The risks I took were calculated. Boy I suck at math.

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Moe71

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I have no idea what I’m doing. I’m in Southern Ontario and have two plants in the ground. (Platinum Kush Breath). On August 26 one of them blew over in a storm while we were out - no broken limbs, but majority of the roots were exposed. I didn’t notice until the morning. Got it upright and secured to the best of my ability. It has never fully recovered and now the sad looking plant’s leaves are turning purple. We’ve had a rainy couple weeks and the other plant had powdery mildew on the lower half of the plant. Let me repeat myself. I do not know what I’m doing! I decided to remove some of the tainted leaves and sprayed a large number of the remaining ones with baking soda, Dawn dish soap and water. I’m pretty sure my mixture was too strong because the edges of any leaves I spayed are burnt. Any suggestions on what I might do to help the stressed purple plant? Should I be doing anything to correct my foliage spray disaster? Any help would be appreciated. 6723D640-B09C-4885-BD6F-1C62396268F8.jpeg
 

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I too am in Southern Ontario and congrats, those look great!

The weather has been shite, and I was fighting some PM myself. I'm no pro and I'm sure they will be along shortly, but defoliate as much of the bottom lower stuff as you can to get some air in there. I used a 75% water 25% milk spray; it didn't kill it all but it helped a LOT!
 
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I considered the milk spray. Looked in the fridge and noticed I was down to my last bag of milk. I looked in the cupboard and saw that I had lots of baking soda. Cereal and coffee for breakfast won the milk battle. I should have just gone to Timmie’s for breakfast. Hindsight is 20/20 I suppose.
 
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Wow those are impressive! Mine are just limping along…mind you I’m only on step four of “how to kill a plant.” I keep waiting for them to bulk up but can’t say I’m very hopeful. Again, thanks for the milk suggestion. I’ll give it a whirl next time I encounter the problem (three consecutive rain days in next week’s forecast so it’s probably inevitable).
 
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buckaclark said:
its nature are you asking if you can change nature?its a plant its essence is god so noo
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So I’m thinking your advising to leave well enough alone. The plant turning purple is nothing to stress about. As for my baking soda error - the damage is done and it will (hopefully) recover. Seems the more I fuss, the worse I make things. I will carry on as I was before the weather started turning. If I see powdery mildew reappear I’ll try the milk and water spray.
 
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Moe71 said:
So I’m thinking your advising to leave well enough alone. The plant turning purple is nothing to stress about. As for my baking soda error - the damage is done and it will (hopefully) recover. Seems the more I fuss, the worse I make things. I will carry on as I was before the weather started turning. If I see powdery mildew reappear I’ll try the milk and water spray.
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Sometimes not always purple can indicate mobile nutrient deficiencies...if it started from the bottom of the plant then worked it's way up it could be a mobile nutrient deficiencyMy two cents.jpg
 
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IF and only if the purple started from the bottom and we are sure....then I'd use a liquid fish foliar spray that will be readily available for the plant...and maybe top dress something rich is phosphorus...your in flower as it is...and I'm assuming your a organic gardener...bone meal, rock phosphate, manure.


Oh yeah I got like B+ in math right now lol
 
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The leaves aren’t as vibrant as they were before the fall. A lot were damaged and were removed. I skipped a couple feedings because it was so stressed. Now that I’m feeding again, the upper leaves are turning purple and although the plant itself is slowly perking up, it still looks sickly. We’ve had a fair amount of rain, the days are shorter and the nights are colder. Maybe I’m over analyzing. I’m going continue with my normal feed schedule and give it a few days before touching it again. Thanks for your two cents!
 
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Cotyledon420 said:
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IF and only if the purple started from the bottom and we are sure....then I'd use a liquid fish foliar spray that will be readily available for the plant...and maybe top dress something rich is phosphorus...your in flower as it is...and I'm assuming your a organic gardener...bone meal, rock phosphate, manure.


Oh yeah I got like B+ in math right now lol
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Plants are in composted manure. I feed them every 5 days or so depending on how much rain we’ve had (I don’t want to be dealing with root rot)! I don’t think it’s a nutrient deficiency but who knows how much damage was done when the roots were left exposed overnight. Ugh. I thought gardening was supposed to be therapeutic!
 
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Moe71 said:
The leaves aren’t as vibrant as they were before the fall. A lot were damaged and were removed. I skipped a couple feedings because it was so stressed. Now that I’m feeding again, the upper leaves are turning purple and although the plant itself is slowly perking up, it still looks sickly. We’ve had a fair amount of rain, the days are shorter and the nights are colder. Maybe I’m over analyzing. I’m going continue with my normal feed schedule and give it a few days before touching it again. Thanks for your two cents!
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OK are you a organic grower? What are you feeding them??

Arnt you hitting the end of your season leaves change colors as fall approaches like anything else the weather is getting the colder days getting shorter the plant knows it's time to go...could be why you seeing the leaves change colors

As for the other plant if it is a different strain then it could require less food than the "purple" plant....you could have over fed the plant...and the purple plant could be hungry that's why your seeing signs of deficiency...

As big as those plants are I'm sure those roots will make it till harvest...yes may have stunted some growth lower your yield a bit but man your still in it...

This is part of the therapeutic process...go easy on yourself...go with the flow...keep your faith even when it gets dark
 
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The plants are both Platinum Kush Breath.
I’m growing in composted manure.
I use Botonicare KIND and measure according to the label. It’s a three part system:
Base 4-0-0
Grow 2-2-4
Bloom 0-6-6
My last feed was number 5 of flowering.
Using a 5 gallon bucket of tap water, (I know, I know..) I added 50ml base and 75ml of bloom. (Haven’t used the grow for quite some time). A68989A0-8DB5-4FED-94A6-764186AD023D.jpeg
as for the weather, yes, fall is fast approaching. It’s getting dark a lot earlier and the nights can be chilly enough that the heat comes on in the house overnight.
 
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Those are large plants and overall look green. Nice job on not knowing anything. I dont really have a comment other than it seems just a tiny bit sus the one blew over so hard. Sometimes that could be an indication of root rot/overwatering. Which sounds like you're aware of and trying to avoid. Overwatering can also cause funky colors as well but I'm really not suggesting that's your problem. If you can grab your plant by the base and it feels like it isnt anchored when you shake it, that's when I'd suggest root rot/overwatered over a period of time. Gl, finish line in sight
 
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Moe71 said:
The plants are both Platinum Kush Breath.
I’m growing in composted manure.
I use Botonicare KIND and measure according to the label. It’s a three part system:
Base 4-0-0
Grow 2-2-4
Bloom 0-6-6
My last feed was number 5 of flowering.
Using a 5 gallon bucket of tap water, (I know, I know..) I added 50ml base and 75ml of bloom. (Haven’t used the grow for quite some time). View attachment 4989749
as for the weather, yes, fall is fast approaching. It’s getting dark a lot earlier and the nights can be chilly enough that the heat comes on in the house overnight.
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Your almost there...

less is more...imo that one plant is over fed I'd start with lowering my base and slightly the bloom atleast on the other plant or even hit it with just a plain watering instead of feeding letting it dry out a bit a couple times sometimes...as the grower you have to take the wheel I use bottle nutes I don't follow the schedule Everytime....sometimes I'll skip a feeding sometimes I feed them more then what it says if I see they are handling it well ....only composted manure? No aeration or nothing that is all your growing in? If so I could see you getting root rot...
 
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natureboygrower said:
Those are large plants and overall look green. Nice job on not knowing anything. I dont really have a comment other than it seems just a tiny bit sus the one blew over so hard. Sometimes that could be an indication of root rot/overwatering. Which sounds like you're aware of and trying to avoid. Overwatering can also cause funky colors as well but I'm really not suggesting that's your problem. If you can grab your plant by the base and it feels like it isnt anchored when you shake it, that's when I'd suggest root rot/overwatered over a period of time. Gl, finish line in sight
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Root rot is a concern because of the rain we’ve been having. Add the fact that the roots were fully exposed and endured a fantastic rain storm for a good 10 hours. I then hammered supports into the ground, probably damaging the roots even more. Not sure how much abuse a root system can endure before it loses it’s ability to draw in the nutrients. Hopefully more than I’ve put it through.
 
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Cotyledon420 said:
Your almost there...

less is more...imo that one plant is over fed I'd start with lowering my base and slightly the bloom atleast on the other plant or even hit it with just a plain watering letting it dry out a bit a couple times sometimes...as the grower you have to take the wheel I use bottle nutes I don't follow the schedule Everytime....sometimes I'll skip a feeding sometimes I feed them more then what it says if I see they are handling it well ....only composted manure? No aeration or nothing that is all your growing in? If so I could see you getting root rot...
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Lord love a duck. Yes, only composted manure (unless you count whatever was in the solo cup they were in when I got them)!! Think adding vermiculite might help in any way? Our rainy season is just starting. Minimum 2-3 days of rain per week.
 
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