salt; they'll react and drop out of solution.

When I make a premix of my base nutrient, I use 100g per gallon. Then if the recipe calls for a ratio of 3:2:1, I can start with a gallon or 100g of the stock solution, then in a separate bucket dissolve 50g of calcium nitrate. The 25g of epsom salt can go in with the mix.
 

pinner420

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Why this number?
I could be all wet but isn't there 15 grams per tbsp in regards to Epson. At least that's what the Google machine said. Is my stoichiometry off? Plus I always round up or down based on if there are numbers 3 6 or 9 that may be in the end result. Not sure why I picked up this habit but its probably from watching all those Tesla videos on the power of this number combination. From what I've gleaned on the topic of magnesium it's pretty tough to over do it; however, it seems none of the manufacturers can seem to muster getting that last 1.5% to 2% mag into their lines so it forces us to squeeze it in. I heard the breeders back in the 60s and 70s used lots of dolimitic lime witch according to the presentation consists of 30% mag. So any lineage that's made it from the era has that mag appetite.
 
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ttystikk

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I could be all wet but isn't there 15 grams per tbsp in regards to Epson. At least that's what the Google machine said. Is my stoichiometry off? Plus I always round up or down based on if there are numbers 3 6 or 9 that may be in the end result. Not sure why I picked up this habit but its probably from watching all those Tesla videos on the power of this number combination. From what I've gleaned on the topic of magnesium it's pretty tough to over do it; however, it seems none of the manufacturers can seem to muster getting that last 1.5% to 2% mag into their lines so it forces us to squeeze it in. I heard the breeders back in the 60s and 70s used lots of dolimitic lime witch according to the presentation consists of 30% mag. So any lineage that's made it from the era has that mag appetite.
I'm not really following the logic why that amount.

15 grams is the standard conversion for a tablespoon of anything.

Two reasons why there isn't a lot of mag in nutrient mixes;
1. Not every plant likes or needs that much mag. High producing plants like tomatoes and cannabis need it, most others don't.

2. Adding it is as easy as using epsom salt and you get useful sulphur too.
 

pinner420

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I'm not really following the logic why that amount.

15 grams is the standard conversion for a tablespoon of anything.

Two reasons why there isn't a lot of mag in nutrient mixes;
1. Not every plant likes or needs that much mag. High producing plants like tomatoes and cannabis need it, most others don't.

2. Adding it is as easy as using epsom salt and you get useful sulphur too.
Ya I didn't know if Google calculated it by the atomic weights of the elements or not. For some reason I thaught it may have varied on that factor. So 97.5 wasn't as sexy as 96; that's what I was really trying to say.
 

curious2garden

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Again grow up child. That might give you an idea of potentially how much weed I’ve grown? I was smoking weed before you were in diapers KIDDO
I’m growing tomatoes using GH trio in 5 gal buckets Kratky bubbler, how much epsom salt would you recommend and how often? Sorry for jacking the thread.
^^^^^ that's a real howler, a pot growing god that can't grow a tomato :)
 

ttystikk

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Lead, water, sand - a tablespoon of all weigh 15 grams. Easy peasy nutrient formula's.
The fuck it, a tablespoon of everything ttystikk approach :lol:
Water is the standard and even stock solutions aren't heavy enough to make much difference.

If you're using lead as a nutrient, that might explain a few things, lol
 
Just wanted to share a few pictures of my latest round of trees. These are 5 weeks in, I'll take them to almost 10 weeks. I should be pushing close to 7 lbs out of this run. 4 plants, 5000w.

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No problem. I'm running a top feed/recirculating hydro system. I honestly don't know what it would be called. It's pretty close to RDWC but my roots aren't sitting in water, the water runs through the root system and then drains back to my reservoir. My water pump is on the same timer as my lights, if the lights are on the plants are being fed. Lights go out, pump stops and the roots get their dry cycle. They seem to love this.

I took a 3 gal bucket, drilled a shit load of holes in the bottom and made myself a basic homemade net pot. The 3 gal bucket is filled with freshly washed lava rock, and then I put it inside a 5gal bucket. This leaves like a 5"-6" space for the roots to fill. I like this, because when it comes time to move plants from the veg room to flower room, I just grab the 3gal bucket pull it out from the the 5gal bucket, carry it into the flower room and drop it into the same system in there.

View attachment 3605041Here is a good picture to show the buckets in the veg room. The 3gal is stacked on top of the 5gal. I have 2 stages of growth in veg because I'm running 2 flowering rooms. So they need separate systems with their own reservoir to control the food to each stage.View attachment 3605042 This is me pulling the 3gal pot out, showing the root mass that grows between the buckets.

Because I'm running 2 flowering rooms it's kind of like running a perpetual grow. I keep my rooms 4-5 weeks apart (sometimes shit happens, and the schedule gets bumped around). Once plants go into flower I wait 2 weeks to cut clones, 2 weeks to root, then Veg for 5-6 weeks and keep the cycle going.
NOTE: If this doesn't make sense and you would like clarification just ask. I'm stoned.

As for nutrients I'm running GH micro, grow, bloom. And the odd dose of Calmag. I flush my reservoirs once every 2 weeks unless there is an issue. I also give a weekly H2o2 dose, just to keep everything sterile.
What a nice set-up!! Beautiful!
 

GrOwThMoNgeR

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If I missed something or there are any other questions, just fire away. I'll be happy to try and answer them.
Nice looking very. I saw a post on vert recently and have been contemplating building trellises but yours reminds me of how we used to do it back in the early 2000's with hanging bare bulbs in the basement running the squirrel cage fan exhaust straight into the sewage.
 
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