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Hobbes

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For the past two years I've been doing a complete defoliation, the grow has been good.

Last grow I did a small test to determine harvest depending on defoliation style. I found that there's little difference.

So this grow I'm going all in with the leaves.

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This is the healthiest grow I've ever done - Lush, lots of green. I'm using a nutrient mix called "Success Nutrients". I get a kick out of the name. because of a TV show in eastern canada called "The Trailer Park Boys". One of the leads, Julian, is always starting a business and calling it Success Autobody or Succdess this or that. It's funny if you' ve seen the show.



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Hobbes

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My brother was checking out my grow and he was astounded at how lush the plants were. They're at week 4 of flower and I must say that I've never grown a crop so lush green half way through flower. There are a couple of leaves turning yellow at the bottom of the grow.

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Exceptional early budding.

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I didn't expect the extra growth by not defoliating, the extra height caught me unawares.

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Hobbes

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what strain is it my friend..
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East Coast Sour Diesel by Dr Greenthumb. Got great reviews from RIU member Dr Gruber.

I'm really surprised at how tall the plants grew after being topped 3 times for 8 colas and the side branches that caught up to the canopy.

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Herb & Suds

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East Coast Sour Diesel by Dr Greenthumb. Got great reviews from RIU member Dr Gruber.

I'm really surprised at how tall the plants grew after being topped 3 times for 8 colas and the side branches that caught up to the canopy.

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I am glad you’re happy with your selection but my first thought was
can you name one Dr Greenthumb strain Dr Gruber doesn’t love?
Just saying
 

Antidote Man

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Thanks for the info. I have a pack of ECSD from greenthumb in the mail headed my way. Going to buy Reaervoir seeds version next month..

And have you grown his G13? And were do i find Gruber to see his reports? T y
 

Hobbes

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Thanks for the info. I have a pack of ECSD from greenthumb in the mail headed my way. Going to buy Reaervoir seeds version next month..

And have you grown his G13? And were do i find Gruber to see his reports? T y
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I grew Doc's G13 and wasn't that impressed with the smoke. Good yield.

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Hobbes

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Dr Gruber:

Grower's Comments-

I haven't felt this good about a grow in a long time. While the plants weren't in 100% perfect condition and health, I would say I was in the 90% range. They were all fed with Jack's Classic Citrus Blend, (20-10-20) almost the entire way through, with some timely doses of Jacks Bloom Booster(10-30-20), and always around 250ppm for each feeding. I had very minimal leaf tip damage and the leaves stayed a healthy green throughout flower with a nice natural yellow fade at the end.

ECSD is known for throwing early and late flower nanners but these were completely nanner free until the last few days, and then only a few showed up.

I haven't found a single seed in the entire 4 plant batch.

I was actually hoping for a few seeds to store away but its just as well that I didn't.

Easy to grow with a great yield.

Wunderbar!

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(122) 1 Plant = 2 Pounds- Chemdawg X G13 (Greenthumb Seeds) | Page 9 | Rollitup

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Antidote Man

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Throw some harvest photos up of that g13!

I saw the photos on his site. Im a lightweight ane curious if the buds really get that big... also curious if youve grown his Alaskan TF...
 

Hobbes

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Throw some harvest photos up of that g13!

I saw the photos on his site. Im a lightweight ane curious if the buds really get that big... also curious if youve grown his Alaskan TF...
I haven't grown ATF, just Big Laughing, Blue Dream in veg, Sour Diesel in flower, Endless Sky, G13, GG#4, Headband, Jazz, Cheese.

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Hobbes

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These are EC Sour Diesel, 6 weeks into flower and a full 4 weeks left until harvest.

The taller colas are going to be monstrous, I'm going to harvest in two sessions - one for the top colas then wait two or three weeks until the lower buds get some light and ripen more.

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I let them veg too long, i wasn't expecting the stretch the first 3 weeks of flower.

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J. Rocket

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its a whole battery of ganga rockets...waiting to blow you away! :eyesmoke:
lush landscape, looks beautiful.
how many plants in there?
 

Cynister

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These are EC Sour Diesel, 6 weeks into flower and a full 4 weeks left until harvest.

The taller colas are going to be monstrous, I'm going to harvest in two sessions - one for the top colas then wait two or three weeks until the lower buds get some light and ripen more.

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I let them veg too long, i wasn't expecting the stretch the first 3 weeks of flower.

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Looks great! Can't wait to see how they finish.
 

Antidote Man

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Excited to see what I'm in for. And Doc's diesel is the original east coast clone s1, correct? I'm purchasing some of rez's sour diesel in a few weeks....

and the 400$ for 10 g13s are still on my list. I've never paid that much for seeds and so I'm kind of nervous....

appreciate all your info
 

GangaDownUnder

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I'm full whack in the NOT defoliating camp. I've always thought defoliation was kind of stupid. People always going on about "light to budsites" as if the buds are the leaves or as if the buds only grow if the leaves right next to them get light. Bahahaha. No. Or everyone cutting all the leaves down low since they "don't recieve enough light". Lol. Again, no. If its not pitch black down there and not dying then yes its receiving "enough" light. Any exyra light at all is a positive and any extra leaves you have will help catch it and add to final weight. It really is simple.
 

Kassiopeija

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If its not pitch black down there and not dying then yes its receiving "enough" light.
No it is not. The indoor light diminishes way too strong with distance and the Light Compensation Point subtracts you ~63ppfd from your potential growth. Giving you tiny sucker buds that down. And why? Due to a response to the light setting and leaves not doing enough photosynthesis down there which would generate both a source (sugar & nutes) and sink (water & nutes) and this is driven linearily with net photosynthesis. And that differs just too much locally.

Otherwise they would grow big, we have already seen this here proven by a fellow member that used a bunch of sub- & intracanopy lighting devices.

The canopy is so dense taking some top fanleaves away prevents this excessive stretching of lower shoots. These also can generate their own food now. The lightbeam reaches further down and spreads more (90-120°), thinning out the number of photons. The direct light reaches a higher surface area, and light interception runs more efficient. The tops already have a higher PPFD so what do they need fanleave support. You get better bagappeal this way, too, and better airflow, and not these supercritical big mainbuds that often catch botrytis.
 
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