There are more than 2 Human Sexes

jimihendrix1

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While many of our modern societies find it hard to digest, older cultural traditions often make space for far more than just two genders.

Take the Bugis people of Sulawesi, Indonesia, a highly influential minority, for example.

The Brugis society accepts five genders: makkunrai (cisgendered men), oroané (cisgendered women), bissu (androgynous), calabai (transgender men), and calalai (transgender women). The society believes that all five genders should live in harmony. They also calabai and calalais to raise families with cisgendered partners and adopted children, while the bissau are particularly revered as shamans. But, as more and more Brugis are becoming Muslims, they are increasingly discarding their five-gendered world-view.

Native American Nations also have acceptance of genders beyond the usual two. The Ojibwe and the Crow call them Niizh Maindoowag and Badé (two-spirit, both man/woman), Navajos identify Nádleehí (one who is transformed), Lakotas have Winkté (men who behave as women), and the Cheyenne recognise Hemaneh (half-man, half-woman). There were male warriors who dressed like women and called each other sisters. It was the Christian overlords who made these nations eventually conform to two-gendered world.

Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and the authors of the Talmud all refer to hermaphrodites as a regular third gender. All that changed during the dark ages when the Christian codes started to put high value on two-genders. In Indian traditions, there is recognition for the kimpurush (not-men) and transgender characters like Amba/Shikhandi and Arjun/Brihannala across their mythical paradigm. They are marginalised, but still has social recognition as a third gender.

Please note that sex and gender are different issues. While sex is about biology, gender is a cognitive inclination.

Even at that biologically a person chromosome-wise can be XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, or XO, and hence much intersexuality, even asexuality. There are many biological conditions like Congenital adrenal hyperplasia, Persistent müllerian duct syndrome, Swyer syndrome, or 5-alpha-reductase deficiency that lead to differences in reproductive organs and hormonal secretion.

As for gender cognitive identities, there are a large number identified. Here are the most observed identities:

Agender: someone who experiences no form of gender whatsoever

Androgynous: identifies with aspects of femininity and masculinity alike and tries to present themselves as auch

Bigender: identifies as both male and female and fluctuated between the two

Cisgender: someone whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity

Gender fluid: kind of like bigender, but has days where they identify more as male than female or vice versa

Genderqueer: someone who doesn't identify with the gender binary (i.e. male and female)

Gender variant: tend to not conform with societal expectations of gender by choice or nature

Intersex: someone with biological aspects of both male and female (e.g. genitals, chromosomes, internal sex organs)

Trans man: Assigned female at birth, but identifies as male

Trans woman: Assigned male at birth, but identifies as female

Here’s a diagram to help you with the gender spectrum:


Saying there are only two genders is like saying to a Spanish speaker “No, you’re wrong, the word is ‘cat’, not ‘gato’!” Words are human constructs. No one is objectively right about them. However, the word “cat” has utility in English-speaking countries.

What’s true—what actually exists—is all those body parts, hormones, and brain functions. If someone has a bunch of them that don’t allow him to neatly fit into our “male” and “female” categories, we can ignore that (which will probably result in cruelty) and push him into one of our preexisting categories. Or we can acknowledge it. Either way, those parts, hormones, and brain functions will continue to exist.
 

curious2garden

Well-Known Member
While many of our modern societies find it hard to digest, older cultural traditions often make space for far more than just two genders.

Take the Bugis people of Sulawesi, Indonesia, a highly influential minority, for example.

The Brugis society accepts five genders: makkunrai (cisgendered men), oroané (cisgendered women), bissu (androgynous), calabai (transgender men), and calalai (transgender women). The society believes that all five genders should live in harmony. They also calabai and calalais to raise families with cisgendered partners and adopted children, while the bissau are particularly revered as shamans. But, as more and more Brugis are becoming Muslims, they are increasingly discarding their five-gendered world-view.

Native American Nations also have acceptance of genders beyond the usual two. The Ojibwe and the Crow call them Niizh Maindoowag and Badé (two-spirit, both man/woman), Navajos identify Nádleehí (one who is transformed), Lakotas have Winkté (men who behave as women), and the Cheyenne recognise Hemaneh (half-man, half-woman). There were male warriors who dressed like women and called each other sisters. It was the Christian overlords who made these nations eventually conform to two-gendered world.

Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and the authors of the Talmud all refer to hermaphrodites as a regular third gender. All that changed during the dark ages when the Christian codes started to put high value on two-genders. In Indian traditions, there is recognition for the kimpurush (not-men) and transgender characters like Amba/Shikhandi and Arjun/Brihannala across their mythical paradigm. They are marginalised, but still has social recognition as a third gender.

Please note that sex and gender are different issues. While sex is about biology, gender is a cognitive inclination.

Even at that biologically a person chromosome-wise can be XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, or XO, and hence much intersexuality, even asexuality. There are many biological conditions like Congenital adrenal hyperplasia, Persistent müllerian duct syndrome, Swyer syndrome, or 5-alpha-reductase deficiency that lead to differences in reproductive organs and hormonal secretion.

As for gender cognitive identities, there are a large number identified. Here are the most observed identities:

Agender: someone who experiences no form of gender whatsoever

Androgynous: identifies with aspects of femininity and masculinity alike and tries to present themselves as auch

Bigender: identifies as both male and female and fluctuated between the two

Cisgender: someone whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity

Gender fluid: kind of like bigender, but has days where they identify more as male than female or vice versa

Genderqueer: someone who doesn't identify with the gender binary (i.e. male and female)

Gender variant: tend to not conform with societal expectations of gender by choice or nature

Intersex: someone with biological aspects of both male and female (e.g. genitals, chromosomes, internal sex organs)

Trans man: Assigned female at birth, but identifies as male

Trans woman: Assigned male at birth, but identifies as female

Here’s a diagram to help you with the gender spectrum:


Saying there are only two genders is like saying to a Spanish speaker “No, you’re wrong, the word is ‘cat’, not ‘gato’!” Words are human constructs. No one is objectively right about them. However, the word “cat” has utility in English-speaking countries.

What’s true—what actually exists—is all those body parts, hormones, and brain functions. If someone has a bunch of them that don’t allow him to neatly fit into our “male” and “female” categories, we can ignore that (which will probably result in cruelty) and push him into one of our preexisting categories. Or we can acknowledge it. Either way, those parts, hormones, and brain functions will continue to exist.
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Hey Annie.
 

IndoorTom

Active Member
Doesn't it stand to reason that we just live in an age where everyone's feelings and views are of the highest priority above actual logic? Just a generation of political correctness, instant gratification, and entitlement. Just my humble opinion.
 

Singlemalt

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Doesn't it stand to reason that we just live in an age where everyone's feelings and views are of the highest priority above actual logic? Just a generation of political correctness, instant gratification, and entitlement. Just my humble opinion.
Without instant gratification, fapping would be pretty much worthless now wouldn't it? Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water
 

DaFreak

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See the thing is... The universe does not care whether you or I like it or not. It does not care what you nor I believe. I'm not talking about belief in a form of blind faith. What i'm talking about is the release of new biological evidence from the scientific community that challenges our pre-conceived notions of gender, and why people cannot accept such evidence when it conflicts with their pre-conceived notions. Knowing full well their pre-conceived notions no longer have biological evidence supporting it.

Human genders being a spectrum is the actuality when we observe the evidence. But genders being 2 is the perception we hold. Why is our pre-conceived perception held to a higher regard than the actuality of the evidence observed in reality? When confronted with such evidence, why can't some humans accept it?

I also do not understand the "cringe" or negative feelings or uncomfortablity towards it? Why not the curiosity instead? I find that strange because I find all of this so interesting and cannot understand why anyone would feel negative against this. It is the exploration of the human species and the advancement of the knowledge of our human bodies. Why is our "feelings" or "pre-conceived notions" more important than actual evidence and actual truth?
I couldn't really care less if science says there are 100 sexes. culture says there are two and that's what I am sticking with. I won't discriminate or hate anybody who wants to call themselves an it, they, or whatever but to me it's all bullshit for people who have way too much time on their hand.
 

Budzbuddha

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Oh Christ ... the Flat head Flat earthers must be getting a chub for this topic ..... binary , fruit basket , non dick , quasi queer , tri sexual or whatever the fuck they give a cutesy name for it. Listen , you knuckleheads there is only 2 sexes.

Man .... Dick and Balls
Woman ..... Meatflaps and a hole

Pretty fucking simple right ?
 

Budzbuddha

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Seriously FFS .... ever since we let sprinkly twinkly flags , unicorn wig wearin dudes and quasi lady lumberjacks running waving
dick shaped wands at every fucking thing nowadays, what do you expect ?

I guess we all fucking blinked when everything turned into toon town. Binary , Non Binary , No Dick / Dick Diverse , Unicorn , Tri gender , Cosmic gender ........ WTF ? ..... Did we get invaded by shape shifters now ? Now you can stare at your naked ass in a mirror and deny the reality that’s staring back at you ? .... OWN IT.

So what if you got a floppy tit or micro penis .... Fat blob or fugly horse Toof bitch. The body you were BORN into is what you get.
No bullshit “ club or group “ is gonna change your DNA .... unless you are a rare hermaphdite like trump. No buzz cut , flaming chiffon dress is gonna make anybody believe otherwise.
2 sexes .... thats it . Stop drinking the fucking koolaid .

“ you is what you is “ - Abraham Lincoln.

No wonder Mother Nature is shoving COVID up our asses .
 

PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
Seriously FFS .... ever since we let sprinkly twinkly flags , unicorn wig wearin dudes and quasi lady lumberjacks running waving
dick shaped wands at every fucking thing nowadays, what do you expect ?

I guess we all fucking blinked when everything turned into toon town. Binary , Non Binary , No Dick / Dick Diverse , Unicorn , Tri gender , Cosmic gender ........ WTF ? ..... Did we get invaded by shape shifters now ? Now you can stare at your naked ass in a mirror and deny the reality that’s staring back at you ? .... OWN IT.

So what if you got a floppy tit or micro penis .... Fat blob or fugly horse Toof bitch. The body you were BORN into is what you get.
No bullshit “ club or group “ is gonna change your DNA .... unless you are a rare hermaphdite like trump. No buzz cut , flaming chiffon dress is gonna make anybody believe otherwise.
2 sexes .... thats it . Stop drinking the fucking koolaid .

“ you is what you is “ - Abraham Lincoln.

No wonder Mother Nature is shoving COVID up our asses .
All I can say is I was assigned male at birth.
 

CannaOnerStar

Well-Known Member
While many of our modern societies find it hard to digest, older cultural traditions often make space for far more than just two genders.

Take the Bugis people of Sulawesi, Indonesia, a highly influential minority, for example.

The Brugis society accepts five genders: makkunrai (cisgendered men), oroané (cisgendered women), bissu (androgynous), calabai (transgender men), and calalai (transgender women). The society believes that all five genders should live in harmony. They also calabai and calalais to raise families with cisgendered partners and adopted children, while the bissau are particularly revered as shamans. But, as more and more Brugis are becoming Muslims, they are increasingly discarding their five-gendered world-view.

Native American Nations also have acceptance of genders beyond the usual two. The Ojibwe and the Crow call them Niizh Maindoowag and Badé (two-spirit, both man/woman), Navajos identify Nádleehí (one who is transformed), Lakotas have Winkté (men who behave as women), and the Cheyenne recognise Hemaneh (half-man, half-woman). There were male warriors who dressed like women and called each other sisters. It was the Christian overlords who made these nations eventually conform to two-gendered world.

Hippocrates, Aristotle, Galen, and the authors of the Talmud all refer to hermaphrodites as a regular third gender. All that changed during the dark ages when the Christian codes started to put high value on two-genders. In Indian traditions, there is recognition for the kimpurush (not-men) and transgender characters like Amba/Shikhandi and Arjun/Brihannala across their mythical paradigm. They are marginalised, but still has social recognition as a third gender.

Please note that sex and gender are different issues. While sex is about biology, gender is a cognitive inclination.

Even at that biologically a person chromosome-wise can be XX, XY, XXY, XYY, XXX, or XO, and hence much intersexuality, even asexuality. There are many biological conditions like Congenital adrenal hyperplasia, Persistent müllerian duct syndrome, Swyer syndrome, or 5-alpha-reductase deficiency that lead to differences in reproductive organs and hormonal secretion.

As for gender cognitive identities, there are a large number identified. Here are the most observed identities:

Agender: someone who experiences no form of gender whatsoever

Androgynous: identifies with aspects of femininity and masculinity alike and tries to present themselves as auch

Bigender: identifies as both male and female and fluctuated between the two

Cisgender: someone whose sex assigned at birth matches their gender identity

Gender fluid: kind of like bigender, but has days where they identify more as male than female or vice versa

Genderqueer: someone who doesn't identify with the gender binary (i.e. male and female)

Gender variant: tend to not conform with societal expectations of gender by choice or nature

Intersex: someone with biological aspects of both male and female (e.g. genitals, chromosomes, internal sex organs)

Trans man: Assigned female at birth, but identifies as male

Trans woman: Assigned male at birth, but identifies as female

Here’s a diagram to help you with the gender spectrum:


Saying there are only two genders is like saying to a Spanish speaker “No, you’re wrong, the word is ‘cat’, not ‘gato’!” Words are human constructs. No one is objectively right about them. However, the word “cat” has utility in English-speaking countries.

What’s true—what actually exists—is all those body parts, hormones, and brain functions. If someone has a bunch of them that don’t allow him to neatly fit into our “male” and “female” categories, we can ignore that (which will probably result in cruelty) and push him into one of our preexisting categories. Or we can acknowledge it. Either way, those parts, hormones, and brain functions will continue to exist.
A lot of what the ancient people, like those philosophers from greek, were not talking about physical hermaphroditism, but a union between inner masculine and feminine aspect, which have nothing to do with physical gender.

The reason why physical hermaphrodites were seen as holy in some cultures is because they were thought to symbolise these inner masculine and feminine aspects together, which was seen as holy.

I dont disagree that gender wouldnt be a spectrum or anything on that video and im not commenting on other stuff you said. Just wanted to clarify this one misconception.


Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) kingdom."

They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) kingdom as babies?"

Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, when you make eyes in place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image, then you will enter [the kingdom]."
This same underlined idea is prevalent in nearly all ancient cultures and has nothing to do with physical gender, but psychological wholeness
 

YardG

Well-Known Member
It's confusing to use the term "Physical Gender" in that gender is a human construct, not a physical trait. The physical/biological distinction is sex, not gender (similarly, intersex is a physical trait which in the past was called hermaphroditism, transgender relates to gender).
 

YardG

Well-Known Member
People can be intersex, that is to say they have some combination of male and female sex organs/parts. Sometimes that includes differently formed external sexual organs. Sometimes it might mean typical external organs of one sex but internal organs of the opposite sex. There’ve been lawsuits from people who doctors operated on at birth, thereby assigning male or female.

Is there anyone who isn’t intersex who feels they are? I would have to guess probably?
 

Budget Buds

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Holez or Polez. That's it , there is no fucking in between ........ except I identify as a ham sandwich and my duramax identifies as a prius ......
 

mauricem00

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Genetic disorders are not cool. They are tragic.
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schizophrenia has a genetic component to it. this gene is also linked alzheimer and nicotine addiction. if this genetic difference does not effect the quality of their life or that of those around them then lrave them alkne and let them live their lives
 
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