The United States of America?

Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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What a fairy tail/load of shite that statement is, written by some wealthy old white land/slave owners in 1776 that is/was a fantasy
We've NEVER been United and if you have ever read American history, you would know that.(We did unite though in killing Natives, but that was easy)
Really, tell me how the fuck could we be ever be considered United?
From the beginning of this Nation, starting with the Pilgrims actually there has been religious intolerance as a divide, which has never actually gone away.
It used to be Protestants vs Catholics, Mormons had a hard time and the time honored favorite Religion to attack/vilify, the Jews.
Now the go-to Religion to hate is Muslim (we can all despise them/it right?)
Then we mustn't forget State vs State, starting in New England
Massachusetts vs Vermont/Vermont vs New Hampshire. No one bothered Rhode Island, everyone felt sorry for them :)
But, the most demonstrably obvious example of how divided we are (not were, are) was the Civil War, which to this day was the most costly war in causalities in American history.
We slaughtered each other, North vs South with gleeful abandon for four fucking years, all over slavery, to free the Black man.
That worked out well for the Blacks in this country, right?
After all, that made slaves/Blacks officially American citizens, and as this statement "All men are created equal" is included in the Constitution of the United States (I'm laughing hysterically now :) ), they're good to go right ?(ask George Floyd/ Oh, you can't can you because he was fucking murdered by a White cop)
So, here we are in 2021, just one Big Happy Family, right?
I mean adversity (Covid in this case, not a War for a change ) brings people together, that's the American way, right?
Well, that bullshit, at least the "United" States"/all men are created equal bullshit, has never, ever in the fucking History of this country been so obviously exposed as to what it is, pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT!!!!!!
We fucking hate each other.
East Coast vs West Coast/North vs South/Blacks against Whites & Whites against Blacks/ & everyone against those immigrants, those dirty, criminal minded job stealers & possibly Socialist/Communist/Muslim.
And now we have the COVID-19 & the Delta virus, which in theory should unite this country against a common threat.
But nope, the Reality of how divided/fucked up we are is on full display now.
Here is a map that's an example of how divided we are today, and the Great Divider is Republican's vs Democrats or Red State vs Blue.

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And the Genie that pulled out of the bottle all of the hate/awfulness of this Country and smacked us right in the face with it, was this motherfucker Trump, who today if he ran again for POTUS, would receive 97% of the Republican vote, which represents over a third of this Country,

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Fucking great, huh?
 
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Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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I mostly agree with the commentary by that gentleman speaking at the end, when he says that it will take years for this country to recover, not from Covid, but the partisanship on display. I disagree with his opinion though that the anti-maskers/anti-vaccination morons should not be demonized.
Fuck that, demonize the shit out of those blathering idiots
They earned/deserve it.
No sympathy from me, none, nada, zip.

 
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oill

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Jimdamick said:
What a fairy tail/load of shite that statement is, written by some wealthy old white land/slave owners in 1776 that is/was a fantasy
We've NEVER been United and if you have ever read American history, you would know that.(We did unite though in killing Natives, but that was easy)
Really, tell me how the fuck could we be ever be considered United?
From the beginning of this Nation, starting with the Pilgrims actually there has been religious intolerance as a divide, which has never actually gone away.
It used to be Protestants vs Catholics, Mormons had a hard time and the time honored favorite Religion to attack/vilify, the Jews.
Now the go-to Religion to hate is Muslim (we can all despise them/it right?)
Then we mustn't forget State vs State, starting in New England
Massachusetts vs Vermont/Vermont vs New Hampshire. No one bothered Rhode Island, everyone felt sorry for them :)
But, the most demonstrably obvious example of how divided we are (not were, are) was the Civil War, which to this day was the most costly war in causalities in American history.
We slaughtered each other, North vs South with gleeful abandon for four fucking years, all over slavery, to free the Black man.
That worked out well for the Blacks in this country, right?
After all, that made slaves/Blacks officially American citizens, and as this statement "All men are created" is included in the Constitution of the United States (I'm laughing hysterically now :) ), they're good to go right ?(ask George Floyd/ Oh, you can't can you because he was fucking murdered by a White cop)
So, here we are in 2021, just one Big Happy Family, right?
I mean adversity (Covid in this case, not a War for a change ) brings people together, that's the American way, right?
Well, that bullshit, at least the "United" States"/all men are created equal bullshit, has never, ever in the fucking History of this country been so obviously exposed as to what it is, pure, unadulterated BULLSHIT!!!!!!
We fucking hate each other.
East Coast vs West Coast/North vs South/Blacks against Whites & Whites against Blacks/ & everyone against those immigrants, those dirty, criminal minded job stealers & possibly Socialist/Communist.
And now we have the COVID-19 & the Delta virus, which in theory should unite this country against a common threat.
But nope, the Reality of how divided/fucked up we are is on full display now.
Here is some Data that's an example of how divided we are today, and the Great Divider is Republican's vs Democrats or Red State vs Blue.
If you look carefully at which States have the highest infection/death rates, you will notice they are ALL Republican (Sorry, but I find that heartening/amusing :) )

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And the Genie that pulled out of the bottle all of the hate/awfulness of this Country and smacked us right in the face with it, was this motherfucker, who today if he ran again for POTUS, would receive 97% of the Republican vote, which represents over a third of this Country,
Fucking great, huh?

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I'm English... married to am American. When I was young the USA seemed like a great place.... having been there loads now... its only skin deep... you look under the surface and its a rotten apple. (No offence meant to anyone here) just so many small things that mean it doesn't quite live up to expectations.... homelessness is crazy in the USA... drugs are out of control... the bad drugs!

In the UK you might find it hard to find people with politically extreame views... but in the USA it at least SEEMS...that everyone is far right or far left and unwilling to compromise.... just a feeling I get.... Please done shoot me!
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Jimdamick said:
I mostly agree with the commentary by that gentleman speaking at the end, when he says that it will take years for this country to recover, not from Covid, but the partisanship on display. I disagree with his opinion though that the anti-maskers/anti-vaccination morons should not be demonized.
Fuck that, demonize the shit out of those blathering idiots
They earned/deserve it.
No sympathy from me, none, nada, zip.

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James, the entertainment phase has just begun, I mean the opening acts are just starting, Gaetz, Barrack, the 1/6 investigation starting tomorrow, the trials of Rudy, the weasel, the Trumps and a rouges gallery of others are coming soon and of course everybody awaits the big show with Donald in the big apple.

Donald will be on trial and in prison before the year is out and there will be criminal trials during election season in 2022 for many of these assholes, and there will be a lot of assholes you've never heard about before too. By the time the dust settles Donald will take over a thousand assholes to prison with him, not counting the morons who stormed the capital.

We will see what becomes of his collection of deplorables when he goes down, they won't go away, but they won't have anything to coalesce around either. Donald will probably divide them even further on his way down, as he grows even more crazy while desperation and panic set in. Donald is going to Sing sing or some other maximum security state prison in NY and he will come out in a bag.
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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BonnMac said:
Hoping we can all get it together, soon.
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And Jeff Bezos is going to give all his money to charity and become a Buddhist monk.
Actually, there's a better chance of that happening than this Nation actually coming together as a unified Society.
It's alway's been evey man for himself in this country (the Conservative mantra) & the Federal goverment is bad & it's not to be trusted & MILLONS of people believe that shit & in reality that is what is happening today, with 2 shining examples, Florida & Arkansas. Do you think they give a fuck about their fellow Americans? Nope, they'd rather infect their neighbors & community & create the perfect envoirment for the development of a new variant (they can call it the Arkansas/Florida variant.
An actual United States will never, ever fucking happen. There are just to many self centered/ignorant/stupid/dumb as a fucking rock/racist Republican voters in this country to ever allow that to happen. That's just my opinion though.
 
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Jimdamick said:
And Jeff Bezos is going to give all his money to charity and become a Buddhist monk.
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He does have the haircut for monkhood, but not the attitude.

Tough I suspect Bezos is really a Ferengi trying to get back home, I mean he kinda looks like one, acts like one too!

Jeff Bezos is offering to cover billions in costs if NASA remedies its 'mistake' and gives Blue Origin the chance to compete with SpaceX again for a moon-lander contract (yahoo.com)
Jeff Bezos is offering to cover billions in costs if NASA remedies its 'mistake' and gives Blue Origin the chance to compete with SpaceX again for a moon-lander contract
 
Jimdamick

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oill said:
(No offence meant to anyone here)
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None taken, your right
Did you watch the video I posted, & the person that was interviewed, that was a well regarded Republican pollster, said he had to leave the USA because of the bull shit 4 months ago and went to England.. God I envy him. I wish also I could get the fuck out of here & go back to Ireland, but I can't, I have to stay in this Madhouse that is America today.
 
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Obepawn said:
Why don’t you EAD! Guess what that means.
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A simple minded moron with an antisocial personality, alas America has many of them and this creature is among the 30% who are hardcore Trumpists. Look at the morons they busted at the capitol for a profile of this idiot, who probably would have been there, if they could have afforded the bus fare from their shithole red state.
 
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Jimdamick said:
I knew some asshole would say that.
Thanks for proving me right :)
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No land on this planet is asshole free, every country has a third of the population who are assholes and mental cases of one kind or another. America has a few extra factors that upped the average a bit, but a majority have their heads screwed on straight, more or less. The problem really is the majority don't rule in America like in a true democracy, geography has rights in the senate, not people and besides there's the filibuster. There's gerrymandering and now cheating, outright fraud and trying to rig elections on a state level, including who counts and certifies the vote! America was only a full democracy in the 60's with the voting rights act and now that it's starting to bite, the GOP are trying to not just roll it back, but impose Jim Crow on much of white America too. Unfortunately a simple majority for the democrats won't do, either at the polls or in the congress.

African Americans are strong in the democratic party now and make up it's backbone in many places. It's not just that the republicans are against the democrats, it's about black and white for many republicans and that is the only issue that matters to them really.
 
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DIY-HP-LED said:
No land on this planet is asshole free, every country has a third of the population who are assholes and mental cases of one kind or another. America has a few extra factors that upped the average a bit, but a majority have their heads screwed on straight, more or less. The problem really is the majority don't rule in America like in a true democracy, geography has rights in the senate, not people and besides there's the filibuster. There's gerrymandering and now cheating, outright fraud and trying to rig elections on a state level, including who counts and certifies the vote! America was only a full democracy in the 60's with the voting rights act and now that it's starting to bite, the GOP are trying to not just roll it back, but impose Jim Crow on much of white America too. Unfortunately a simple majority for the democrats won't do, either at the polls or in the congress.

African Americans are strong in the democratic party now and make up it's backbone in many places. It's not just that the republicans are against the democrats, it's about black and white for many republicans and that is the only issue that matters to them really.
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It's not necessarily the filibuster, it's unequal representation in the Senate. When Wyoming, with a population of 530,000, about the same as Fresno California, has the same Senate representation as a state with 40 million people, there's a problem.
 
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