Oven door tek Vs. Still air box, opinions or experience

Hello,
I tried researching this topic and found that people have strong feelings on it on other forums. Some say it's crap to use the oven door and your just as good innocullating on the counter, while other say they've done it for years with high success rate. Couldn't really find anything negative about a still air box except that people don't want to build one or spend money on it, which seems like a poor excuse considering the time your going to put into a successful grow. Yet, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and various teks used for successful inoculation exist . I even read about a guy who did it in his car for the still air!
Anyways, if you have the time to voice your feelings, please do so. I'm curios what the roll it up crowd has to say.
(Please excuse me if this has been a thread already, I searched but couldn't find)

The oven tek is a bad idea. Def go with a SAB. What you said is exactly correct, peeps don't build a Sab because they are cheap or lazy. If you are serious at all then build a box dude. The thing you.must remember with a still air box is exactly that-STILL AIR!! You must let the air in the box settle before you work I. It, all the nastys will settle giving you clean air to work in... Watch the way you breath, and move with finesse.

Thank you sister!
Was starting to think I asked a question so ridiculous, a response wasn't even merited!
I did end up building a SAB and inoculating 6 jars and 2 spawn bags. Now...just waiting. Tick-tock
thanks for breathing tips and moving well.
Be quick but don't hurry the great Coach Wooden would say.
Appreciate it.

MjAeJdIiK said:

The oven tek is a bad idea. Def go with a SAB. What you said is exactly correct, peeps don't build a Sab because they are cheap or lazy. If you are serious at all then build a box dude. The thing you.must remember with a still air box is exactly that-STILL AIR!! You must let the air in the box settle before you work I. It, all the nastys will settle giving you clean air to work in... Watch the way you breath, and move with finesse.

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After spraying Lysol, Oust, or bleach and water mix, around and in the SAB,do you advise wiping the bottom of the box down for those "nasties", or just start woking after air settles?

MidnightXTRCTS said:

After spraying Lysol, Oust, or bleach and water mix, around and in the SAB,do you advise wiping the bottom of the box down for those "nasties", or just start woking after air settles?

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I whipe the box down with Lysol or 70% iso inside and out, then I carefully load up the box with whatever tools and supplies I need, then I bomb the box with an air sanitizer, I use ozium, then I let the air settle for a good 5 mins before I begin my work. You want to move fast and deliberate, but you don't want to stir up any air currents, and you don't want to be fumbleing around, finesse is key. Do a few dry runs for practice before the real thing if you want. Good luck. Post some pics!

you actually aren't trying to kill anything in your SAB so anything chemical isn't really needed, all you need is soapy water sprayed on the sides of the box and threw the air in the box close it up let sit for 10 mins good to go, feel free to spray oust/Lysol whatever along with it and remember anytime your hand leaves that box alcohol your gloves back up before putting them back in.

You still want to kill nasties in your SAB, it HIGHLY increases your chances of success, especially when you are first starting out.
Every time you bring your hands in and out you will be bringing unwanted nasties in with you, that's just how it is, why wouldn't you want to kill it, or at least have a very good chance of killing it?
My success is always much greater when I sanitize ime, but do what you want.

MidnightXTRCTS said:

Hello,
I tried researching this topic and found that people have strong feelings on it on other forums. Some say it's crap to use the oven door and your just as good innocullating on the counter, while other say they've done it for years with high success rate. Couldn't really find anything negative about a still air box except that people don't want to build one or spend money on it, which seems like a poor excuse considering the time your going to put into a successful grow. Yet, there's more than one way to skin a cat, and various teks used for successful inoculation exist . I even read about a guy who did it in his car for the still air!
Anyways, if you have the time to voice your feelings, please do so. I'm curios what the roll it up crowd has to say.
(Please excuse me if this has been a thread already, I searched but couldn't find)

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You know. I never heard of this tek until this thread. I don't think that the ODTek is a good idea. I've always made a SAB. Simply cuz they work. And are easy and cheap to make. I mean you can go all super intricate like a shadowbox 2.0. Which I actually brought all the supplies for including the tyvek arms. Or just get a $7 clear tote cut a coupla arm holes. You can even get some 3mil plastic to put flaps that fall to cover the holes. But I always do what you guys do. Clean the box. Sanitize. Lysol. Alchohol.
Growin stuff is too much fun. I'm even considering investing into components for a chemistry set for Christ's sake.

As Mijae originally said, it's all about technique. The smoother and swifter you manage your affairs the less you have to worry about.

If you are confident you can do much of your work in the open air.

I don't like flame sterilization. The flame sets up currents. When doing micro propagation work (where you use the widest assortment of instruments and use them repetitively) , I rarely even use an air flow hood.

Mushroom work is usually one off oror so.

I can have three of each instrument and keep them in 90 percent iso. Most times, so long as I don't touch something contaminated I'm fine.

People flame their syringes. I never found that necessary when I did that sort of work because only the outside of the syringe might get contamination and those spores rarely fall off the syringe.

Just have some spares in alcohol.

And don't breath

Thanks for tips everyone. Roll it up crowd is helpful as always.
Went with a still air box, flaps, no breathing
Learned to wait and be patient, and
Viola!
it has begun.
Much props to Roger Rabbit.
That man shares his knowledge about mycology.

I use a cardboard box. People come check out my setup (300 qt jars spwan, about 25 66qt monos), and i always wait for that let me see your flow hood question. I think i have gotten 8 or something jars contaminate on me in the last year. Then i show them my fucked up cardboard sab box and they all say that wont work, your fucking cheap ass and what not.

Then they go build a fucking expensive sab out of a tote and its so fucking uncomfortable to work in.

3 months later i rock up at their place and ask what happened to the plastic sab and they all reply "your box works better."

ill post a pic if someone really wants to see it.

i change them out every 2 months cause they loose shape from getting wet and drying out all the time.

hope this info can help someone

butterbudface said:

I use a cardboard box. People come check out my setup (300 qt jars spwan, about 25 66qt monos), and i always wait for that let me see your flow hood question. I think i have gotten 8 or something jars contaminate on me in the last year. Then i show them my fucked up cardboard sab box and they all say that wont work, your fucking cheap ass and what not.

Then they go build a fucking expensive sab out of a tote and its so fucking uncomfortable to work in.

3 months later i rock up at their place and ask what happened to the plastic sab and they all reply "your box works better."

ill post a pic if someone really wants to see it.

i change them out every 2 months cause they loose shape from getting wet and drying out all the time.

hope this info can help someone

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My first SABs were cardboard, plastic wrap, and duct tape from around the house. I even cut out flaps from a heavy duty trash bag that I took my old job. If it works. It works.

DaSprout said:

My first SABs were cardboard, plastic wrap, and duct tape from around the house. I even cut out flaps from a heavy duty trash bag that I took my old job. If it works. It works.

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PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF MY SAB

sorry capslock