Kmoney12222
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is this the qb u recommend and do they cover the same area as a hps
This for all the LED haters! Is that blurple I see kicking HID butt?
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Kmoney12222
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I meant led
coreywebster
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Depends on the QB kit and the HPS wattage. That's just one board.
The 260w kit covers a 3x3 or 2x4 and is about equal to 400w hps.
growingforfun
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That is a qb, but I'm not recommending anything that you dont understand yet. I highly advise you look in the led section and learn about it and also the strips to find what's best for you.
But no, this will not cover the same space as a hps if we are talking a 1000w hps.
coreywebster
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Edit, if you meant LED and not HPS. It is LED just white led. Watt for watt it outputs more. Is considerably more efficient.
Cheap blurple =45-50w per square foot. QB or COB or Samsung strips =30w per square foot for good results in flower.
Bongsmoke420
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Lol that’s a lot of time you’ve wasted I could grown 2 flowers by now hahaha rofl
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Bongsmoke420
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They reckon two 260w kits would replace a 1000w hps... well I dunno bout that but they put out some nice buds and everyone that is using them is getting very good results with the right environment...
Johnny Lawrence
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Not in my experience.
Johnny Lawrence
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What? You don't veg for four and a half months???
growingforfun
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It is in the OPs experiance.
Watt for watt you think a burple is gonna veg better than a MH? Have a better spread?
My burple could easily make my plants grow a inch or more a day but then at the same time it had to be so close to the plant and there was so little light penetration. If I had it a foot above the plant to get a decent footprint it didn't work so well
Johnny Lawrence
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Several years ago, I did a 4x4 tent with roughly 600 watts of blurple. I hit the same numbers I was hitting with a 600 HID, and my plants were the same 4 to 5 footers I generally grow. Penetration wasn't an issue either, as I didn't see a noticeable increase in larf compared to running HID.
coreywebster
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Yeah, I saw that. Been a long time since I used 1000w HPS. But my two 260w kits in a half my 8x4 replaced 900w of hps. It wouldn't be fair to attribute my increased yield to the lighting alone since I changed a lot of major things like veg time, pot type and size ect. But I can say safely without worrying about unfair comparisons that bud density and quality are at least equal.
growingforfun
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So in this example equal watts burple did as good as hps. Pretty much on par with what I'm saying.
I'm saying a 300 watt led is going to grow slowly and have shit penetration vs the 1000 watt hps its marketed as replacing, and cost more while it's at it. See what I mean?
Sure watt for watt they are fine, but then watt the point of spending so much on them? I mean, purple is cool an all, but not worth the price tag just for that glow
Johnny Lawrence
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You're all over the place, dude.
This is what you said - "Burple grows slowly, and does small plants. I bought a burple and learned this the hard way."
You were speaking in general terms. Not a 300 watt blurp vs a 1000 - that's just ridiculous. Of course the 1000 is going to smoke a 300 watt panel. That's obvious. A 1000 watt HID is going to crush 300 watts of anything.
Again, in my experience running blurples, they didn't cause my plants to grow slowly and they got just as big as they did under a 600 Hortilux. Penetration wasn't an issue. You're making blanket statements that aren't exactly true.
growingforfun
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Well from your point of view I'm all over the place I see that.. and to you it is obvious that a 1kw hps will crush a smaller LED....
HOWEVER that's not obvious to everyone, and those are the people I'm talking to, and theres several of those people in this thread.
They market these burples as 1000 watt fixtures and as most people here know they are not, and do not compete with 1000 watt fixtures.
I feel like your ignoring the context, or purposefully taking what I'm saying out of context
whitebb2727
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Maybe if it was for the following year outdoors and I wanted 20 foot tall plants.
whitebb2727
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With the right one.
My unit farm at 175 watts is doing what about 400 watts of t5 or mh could do.
It runs Cree xpe-2 and osram diodes.
I took it apart and it's just like the QB boards but runs red, white and blue diodes.
It grows tight nodes. Thought about seeing if unit farm would just sell the boards or boards in a kit.
It is setup just like the QB but is in a case with a fan. Larger heatsink and it could be run passive. They even came out with long led boards like a bar.
I think they would do more sells that way.
If you want colors chilled is a better option they have plug in ready diy it should run you about the same cost as unit farm you just get a far better light.
whitebb2727
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You keep saying that unit farm is a bad light. It's not. It uses top bin Cree diodes. I don't get why you don't get that.
I get that the unit farm could be cheaper. It's not a shitty light or a knock off. It's not unbranded. Some of the parts are made in China. The boards are specific to unit farm.
If they get thier price on point or start making kits they would sell more.
You can say white LEDs are the way to go. I agree they grow good weed. Thing is mixed spectrum is always better. Not saying that red/blue is the way to go. The mix roof red, blue and white is.
As far as I'm concerned cobs and the like are lacking a bit. It's why I considered adding a couple t5 bulbs back in with the cobs for uv and such.
Last I checked chilled was a bit over priced as well.
Unit farm isn't worth the price the retail price is over $2 per watt but hey if you want to pay Ferrari prices for a Honda that's on you