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WindyCityKush

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Strayfox Testers - Lemon Alien Dawg x LA Pure Kush @day 52. All organic, water and OG biowar. 3 plants per pot, in 15 gallons of soil in a 2x4. Looks like this might have hop latent viroid. Grown from seed. The neighboring pot has root aphids, but I haven’t treated these at all. Loud sweetness? Its kind of a milky sweetness, not your typical hybrid berry sweetness. Not gassy at all. Running around 92-96F with LED's @11hours.

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Looks like and from your description, smells like the PK. From my experience with a pure Kush leaning pheno, they throw those weird foxtail golf balls of marshmallow/ cereal sweet fire. Looks great
 

Sqwee

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You are right. I AM thinking of TMV.
It looks like TMV, I've found conflicting info saying TMV has and hasn't been found in cannabis. There are also a bunch of other types of mosaic virus. I just trashed a bunch of plants that I believe had it, it started on one and then spread to two other plants that didn't have it after I took clones from them without sterilizing in-between taking clones from the affected plant. It then spread to a healthy plant I moved from a veg tent to the flower tent with the suspected TMV infected plants. I then tested rubbing a cut leaf from the plant that started it all on a clean clone of a different strain and within 3 days that clone had it as well.

It wasn't a genetics, nute deficieny, PH or environment issue, I had to treat it like TMV despite some people saying TMV doesn't affect cannabis, it was behaving just like it.
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BigDavid

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It looks like TMV, I've found conflicting info saying TMV has and hasn't been found in cannabis. There are also a bunch of other types of mosaic virus. I just trashed a bunch of plants that I believe had it, it started on one and then spread to two other plants that didn't have it after I took clones from them without sterilizing in-between taking clones from the affected plant. It then spread to a healthy plant I moved from a veg tent to the flower tent with the suspected TMV infected plants. I then tested rubbing a cut leaf from the plant that started it all on a clean clone of a different strain and within 3 days that clone had it as well.

It wasn't a nute deficieny, PH or environment issue, I had to treat it like TMV despite some people saying TMV doesn't affect cannabis, it was behaving just like it.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Wow good job working this one out for yourself. I’m not sure I’m ready to abandon my library but I did chop a few plants showing it. If I have to start with fresh soil, I’m screwed.
 

JojoThug

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It looks like TMV, I've found conflicting info saying TMV has and hasn't been found in cannabis. There are also a bunch of other types of mosaic virus. I just trashed a bunch of plants that I believe had it, it started on one and then spread to two other plants that didn't have it after I took clones from them without sterilizing in-between taking clones from the affected plant. It then spread to a healthy plant I moved from a veg tent to the flower tent with the suspected TMV infected plants. I then tested rubbing a cut leaf from the plant that started it all on a clean clone of a different strain and within 3 days that clone had it as well.

It wasn't a genetics, nute deficieny, PH or environment issue, I had to treat it like TMV despite some people saying TMV doesn't affect cannabis, it was behaving just like it.
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Who are the parents? I have a bunch of stray gear
 

Sqwee

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Who are the parents? I have a bunch of stray gear
Oh no, don't worry, these weren't Stray Fox gear plants. It all started with basically a bag seed I got from someone I know that grows then spread to my Bodhi and Useful plants. It looks like TMV but could be all sorts of different viruses like CMV, HMV, Tomato ringspot virus, Tobacco ringspot virus, or Tobacco streak virus.

While researching TMV I found conflicting info about if it affects cannabis or not. Articles and people on forums will say plants display these symptoms but there have been no positive test results for TMV in cannabis. How much of that is due to growers like me that don't have time or money to waste getting these plants tested and just toss them?

There was a study in 1971, Hartowicz et al. that screened 22 common plant viruses and found that over half of them were able to infect Cannabis, but only 8 actually caused symptoms. TMV was one of them and they found it indeed did infect cannabis but did not causes noticeable symptoms in the infected cultivar they tested, suggesting cannabis can be a carrier but is non symptomatic. So that conflicts with the claim it has never tested positive in cannabis before and it could be cultivar specific if it displays symptoms or not.

Sorry if I gave the impression that this was Stray Fox gear I was having problems with, I actually popped a couple Hollywood Skunk to replace some of the plants I lost.
 

JojoThug

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Oh no, don't worry, these weren't Stray Fox gear plants. It all started with basically a bag seed I got from someone I know that grows then spread to my Bodhi and Useful plants. It looks like TMV but could be all sorts of different viruses like CMV, HMV, Tomato ringspot virus, Tobacco ringspot virus, or Tobacco streak virus.

While researching TMV I found conflicting info about if it affects cannabis or not. Articles and people on forums will say plants display these symptoms but there have been no positive test results for TMV in cannabis. How much of that is due to growers like me that don't have time or money to waste getting these plants tested and just toss them?

There was a study in 1971, Hartowicz et al. that screened 22 common plant viruses and found that over half of them were able to infect Cannabis, but only 8 actually caused symptoms. TMV was one of them and they found it indeed did infect cannabis but did not causes noticeable symptoms in the infected cultivar they tested, suggesting cannabis can be a carrier but is non symptomatic. So that conflicts with the claim it has never tested positive in cannabis before and it could be cultivar specific if it displays symptoms or not.

Sorry if I gave the impression that this was Stray Fox gear I was having problems with, I actually popped a couple Hollywood Skunk to replace some of the plants I lost.
All good bro
 

Giggsy70

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Need to get working through Strayfox's gear. (2) Frosty D-Sour D x starfighter f1, Purple peach- Purple Kandahar x starfighter f1, Soul Fighter- dragonsoul (bodhi's cut) x starfighter f1, Slurriskunk- IHG'S Slurricane x Iraqi (Ranya)/Michigan skunk, Cali-O black- Cali-O x Afghani black skunk, (2) Purple Bubba rift- Bubba katsu/alien rift x purple kandahar, 21 candles-fruity pebbles #21 x roman candles (Williams Wonder x starfighter f1), Happy place- Tahoe og DVG cut x ronnie barrett, Strawberry honey- gg#4 (Josey's cut) x ronnie barrett and Sour Blue haze-GG#4 × blueberry temple.
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WindyCityKush

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Day 55 F pics of Lemon Splash x Monkey Dog
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All 3 phenos come down next week. We have about 30 % amber on these now. Smells are gnarly on the pheno in the last pic, insane candy lemon funk. And I don’t have a clone ‍But the other two are just as nice and I have cuts of those. Both providing a citrusy mango classic weed funk. Smoke reports to come in 3 weeks
 
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WindyCityKush

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Day 55 on 3 phenos of Tres Banger x Iraqi Mintz. 2 really tall Tres Banger phenos and a medium height colorful Iraqi Mintz pheno. FC7F4633-94E1-4550-964D-C184769B4C02.jpeg
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sour face melting stank on TB #1 in pics 2-3. Gets a little bit of color with some cooler temps. 1st pic is TB x IM #2 and she is fatter than fat up top. Had to tie her up. She’s loud as well but not like the #1. The last pheno has more of a kushy doughy smell with no sour at all. Smoke report in 3 weeks as well
 

jdoorn14

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While researching TMV I found conflicting info about if it affects cannabis or not. Articles and people on forums will say plants display these symptoms but there have been no positive test results for TMV in cannabis. How much of that is due to growers like me that don't have time or money to waste getting these plants tested and just toss them?
TBH I wouldn't expect a small grower to be the first to spring for testing on something like this. I would, however, expect that larger grow operations would get infected via similar sources and have lab testing done so they know what they're actually dealing with to properly resolve it, especially if it's something that's commonly occurring.

That said, so many new growers who read grow weed easy (or any of the other sites that have scraped info from there) think they have TMV, when it's more often something simple (ph, watering practices, etc). It's becoming almost too easy to piss on someone more experienced who thinks they might legitimately have TMV.
 

Sqwee

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TBH I wouldn't expect a small grower to be the first to spring for testing on something like this. I would, however, expect that larger grow operations would get infected via similar sources and have lab testing done so they know what they're actually dealing with to properly resolve it, especially if it's something that's commonly occurring.

That said, so many new growers who read grow weed easy (or any of the other sites that have scraped info from there) think they have TMV, when it's more often something simple (ph, watering practices, etc). It's becoming almost too easy to piss on someone more experienced who thinks they might legitimately have TMV.
Yea, we shouldn't say for certain its TMV until there is an actual positive test in a plant showing symptoms. Studies have shown cannabis can carry it, only debate is on if it causes symptoms or not.

Without testing it I don't know for certain what my plants had. I first thought it was vareigation, when the leaves started to twist I tried treating it as a deficieny issue, that did not improve it and when it spread I started viewing it as a virus. When I was able to spread it to a healthy cut that never came in contact with the sick plants I was convinced it was something bad.

Anyone that thinks they have it or some other virus should make sure they rule everything else out first. I'd hate anyone to freak out and hastily cut their plants.
 

Kaliko

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Day 55 on 3 phenos of Tres Banger x Iraqi Mintz. 2 really tall Tres Banger phenos and a medium height colorful Iraqi Mintz pheno. View attachment 4951540
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sour face melting stank on TB #1 in pics 2-3. Gets a little bit of color with some cooler temps. 1st pic is TB x IM #2 and she is fatter than fat up top. Had to tie her up. She’s loud as well but not like the #1. The last pheno has more of a kushy doughy smell with no sour at all. Smoke report in 3 weeks as well
Mine are just about there also. 1 tomorrow and 1 a few days later. I only had 2 females out of the 5 . I wish I had alot more to go through. These things are stinky to the extreme in my opinion . Both of mine got real tall with pretty decent colas . Alot like yours. Mine got burned by a day of the ac not coming on. Fried all the leaves but the buds are still ok. I know they both get another shot with how they smelland yeild even fried ! Yours look how mine should Nice Job !Screenshot_20210727-001439_Gallery.jpg
 

Kaliko

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Finito ! Thanks to @strayfox for allowing me to run these. I found what I would call a keeper in all 3 packs which is finominal in my humble opinion.
Tres Banger x Iraqi Mintz . This 1 bleeds fuel, chem, some funk and back again . Just a gas lovers dream. Takes me back to when the OGs first started getting around . All gas No brakes . She ran long 10 weeks and 2 days but I am sure it will get better next round. Amazing plants that clone super easy and veg into giants . This mix is a winner
Screenshot_20210804-221550_Gallery.jpgCrybaby skunk x Chem D. SHE yeilds exceptionally well and has all the gas and some jet fuel attributes to her . Gets your body warm like taking a shot. Screenshot_20210804-221345_Gallery.jpg
CRY BABY SKUNK X SOUR d. IS THE CLOSEST TO SKUNK but still mostly just gas that sticks to your tongue. She is pretty sour og dominant. Dense golfball sized nugs everywhere. Screenshot_20210804-222257_Gallery.jpgthese are my selections from the hunt. I only ran 5 tres banger x iraqi mintz and got 3 females out of the 5 . 3 crybaby skunk x sour d.( Fems) 2 were very heavy dank and the third pushes arm sized colas but unfortunately lacked any terpz ( that is almost always the case in my experience is that the biggest budding plants are usually the least terp amount)and 3 crybaby x chem d. Of which 1 was a clear standout with almost white buds and you guessed it chem dank and no fruit . All 3 strains are worth running if you are into gas and heavy dank ? I personally would love to run more of the tres banger x Iraqi mintz if I had the opportunity. Thanks again @strayfox ( this man sent these too me because I didn't find what I wanted in some different seeds I bought of his , he had zero obligation to do so other than wanting to make me happy ) You sir have done just that ! Screenshot_20210731-104509_Gallery.jpgtres banger x iraqi mintz 11 week pheno a little more hairy but she is lights out !
 
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