Trying to make myself high dose edibles

Hello everyone hope all is well,

So a little background on me, about a 17 year daily smoker. Ever since I tried my first edible brownie old fashion at a party, I thought they were just bunk after no effects. Through the years I’ve made my own, had others… until I went to Colorado and had opportunity with dosing. My threshold for any edible seems to be around 500+ mg. I am not talking about the 500mg fake nerd candy’s or black/grey market products that claim higher than they are. Colorado, Maine, NY and California , my dosing always needed to be high.

Living with Severe pain and anxiety the edibles are just incredible and after smoking so much I’d rather not cause more damage to my lungs.

So I have 5 ounces of pretty much top shelf shake. I want to make the most potent edibles for myself. I know how to make canna butter and oil etc but with this amount does anyone have any suggestions or possibly use a method for high dose edibles. Any help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance
 

bpk419

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I have limited experience but the following has worked for me.

Make dry ice kief with 160 bubble bag:

Decarb 240 F for 40 minutes uncovered.

5 grams Decarbed Kief or Hash
2.5 teaspoons Coconut oil
1/2 teaspoon Lecithin.
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes
Freeze
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes.

Using kief, the end result averages 3mg per drop of concentrate.
 

Kushash

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Hello everyone hope all is well,

So a little background on me, about a 17 year daily smoker. Ever since I tried my first edible brownie old fashion at a party, I thought they were just bunk after no effects. Through the years I’ve made my own, had others… until I went to Colorado and had opportunity with dosing. My threshold for any edible seems to be around 500+ mg. I am not talking about the 500mg fake nerd candy’s or black/grey market products that claim higher than they are. Colorado, Maine, NY and California , my dosing always needed to be high.

Living with Severe pain and anxiety the edibles are just incredible and after smoking so much I’d rather not cause more damage to my lungs.

So I have 5 ounces of pretty much top shelf shake. I want to make the most potent edibles for myself. I know how to make canna butter and oil etc but with this amount does anyone have any suggestions or possibly use a method for high dose edibles. Any help would be much appreciated

thanks in advance
I've made killer coconut oil using buds by taking the finished product and then running it again with a second batch of fresh buds. I never tried running it three times because it was already so potent that there was no reason to do it again. It was too potent to enjoy, it was hard judging how much to take. Taking 2 ml was about all I could handle being a heavy smoker with a high tolerance. I just take a small piece of the oil to ingest, I don't bother with making edibles like gummies. I've never been as high smoking compared to edible oil. The 1st time I did a heavy dose I was afraid to fall asleep because I was afraid, I'd forget to breath.
You could try running half of the shake then run it again with the second batch.
 
I have limited experience but the following has worked for me.

Make dry ice kief with 160 bubble bag:

Decarb 240 F for 40 minutes uncovered.

5 grams Decarbed Kief or Hash
2.5 teaspoons Coconut oil
1/2 teaspoon Lecithin.
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes
Freeze
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes.

Using kief, the end result averages 3mg per drop of concentrate.
Thanks for a detailed instructions that’s much appreciated , how much dry flower did you put in the bubble bags … or was it trim?

I've made killer coconut oil using buds by taking the finished product and then running it again with a second batch of fresh buds. I never tried running it three times because it was already so potent that there was no reason to do it again. It was too potent to enjoy, it was hard judging how much to take. Taking 2 ml was about all I could handle being a heavy smoker with a high tolerance. I just take a small piece of the oil to ingest, I don't bother with making edibles like gummies. I've never been as high smoking compared to edible oil. The 1st time I did a heavy dose I was afraid to fall asleep because I was afraid, I'd forget to breath.
You could try running half of the shake then run it again with the second batch.
yeah the oil appeals to me this most based on amount injested . I hate when I end up having to eat 10 cookies or 50 gummies , plus the price point of not making my own is astronomical.

Also how much bud did you use that time?
 

bpk419

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I used several ounces of buds and ran different screen sizes but it was my first time. I already processed 20 grams of kief into caps and have plenty of kief left over. Trim works too from my understanding. The yield may not be as substantial, but you could scale the recipe based on how much you end up with. Google - Hallucinating Hash Capsules for Hemp Heads for more details.
 

Kushash

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Thanks for a detailed instructions that’s much appreciated , how much dry flower did you put in the bubble bags … or was it trim?



yeah the oil appeals to me this most based on amount injested . I hate when I end up having to eat 10 cookies or 50 gummies , plus the price point of not making my own is astronomical.

Also how much bud did you use that time?
I use 1 1/2 cups of coconut oil, 2 1/2 cups of water and 2 1/2 - 3 oz of crushed buds and run it for 10 hours in a crock pot on low stirring every two hours and adding water when needed. I use cheese cloth and a grape press to extract the oil then let it harden in the fridge to separate the water from the block. Then run it again in the crock pot with fresh water and bud 2 1/2 - 3 oz for another 10 hours. After again separating the water and the block I'd melt it and add water and again separate the water for a cleaner taste. With the bud I use it also makes a potent pain cream for certain types of pain.
 
Thanks for all the help guys, I’d love to hear from anyone who has experience in making high dose edibles
Coconut oil seems to be the choice here, I’m guessing a high fat content as THC binds to fat or something along those lines
 

PJ Diaz

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I use 1 1/2 cups of coconut oil, 2 1/2 cups of water and 2 1/2 - 3 oz of crushed buds and run it for 10 hours in a crock pot on low stirring every two hours and adding water when needed. I use cheese cloth and a grape press to extract the oil then let it harden in the fridge to separate the water from the block. Then run it again in the crock pot with fresh water and bud 2 1/2 - 3 oz for another 10 hours. After again separating the water and the block I'd melt it and add water and again separate the water for a cleaner taste. With the bud I use it also makes a potent pain cream for certain types of pain.
This is the way to go. You can use much more water so that you can also add more bud. Also you can do it in the instant pot in much less time, and it doesn't stink up the place.
 

PJ Diaz

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The end product is only as good as the herb used
Good luck
Not necessarily. I've made some pretty amazing canna-coconut oil from just fanleaf. The trick is to use a lot of material relative to the solvent (oil), and adding the water in as a buffer allows you to use much more plant matter. I've put a pound of fan leaf into 12 oz of coconut oil, but used over a gallon of water as a buffer, then seperated the water and oil later.
 

Herb & Suds

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Not necessarily. I've made some pretty amazing canna-coconut oil from just fanleaf. The trick is to use a lot of material relative to the solvent (oil), and adding the water in as a buffer allows you to use much more plant matter. I've put a pound of fan leaf into 12 oz of coconut oil, but used over a gallon of water as a buffer, then seperated the water and oil later.
You caught the part about five zips of shake?
 
This shake is just bud that was partially ground up I smoked a J of it was was kinda really surprised, but we’ll have to see… good in, good out , I definitely hear you
 

DancesWithWeeds

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I have limited experience but the following has worked for me.

Make dry ice kief with 160 bubble bag:

Decarb 240 F for 40 minutes uncovered.

5 grams Decarbed Kief or Hash
2.5 teaspoons Coconut oil
1/2 teaspoon Lecithin.
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes
Freeze
Heat 220 F for 20 minutes.

Using kief, the end result averages 3mg per drop of concentrate.
This could be one of the better recipes I've seen. I do want to ask why you decarb twice? I don't really understand why it is this way but I'm decarbing this afternoon and do it this way.
 

DancesWithWeeds

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I use 1 1/2 cups of coconut oil, 2 1/2 cups of water and 2 1/2 - 3 oz of crushed buds and run it for 10 hours in a crock pot on low stirring every two hours and adding water when needed. I use cheese cloth and a grape press to extract the oil then let it harden in the fridge to separate the water from the block. Then run it again in the crock pot with fresh water and bud 2 1/2 - 3 oz for another 10 hours. After again separating the water and the block I'd melt it and add water and again separate the water for a cleaner taste. With the bud I use it also makes a potent pain cream for certain types of pain.
For pain rub I add a tablespoon of DMSO per cup. For whatever I make the DMSO a huge difference in how long it takes to work. Whatever your recipe is this could maybe make it work faster.
 

DancesWithWeeds

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Thanks for all the help guys, I’d love to hear from anyone who has experience in making high dose edibles
Coconut oil seems to be the choice here, I’m guessing a high fat content as THC binds to fat or something along those lines
I've been thinking about starting a thread "Legit MMJ Home Labs". This is a good example of why. A lab doesn't have to be fancy. The first RSO was made with a bucket and a wooden spoon. If you make something there it qualifies as a lab. Simple. Just keep it legal.

The object is to discuss lab problems, maybe like stronger edibles, or maybe chemistry problems. I'm not an expert on these things but I hope to draw some in. If I see enough interest in it I'll do it.
 

bpk419

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why you decarb twice? I don't really understand why it is this way but I'm decarbing this afternoon and do it this way.
Only decarb once. The decarbed material is cooked with the oil/lecithin for 20 minutes at a slightly lower temp and then frozen to solidify (about 20 minutes) and then another cycle of 20 minutes at 220. You can keep repeating the freeze / cook cycle which enhances the sleepiness factor.

I've tried the crockpot method and also tried alcohol extractions but the kief hash caps are the most potent. Having copd sucks and the caps bring the relief without the lung irritation.
 
Only decarb once. The decarbed material is cooked with the oil/lecithin for 20 minutes at a slightly lower temp and then frozen to solidify (about 20 minutes) and then another cycle of 20 minutes at 220. You can keep repeating the freeze / cook cycle which enhances the sleepiness factor.

I've tried the crockpot method and also tried alcohol extractions but the kief hash caps are the most potent. Having copd sucks and the caps bring the relief without the lung irritation.
Thanks for your time and great info
 
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