Trump says Putin insulted by US election meddling claim..BACKTRACKS.. again

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    vostok Well-Known Member

    Trump backs US spy agencies after Putin meddling remark
    President Donald Trump appears to have rowed back on comments suggesting he believed
    the Russian president's denials of meddling in the US election.

    He was widely criticised after saying Vladimir Putin had been insulted by the allegations
    of Russian interference.

    On Sunday, Mr Trump clarified that he supported US intelligence agencies, who have long
    concluded that Russia tried to sway the 2016 poll in his favour.

    The two leaders briefly discussed the allegations at an Asia-Pacific summit.

    Questions surrounding Russia's role in last year's US elections and allegations of collusion involving
    Donald Trump's campaign team have dogged his presidency. Legal action has already been
    taken against several of his former aides as part of a justice department inquiry.

    Until now, President Trump has refused to acknowledge intelligence agency findings that Russia
    was behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in the run-up to the poll.
    How has Mr Trump backtracked?
    After brief conversations with President Putin on the sidelines of the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation (Apec),
    Mr Trump briefed reporters on Saturday on what had been said about Russian
    interference in the presidential campaign.

    "Every time he sees me he says I didn't do that, and I really believe that when he tells me that, he means it.

    "I think he is very insulted by it, which is not a good thing for our country."

    He also disparaged key figures in the US intelligence community who concluded in January that
    Russian meddling had taken place, including former national intelligence chief James Clapper,
    ex-CIA director John Brennan and sacked FBI chief James Comey, whom he called "political hacks".

    Asked to clarify his comments on Mr Putin's denials during a press conference with the
    Vietnamese president on Sunday, Mr Trump said: "As to whether I believe it or not,
    I'm with our agencies, especially as currently constituted."

    Drawing a clear line between the current and previous leadership of the FBI, CIA and national intelligence
    he said "As currently led, by fine people, I believe very much in our intelligence agencies."

    "What he believes, he believes," he added, of Mr Putin's belief that Russia did not meddle
    in the presidential campaign.

    He later took to Twitter to attack "haters and fools", who, he said, did not encourage
    good relations between Russia and the US.

    In his tweets, Mr Trump also said his predecessor, Barack Obama, had lacked "chemistry"
    with President Putin.

    What was the reaction?
    Mr Trump's original comments came under vehement criticism at home with lawmakers and intelligence
    figures questioning whether he had accepted the Russian president's denials of interference,
    despite intelligence findings to the contrary.
    • Republican Senator John McCain, a strident critic of Mr Trump, called him naive for
    • "taking the word of a KGB colonel over that of the American intelligence community"
    • Adam Schiff, ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, tweeted:
    • "You know who else is insulted by it, Mr President? The American people.
    • You believe a foreign adversary over your own intelligence agencies."
    • Mr Clapper told Reuters: "The fact that he would take Putin at his word over the
    • intelligence community is unconscionable."
    • A CIA statement passed to US media said: "The intelligence assessment
    • with regard to Russian election meddling has not changed."
    Trump out on a limb again
    Aleem Maqbool, BBC News, Da Nang

    Donald Trump once again goes against the findings of his own intelligence agencies.

    Because although the US justice department is investigating the scale and nature of Russian
    interference in the election of 2016 (and any links to the Trump campaign),
    the American intelligence community has already long determined that Russia did, indeed, interfere.

    Yet Mr Trump suggested this story was not only entirely fabricated by his political opponents,
    it might even be costing lives in Syria, because it is getting in the way of his relationship with
    the Russian president and hampering their ability to help solve the conflict together.

    "People will die because of it, and it's a pure hit job, and it's artificially induced and that's a shame," he said.

    It is hard to know what the president hopes to achieve with this type of rhetoric.

    The investigation goes on.

    What are the allegations against Russia?
    The CIA and other intelligence agencies have already concluded that Russia was behind the DNC
    hack in the run-up to last year's presidential election.

    The contents of the emails, passed to Wikileaks and posted online, were embarrassing to the Democrats
    and shook up the presidential campaign, which ended in defeat for Hillary Clinton.

    In addition to the justice department inquiry, led by special investigator Robert Mueller,
    congressional committees have been set up to carry out their own investigations.

    Relations between the US and Russia have been strained for years, with the Kremlin
    long accusing Washington of seeking to sway elections in Russia and other ex-Soviet states
    including Ukraine and Georgia.

    While Russian hackers are widely suspected of involvement, there has been no conclusive link to the Kremlin.

    Denying that Russia had tried to interfere last year by fostering contacts with Mr Trump's campaign,
    Mr Putin told reporters in Vietnam: "Everything about the so-called Russian dossier in the US is a manifestation of a continuing domestic political struggle."

    How far has US justice department investigation progressed?
    Last month, former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to
    having lied to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) about the timing of meetings
    with alleged go-betweens for Russia.

    He testified that Russian nationals had contacted him in an attempt to gain influence with the
    Trump campaign, offering "dirt" in the form of "thousands of emails" on Mrs Clinton in April 2016
    - two months before the DNC emails were leaked.

    Mr Trump has played down the importance of Mr Papadopoulos, calling him a "low-level volunteer" and "liar".

    On Saturday, Mr Putin brushed aside US media reports that a woman wrongly identified by
    Mr Papadopoulos as the Russian president's niece had offered to help broker meetings with Kremlin officials.

    "I do not know anything about it and I think it is just some fantasies," Mr Putin said.

    Mr Trump's former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, and an associate were also
    placed under house arrest on charges of money laundering as a result of the Mueller inquiry,
    but the charges do not relate to the election.

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    Justin-case Well-Known Member

    Who knew Sucking at life could be so exhausting.

    Don't you have some shitty grow advice to post some where else, grosuk?
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    Justin-case Well-Known Member

    Try drinking some water instead of just shitting in it, grosuk
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    Justin-case Well-Known Member


    It's called water, you can drink it. It's good for you, comrade.
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    schuylaar Well-Known Member

    So you agree Putin is the bottom?
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    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    Sarah Huckabee Sanders straps on a 12" and gives it to both Trump and Putin. She's the real mastermind with the dirt.

    vostok Well-Known Member

    Vodka naturally

    vostok Well-Known Member

    Putin is watching you he knows all about your ex and kinky ways
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    vostok Well-Known Member

    ...and still Trump can't make up his mind ...or not

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    Putin is a power bottom.
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    vostok Well-Known Member

    I don't know this guy bottom whoose he..?

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    how often do you stumble across gay pornography of two men fucking and become oddly aroused?
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    Justin-case Well-Known Member

    I mean really, can you name one thing Russia is good at. Every thing you guys touch turns to shit, comrade.
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    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    They're pretty good at viral dash cam videos.
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    Justin-case Well-Known Member

    Ive seen some of those. Makes you wonder if they even have brakes on their cars, fucking derelicts.
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    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    hanging off of buildings.

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    bundee1 Well-Known Member

    The best. I could watch them for a straight hour.
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    Sir Napsalot

    Sir Napsalot Well-Known Member

    Everybody has a dashcam because insurance scams are so prevalent

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    you have me confused with roy moore, jew hater.

    MarWan Well-Known Member

    You, Weinstein, and Roy Moore are all the same.


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