superthrive foliar feeding

newbiebob

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i have a friend who has been growing Nirvana Northern Lights from seed for a while. He recently made up a solution containing Fox Farm grow big, big bloom and superthrive. the solution was meant for clones. Their were only about 1/4 tsp of both grow big and big bloom and about 6 drops of superthrive in about a litter of water. He forgot that he put the superthrive in the solution and used it for a foliar spray on his plants that were in week 4 of vegg (from seed). He sprayed the plants two days in a row just before the lights came on. The plants began to show sex on the 3rd day. These seeds are not autoflower and he has been growing the same seeds from the same order from nirvana for about a year. The plants sexed without any change in lights or light schedule. Has anyone ever heard of this happening before?
thanks
 

Give Me

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I myself am a newb, I am curious to see what replies you get, subd. I myself use superthrive as well along with FF (Not using FF yet) and recently noticed a few of the kids were hitting puberty early? Seeds bagseed (using till I figure out how Not to kill them)origins unknown. I know my PH has been high up till recent (noticed before-fixing now ) Temp steady between 68-72F Lights (8x26wCFL-all blue) Soil Pro mix I try to be consistent but being they r about the same age and why r some sexing like a week earlier than others never mind the fact that they r showing at 4-6wks? Oh well thanks again 4 the post. :)
 

SCCA

Active Member
it is not uncommon for plants from seed to show pre-flowers. i have used superthrive in my foliar sprays for years, i love the stuff. like most things with cannabis less is better. there are a lot of amino acids in superthrive and you dont want to give your plants too much of these, but a little here and there works wonders.
 

canefan

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I use the stuff and have for as long as I have been growing things. Super Thrive is great for plant stress, helps speed cloning which I believe is because it helps to relieve the stress of the cutting. I won't swear by bigger or earlier flowers, so many things to consider when talking about this subject. I am currently out and have been this entire cycle do to me spilling their big bottle, but the wife is in the States now is has a bottle packed.
As far as showing sex so early, you guess is as good as mine. 4 weeks from seed is really a short period of time for most strains I am aware. Foliar feeding with superthrive is great and I certainly notice a difference with it, not a huge difference but lets just say a more vibrant color and stature.
Happy Growing and Merry Christmas
 

The Ruiner

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definitely should be showing sex by week 4 of veg...thats a sign he needs to flip 12/12 right quick...they are telling him "HEY!! pay attention and flower us"
 

newbiebob

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lol
thanks guys. I have since turned to flower. I lost on to root rot. the rest are doing great. Few more months and all will be good
 

farmboss

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superthrive, B-vitamins, mostly for roots.

Foliar application of a root stimulant is the most ineffective, ass-backwards way you can use it.

but if doing it the WRONG way works for you, then by all means, keep doing it wrong.
 

newbiebob

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lol
thanks farmboss you are a big help

I am so excited to know that there are helfull people like you to guide people through the MJ aggricultural process. I do not know what i would do without Golden nuggets of wisdom like you just shat on us.
 

farmboss

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i think it saying a foliar spray is just a way for the company to get you to waste more, and buy another bottle faster.

it honestly doesn't do that much.

and again its really for the roots. so put it in the soil, not the leaves.

seriously, i use it, but i'm not spraying it anywhere.
 

drgr33n

Active Member
I don't login very often but for such a misinformed post I feel like I have to comment :D Superthrive's active ingredients are Vit B1 & 1-Napthyl acetic acid. NAA won't really do much when used as a foliar spray. I have read it can improve chlorophyll in the leafs and the protein content in seeds in cannabis. I have also read that growers have used NAA to promote fruit setting in SOME plants. I wouldn't recommend using auxin's in the first three weeks of flower as it's also responsible for cell elongation and you can end up with some tall, lanky plants :D.

Vitamin B1 however is produced in the foliage of plants and transported down to the root system where it has an effect on root growth and development. Vitamin B1 is in most foliar feed solutions on the market today :D

More info ? Here's some further reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superthrive

http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_articles/plant_hormones.html

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFkQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aup.edu.pk%2Fsj_pdf%2FSTIMULATORY%2520EFFECT%2520OF%2520NAA%2520(NAPHTHALENE%2520ACETIC%2520ACID).pdf&rct=j&q=foilar%20feeding%201-Naphthaleneacetic%20acid&ei=kex5TofoGuam0QWT2e3OAQ&usg=AFQjCNE9BU06ww44ip_3DeE-6j3JNNxtAA&sig2=vU5EgWqw5V0x2V_k9SymSw&cad=rja

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
 
I don't login very often but for such a misinformed post I feel like I have to comment :D Superthrive's active ingredients are Vit B1 & 1-Napthyl acetic acid. NAA won't really do much when used as a foliar spray. I have read it can improve chlorophyll in the leafs and the protein content in seeds in cannabis. I have also read that growers have used NAA to promote fruit setting in SOME plants. I wouldn't recommend using auxin's in the first three weeks of flower as it's also responsible for cell elongation and you can end up with some tall, lanky plants :D.

Vitamin B1 however is produced in the foliage of plants and transported down to the root system where it has an effect on root growth and development. Vitamin B1 is in most foliar feed solutions on the market today :D

More info ? Here's some further reading

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superthrive

http://www.quickgrow.com/gardening_articles/plant_hormones.html

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CFkQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aup.edu.pk%2Fsj_pdf%2FSTIMULATORY%2520EFFECT%2520OF%2520NAA%2520(NAPHTHALENE%2520ACETIC%2520ACID).pdf&rct=j&q=foilar%20feeding%201-Naphthaleneacetic%20acid&ei=kex5TofoGuam0QWT2e3OAQ&usg=AFQjCNE9BU06ww44ip_3DeE-6j3JNNxtAA&sig2=vU5EgWqw5V0x2V_k9SymSw&cad=rja

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Naphthaleneacetic_acid
Hello, my name is Joe. I'm new to Cannabis Culture internet forums. You're pose not only inspired me to log In. I actually finally made an account. I just wanted to so badly add that I have personally tried this during my plants Growth phase. It does yield results. Although you are correct about auxin use, and I would like to add that 'playing' with plant hormones can be so complicated. I would also like to add that a plethora of compounds are produced in the foliage and transported down to the roots. This is also true for a mix of hormones that effect Root growth. "Rooting hormones" and all hormones usually have secondary effects, when the levels of the plants other hormones are considered.
ANYONE trying this without a little bit of fulvic acid Say 150ppm. The fulvic acid allows the VitB and all kinds of minerals to absorb directly into the Cells of the plant.
Also I would only add maybe 100-200ppm of SuperThrive. (That's if I was going to use this stuff.)
** I am not a plant scientist or soil scientist. I went to Lawrence Technological University for Electrical Engineering. A private school here in Michigan. After college, I became fascinated with the Angelic design of plants, and life in general. Over the years Iv learned A lot, but here is a direct word to the wise for everyone else reading.
1)If you have a lot of Investment in your garden, and this crop has to be one of your crops to start returning on that investment. Then my advise is to let the plant make it's own hormones. Because you could end up with some undesired results. My other advice to you is to not use Thrive for this. But to instead just use the Fulvic with some Kelp extract. (Of course yucca) (TRUST ME, that's how I currently do it. 1 time a week, untill flowers appear :)
FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THESE PLANTS REGARDLESS OF AN INVESTMENT. Then Rock on my Grow brothers! Education is right around the corner for you. Hormones can be tricky, but follow someone's Tek, that will be a good starting point for you. Check out SST, FPJ, Pre Malted Grains. Aloe vera, willow, Etc. Some really cool results can be achieved. Can be hit or miss tho depending on strain and Nuts and development stage and current stress levels, aka drought and infestations, temperature, Etc.
Any way, I'm probably wrong about it all... Lol
 
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