The Singularity

The Singularity is the moment that AI is supposed to be able to rebuild itself, with improvements, that will exponentially improve itself in a short time. Effectively turbo evolution on a mechanical scale.

I always wondered, will we be fused with them, destroyed by them or surpassed and left behind?

Many prominent thinkers are concerned we'll be destroyed or subjugated.

ttystikk said:

Many prominent thinkers are concerned we'll be destroyed or subjugated.

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What about the years before the singularity... there is a chance people would be integrating themselves into technology. From Apple glasses to implants, advanced prosthetics, hormone pumps. I’m thinking somehow, if we have the implants, and we can create a subservient AI, we would evolve together.

Now if we cause the singularity and the AI ends up malevolent, perhaps we are farmed for chemical energy... I’m way too high for this!

JayBio420 said:

we are farmed for chemical energy

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Isn't that the plot from 'The Matrix'?

JayBio420 said:

What about the years before the singularity... there is a chance people would be integrating themselves into technology. From Apple glasses to implants, advanced prosthetics, hormone pumps. I’m thinking somehow, if we have the implants, and we can create a subservient AI, we would evolve together.

Now if we cause the singularity and the AI ends up malevolent, perhaps we are farmed for chemical energy... I’m way too high for this!

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I'm having trouble with my car doing the driving for me.

Human beings will get to a point where they start to use enhancements... like an extra hard drive for their brain that they can connect when needed. Eventually we'll come up with something that will enhance our processing power. It won't be long before we're cyborgs and don't need AI doing tons of computing for us, though I'm sure we'll use them to work cooperatively with us. I believe that humans will eventually become so advanced that they can create organic super computers... humans that are on par with any electronic AI.

But maybe we'll be wiped out by our creations before any of this ever happens.

What do you guys think about Microsoft putting $B’s into OpenAI? It seems we are a lot more likely to create an AI that reaches Singularity before we attach ourselves... and that’s kind of scary. I mean, a super-hacker computer might find a way to launch some nukes, or in the very least, cause a million problems with our infrastructure resulting in mass die offs...

Maybe?

JayBio420 said:

What do you guys think about Microsoft putting $B’s into OpenAI? It seems we are a lot more likely to create an AI that reaches Singularity before we attach ourselves... and that’s kind of scary. I mean, a super-hacker computer might find a way to launch some nukes, or in the very least, cause a million problems with our infrastructure resulting in mass die offs...

Maybe?

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What if we create AI beings that reach the singularity... but we only have them doing their work on the moon... or far beneath the Earth's surface... and there's no way they could tap into Earth's mainframe?

Skeet Kuhn Dough said:

What if we create AI beings that reach the singularity... but we only have them doing their work on the moon... or far beneath the Earth's surface... and there's no way they could tap into Earth's mainframe?

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I'm very sure, based on the exploits of hackers over the past half century, they there would be no way to effectively isolate them without cutting off all contact and defeating the whole purpose.

JayBio420 said:

What do you guys think about Microsoft putting $B’s into OpenAI? It seems we are a lot more likely to create an AI that reaches Singularity before we attach ourselves... and that’s kind of scary. I mean, a super-hacker computer might find a way to launch some nukes, or in the very least, cause a million problems with our infrastructure resulting in mass die offs...

Maybe?

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AI isn't a general intelligence. It works extremely well in small, well controlled environments like chess or medical diagnosis but has a lot of trouble with open environments- even today with relatively well defined rules like self driving cars.

This will eventually be overcome of course but the time it takes and the knowledge we gain along the way seems to me to be working against the 'runaway singularity that takes over everything' scenario.

I do believe The Singularity is set to happen within the next 16 months or so ...

KoSmIcTRaveLer said:

I do believe The Singularity is set to happen within the next 16 months or so ...

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We're living it.

Think about it; what is impossible for humans?

Immortality? No, just watch old moves and YouTube videos of dead people.

Teleportation? Private jet.

Flying cars? Already in flight testing.

Instant communication? You're posting on it.

Artificial intelligence? All we're doing now is making it smarter.

Better golf game? Even duffers are shooting like Tour players of old, because better balls and clubs.

The list is endless. There are no limits other than those of the imagination.

The real question is what our primitive monkey brains do with all this power. So far, we're fouling our best and fixing to nuke ourselves into Extinction.

ttystikk said:

Artificial intelligence? All we're doing now is making it smarter.

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General AI doesn't exist. We're not anywhere close. What you got right is WE are making it smarter, as a collective. Get rid of the big data and have these "AI" use inference alone, they're useless.
The best we can do is have a program generate its own big data, by iterating through as many different possibilities as possible. Then the "AI" uses past trials with the intelligence of an insect; and swarm and network flow theory as its evaluation tools.
Unless you think insects are smart, AI isn't as smart as you give it credit for.

Communist Dreamer said:

General AI doesn't exist. We're not anywhere close. What you got right is WE are making it smarter, as a collective. Get rid of the big data and have these "AI" use inference alone, they're useless.
The best we can do is have a program generate its own big data, by iterating through as many different possibilities as possible. Then the "AI" uses past trials with the intelligence of an insect; and swarm and network flow theory as its evaluation tools.
Unless you think insects are smart, AI isn't as smart as you give it credit for.

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Welcome to Rollitup

Communist Dreamer said:

General AI doesn't exist. We're not anywhere close. What you got right is WE are making it smarter, as a collective. Get rid of the big data and have these "AI" use inference alone, they're useless.
The best we can do is have a program generate its own big data, by iterating through as many different possibilities as possible. Then the "AI" uses past trials with the intelligence of an insect; and swarm and network flow theory as its evaluation tools.
Unless you think insects are smart, AI isn't as smart as you give it credit for.

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Human intelligence has been evolving for millions of years. AI has been around for a dozen or two.

It won't be long before we're assimilated- or discarded.

Don't think there is a limit to AI. Don't think human enhancements are coming before superior AI

This is going to get much worse before it gets better;

Communist Dreamer said:

Unless you think insects are smart, AI isn't as smart as you give it credit for.

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Insects are smart enough to have survived on Earth for longer than any other life form, so there's an argument to be made that being TOO intelligent is a Great Filter.

I think some insect's are pretty smart (Ant's). Other's just roll sheet around, other's die by headlight or fire etc.

Some ai is smart, as in it was given enough data to do whatever it does. Other's just roll sheet around.

I am mid first smoke of the day so I'm 3rd eye blind atm sorry.