Total Weight Caregiver Can Store For Patients

dwood8165

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I am caregiver for two patients plus myself. In reading all of the Legislature that I can, I can not find what is the total weight a caregiver can posses in a stored locked facility. It states 2.5 ounces combined for patients.
A) Is the 2.5 for all of the patients or just one. Also is that carrying or stored. It does not say exactly
B) We are allowed to grow 12 plants. Is that still per patient or for all of the patients. It does not say exactly
C) Who on this website can not get more than 2.5 ounces from 12 plants (if you can not, stop growing)
D) Are we allowed to take our overages to a commercial grower, processing center or a provisioning center for compensation or donation

I hope everyone understands that c was stated for fun and not to demean anyone
These thing are unclear and help finding the answers would greatly be appreciated. I am asking for legislature (Michigan Legislature) not opinions or the my buddy answers, stories.
Reason being a person can you to jail, namely me. But any person reading your answer and believing it to be true can be put into jeopardy. So lets dig out these answers!!!
We all can benefit from these answer and more

Thanks In Advance
 

Rayi

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How much you can have is the million dollar question. The law says you can grow 12 plants for each patient. Also you can't mix your rec with medical and you can't use medical for yourself. So if you you have 2 patient you can have 24 plants. If you are a patient you are supposed to be able to have 12 more. But no more even of 100 people live in your house. I've been posting all over for the limit. I have 4 patient that want me to grow outside for them. Thought I would grow 12 plants for each of them outside. Once dried and cured they can come get it for the year. You used to be able to sell overages to a despensary but Whitmer stopped that. So you can't use the overages and you can't sell the overage and you can't even give it away unless it's a medical patient. Can't even give it to another caretaker. The laws are a PIA send are meant to be interpreted as the state sees fit. Keep us posted if you find out anything
 

Gorillaglue4u

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Says 2.5 ounce per patient thats how its been since i got my card in 2011. You can have 2.5 for you 2.5 for one patient 2.5 for other patient.
 

dwood8165

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That is the old law I am aware of that law. However, didn't they amend that law or did they. I just need to know for sure. without he or she say, this way i can up my plant to count to accommodate the weight maybe
 

Gorillaglue4u

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Can you show where they changed it? Because at shops i can still buy 2.5 with my patient card and another 2.5 when i show my caregiver card. Nor have i heard they changed anything.
 

dwood8165

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this is what i have been reading. I can be wrong and that is why I am asking the questions


(b) A primary caregiver who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card is not subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process with the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act. The privilege from arrest under this subsection applies only if the primary caregiver presents both his or her registry identification card and a valid driver license or government-issued identification card that bears a photographic image of the primary caregiver. This subsection applies only if the primary caregiver possesses marihuana in forms and amounts that do not exceed any of the following:
(1) For each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process, a combined total of 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana and usable marihuana equivalents.
(2) For each registered qualifying patient who has specified that the primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility.
(3) Any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots.
(c) For purposes of determining usable marihuana equivalency, the following shall be considered equivalent to 1 ounce of usable marihuana:
(1) 16 ounces of marihuana-infused product if in a solid form.
(2) 7 grams of marihuana-infused product if in a gaseous form.
(3) 36 fluid ounces of marihuana-infused product if in a liquid form.
(d) A person shall not be denied custody or visitation of a minor for acting in accordance with this act, unless the person's behavior is such that it creates an unreasonable danger to the minor that can be clearly articulated and substantiated.
(e) There is a presumption that a qualifying patient or primary caregiver is engaged in the medical use of marihuana in accordance with this act if the qualifying patient or primary caregiver complies with both of the following:
(1) Is in possession of a registry identification card.
(2) Is in possession of an amount of marihuana that does not exceed the amount allowed under this act. The presumption may be rebutted by evidence that conduct related to marihuana was not for the purpose of alleviating the qualifying patient's debilitating medical condition or symptoms associated with the debilitating medical condition, in accordance with this act.
(f) A registered primary caregiver may receive compensation for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient in the medical use of marihuana. Any such compensation does not constitute the sale of controlled substances.
(g) A physician shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but
 

Gorillaglue4u

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(1) For each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process, a combined total of 2.5 ounces of usable marihuana and usable marihuana equivalents.


To me that sounds like between edibles concentrate and flower a combined total of 2.5 ounces. Take what i say with a grain of salt but i still go by 2.5 zips per patient.
 

dwood8165

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Im with you, but need to make sure. Dont need the headache. even though it is legal I like to fly below the radar. If i have to fly in the radar, well let me have it tegrther
 

greg nr

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Wow, that's a lot of composted bud to stay legal.

So here's a question. If you deliver 2.5 oz's to your patient, can you still store 2.5 oz's for them?

My guess from the wording is yes. It's just what you are holding, not what you deliver, correct?
 

dwood8165

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I am guessing and only guessing. It is or use to be you can carry 2.5 for every patient. Now how much you can store is the age old question
 

dwood8165

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The state is truly squeezing us caregivers out. They also used us to cover the shortages they were having from the commercial grows
They stated we can no longer after september 1 take our overages to commercial or processing centers on 3/5/2020.

There will be another huge shortage bigger than the last one. Right now they are trying to cover this summers consumptions, ergo the 9/1 date.

There are 25 commercial growers. Some are connected to provisioning centers. So, why would they part with there supply? When it can sold from there store, more profits. T
he commercial growers will supply as much product as they can, but not the variety and in some cases the quality. IF each commercial grower grows 5 strains that is only 125 strains and how many different strains is being created not to mention existing.

Caregivers created 60 percent of the marijuana market..That is a huge gap to fill.

They complain about black market but they are creating the market. If we are taking our overages to the processing centers and commercial growers. That is pounds of weed not being sold on the streets and more revenue for state taxes. Which also means caregivers are buying products with the extra cash. sale tax.
Someone must be plotting something on the gov't level. I didn't think our govt could think side ways.
They will be getting money from the few instead of getting the money from masses.
Someone please help me understand the logic
 
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Chip Green

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I think there is a belief that the licenced growers will eventually be able to maintain a sufficient supply. I'm sure some of them will, but I also believe that many will fail. I've participated in conversation with some members of a planning committee, who were in the initial stages of licence application. They didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of succeeding. They had big money, but not a clue on how to even begin to cultivate a single plant in a closet, let alone 1500.... The municipality eventually elected to not allow the licence application. If they hadn't, it would have been a huge failure, I have zero doubt.
The Caregiver status has taken a bit of a black eye, due to some reckless behavior by cultivators hiding behind the Caregiver name.
Lots of growers around, not all of them are actually Caregivers. Big difference.....
 

thenasty1

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commercial grows cannot produce craft quality. many commercial grows cant even produce a product that will pass the mandatory lab testing. caregiver nugs are still ending up on dispensary shelves, albeit through the back door. eventually, the state will realize that if they want the revenue that other states are seeing, they will have to allow and incentivize smaller craft cultivators into the market too. and if they dont, fuck em. black market isnt going anywhere either way
 
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