Too early to prune?

Boatguy

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They could get quite a bit more crowded before you start having problems.
Let em grow at this point.
How big is your space?
 

GanjaGreg.

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Ha!
those are definitely ready to be chopped IF you wanted to. Once your plant has grown about 4-5 nodes she can be topped, fimmed, pruned whatever. I would do some serious training on those girls if your having space issues.. take a look at mine bongsmilie
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You see the two on the left are smaller than the one on the right but they are actually about 20 days older!
 

Boatguy

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Thats a good amount of space.
They dont look crowded to me at all.
The big one may make things interesting when you flip to 12/12. Maybe a topping to let the others catch up would help
 

m99smith

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48x24x60. I have 5 in early veg (planted Oct 31) and one larger one I've kept in veg (planted Sept 17)
Do you top your plants at all because if your just letting them grow like that big one and flowering like that your losing a massive yeild those bottom ones won't be as big, dense, and mature as the top ones. Pluse no you don't need to prune them you have a lot of room I grow the sea of green way so my buckets at literally touching I top the plants a couple times to get like 8 main colas then LST them to fill the width of the bucket and I prune the outer fan leaves more so they arnt touching the others much I also like to keep them small like 3 ft at the end of flowering. And you can see in the pic I had a tiny bit of a ph issue but bought some ph up and it's been doing good these girls are super skunk and are 3rd day into flower. And sorry for the paragraph 20191211_131544.jpg
 

Macintyre22

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I topped the big guy on 3 of the lower nodes a week ago, all have bounced back. Didn't do any early topping on it. All my little guys are getting topped though, I've already topped one 4 times and I appreciate the paragraph, thanks for the input !
 

Macintyre22

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Do you top your plants at all because if your just letting them grow like that big one and flowering like that your losing a massive yeild those bottom ones won't be as big, dense, and mature as the top ones. Pluse no you don't need to prune them you have a lot of room I grow the sea of green way so my buckets at literally touching I top the plants a couple times to get like 8 main colas then LST them to fill the width of the bucket and I prune the outer fan leaves more so they arnt touching the others much I also like to keep them small like 3 ft at the end of flowering. And you can see in the pic I had a tiny bit of a ph issue but bought some ph up and it's been doing good these girls are super skunk and are 3rd day into flower. And sorry for the paragraph View attachment 4435380
Next grow im putting my seedlings into large pots so I can top and LST nice and early to get a nice shape. This is only my 3rd grow with this setup , all have produced great weed, now I just have to master LST and HST
 

Therrion

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I think it's also strain dependent. I have GTH #1 clones that are out of control. I remove 90% of her leaves before flower and 2 weeks later she looks like I never touched her. I have to defoliate that strain through the whole grow or my scrog bed becomes a tangled mess. The reward is really high yields.
 

gr865

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I think it's also strain dependent. I have GTH #1 clones that are out of control. I remove 90% of her leaves before flower and 2 weeks later she looks like I never touched her. I have to defoliate that strain through the whole grow or my scrog bed becomes a tangled mess. The reward is really high yields.
One week prior to flipping, heavy trim.
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One week later, day of flip to 12/12.
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What she look like after harvest.
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Therrion

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How much did she yield and damn I would be to scared to prune that much but I'll have to try it with one of my plants
I use co2 and a sealed room that keeps an optimal environment. I wouldn't recommend heaving pruning if it was less than. Heavy pruning can exacerbate preexisting issues. I don't know gr865's environment. I'd like to see what they have to say.
 

m99smith

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I use co2 and a sealed room that keeps an optimal environment. I wouldn't recommend heaving pruning if it was less than. Heavy pruning can exacerbate preexisting issues. I don't know gr865's environment. I'd like to see what they have to say.
Yeah I would be scared it would stress my plants out to much and make them herm or if you feed them too much those are your only leaves keeping it alive and if they start to get nute burn, or a defecancy that plant would die so quick
 

m99smith

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I topped the big guy on 3 of the lower nodes a week ago, all have bounced back. Didn't do any early topping on it. All my little guys are getting topped though, I've already topped one 4 times and I appreciate the paragraph, thanks for the input !
Honestly with the big one I would chop it into 2 sections and clone it cuz that plant is looking soon weak. To be honest all your plants look weak what light are you growing under and what wattage and i mean actual power draw cuz if your says like 1000w or some shit its not 1000w they say 1000w cuz it has like 100 10w diods so it makes the product sound a bit better but u have to look at actual power draw like what it takes from the wall and those side branches on all of them are tiny as shit and will never get a decent size I honestly wouldn't use that light for flowering if you are going too because expect your yield to be like 0.3 grams/watt get some like 250-400 watts of cob leds or use hps or anything that's stronger then that light
 

gr865

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How much did she yield and damn I would be to scared to prune that much but I'll have to try it with one of my plants
This one plant was 19.5 zips. I was worried when I pruned it as it was the heaviest I had ever pruned. I prune my vertical grow fairly heavy.

I use co2 and a sealed room that keeps an optimal environment. I wouldn't recommend heaving pruning if it was less than. Heavy pruning can exacerbate preexisting issues. I don't know gr865's environment. I'd like to see what they have to say.
I do not have a sealed room and do not use CO2. I really have no control over the humidity, but has not been a problem, I do have control over the temp in the room. I am in a 4x4x6.75, I pull my air from a 2nd room with it's own A/C.
I have always done the pre-flower prune, the 21 and 42 days prunings and removing any fans that block bud sites.
I average 24 to 26 zips smokable buds per grow in both my vertical and horizontal grows.
I don't get into debate over defoliation anymore as I have proven to myself that it works for me. If it doesn't work for others, I am unsure why because it works for me.
 

Macintyre22

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Honestly with the big one I would chop it into 2 sections and clone it cuz that plant is looking soon weak. To be honest all your plants look weak what light are you growing under and what wattage and i mean actual power draw cuz if your says like 1000w or some shit its not 1000w they say 1000w cuz it has like 100 10w diods so it makes the product sound a bit better but u have to look at actual power draw like what it takes from the wall and those side branches on all of them are tiny as shit and will never get a decent size I honestly wouldn't use that light for flowering if you are going too because expect your yield to be like 0.3 grams/watt get some like 250-400 watts of cob leds or use hps or anything that's stronger then that light
That picture was taken the same day I pruned the larger fan leaves off the big guy, I've noticed a lot of growth in the nodes since. What do you mean cut it in half, like lollipop it? Thanks for the feedback man, I'm still very new to growing, any help/tips are greatly appreciated!
 

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m99smith

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That picture was taken the same day I pruned the larger fan leaves off the big guy, I've noticed a lot of growth in the nodes since. What do you mean cut it in half, like lollipop it? Thanks for the feedback man, I'm still very new to growing, any help/tips are greatly appreciated!
Yeah chop the big plant in half close to where 2 side branches come out and they will get as big as the top one you will get a better yield and a clone from it
 
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