Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

Sedan · Apr 19, 2020

crisnpropa said:
Enjoy the little time that we have on this Earth with your family and your son.

Yes, you're right, over the years I also began to understand that there are true values, for which it’s not scary to live and not scary to die.

This is when you rush somewhere in a hurry, flies in time, and you understand that you are treading your feet.)) Now I, too, like your father, tell my son how short this fucking life is.

crisnpropa said:
But somehow, I do believe that one day soon the sheep may wake up and hold the wolves responsible.

The revolution is beautiful only from the pages of books. In real life, revolution is a great sorrow for a nation. I don’t know how to correctly express it in English, but it’s better that there are no revolutions. The last revolution I saw was an unpleasant sight. Yes, the sheep fell off the chain and began to tear to pieces wolves. They broke into the houses of the rich, smashed everything there and robbed. Because what they saw was beyond measure! In the country house of the President of Ukraine in the living room hung a chandelier worth several million dollars. How do you like the golden toilets?

When this all happened, I was scared. I watched the crowds of people who ran around the city with runny eyes and trashed everything in their path. These are ordinary people. they have families, children. But all of a sudden, as if by a diabolical call, these people turn into beasts. That's what a revolution is, bro! This is when harmless sheep turn into wolves.

And most importantly, after some time, these people again become sheep, and they live as they did before!

And in place of the old wolves, new ones come, even more predatory and sophisticated!

juxt said:
I respect everyone's right to have an opinion, and most do not offend me. I disagree with everyone also, I did not mean to offend!

Excuse me, please, but I did not notice that you have an opinion.

And I also, no matter how I tried to deal with the windmills, but I still do not have to accept everything that they impose on me. The system will break the back of anyone! There were already thousands in history that fought, and in the end, it ended sadly for them!

juxt said:
Can you talk about drying and curing Sedan?

Do you chop and hang the whole plant or branches or just buds?
How long do you dry? How can you tell they are ready to cure?
Do you wet or dry trim?

juxt said:
Also do you flush? That is where in the last week or so you only give water no nutrients. So many people disagree about this.

We call it ripen.

this stage is now at one of my students

Ripen is the final phase when pouches for grains arise.

At this point, I exclude nitrogen from the plant diet and add more phosphorus and potassium to the solution.

After the pouches are formed, I rinse with water for a week to wash the remains of fertilizers, so that then I do not smoke them!

After that I cut the plant and dry it.

juxt · Apr 19, 2020

Sedan said:
an opinion

I have several brother, though they are not precious to me, I know what they are worth

. I also like to explore ideas, and sometimes will argue for something i disagree with to further the conversation. Or play the role of the dumb yank.

That is another great video! One day maybe i can be in your school, your students seem to grow the dank.

In my area there is little access to top shelf flower. Much of what seems to float around is vacuum packed heat cure. The other forms of extracted resin are more available, probably because it's easier to conceal and ship...things like wax and vape pens. Do you have these? I think it strips a lot from the plant so probably not as good as flower. They do get very strong, 70+% THC. We had those here before CBD pens.

It's interesting that you take the buds off the drying stem as they dry, i have not seen many others talk about this. I also see many talk about maintaining exact conditions, but i agree with the you life gets in the way of our plans and we have to work with the conditions we have. The hang dry does make the most sense to me, but many say dry with leaves on. I was reading around and saw a box with trays where you put individual buds on screens to dry. Another small machine like a convection oven. It seems like this part is easy to get wrong.

Peace and safety in these times, and much success!

oldsilvertip55 · Apr 19, 2020

my sons help today with the tractor old clutch pulled and new one installed tractor bolted back together pulls great now!thank you lord, I know it wasnt me who deserved them!

Sedan · Apr 20, 2020

juxt said:
I have several brother, though they are not precious to me, I know what they are worth . I also like to explore ideas, and sometimes will argue for something i disagree with to further the conversation. Or play the role of the dumb yank.

For the most part, I argue, waiting to defend my opinion, if I'm sure of something for sure.

Smart people get away from a dispute))), a dispute, as a rule, infects a quarrel. It doesn’t work out for me.)) You know how the ram butt butts when you want to move it?)) It is very similar to me.)))

juxt said:
That is another great video! One day maybe i can be in your school, your students seem to grow the dank.

This is easy to do, I do not take money for training .. Like that master in Shaolin.)))))

juxt said:
In my area there is little access to top shelf flower. Much of what seems to float around is vacuum packed heat cure.

I did not quite understand this, bro, can you rephrase more precisely?

juxt said:
Do you have these? I think it strips a lot from the plant so probably not as good as flower. They do get very strong, 70+% THC. We had those here before CBD pens.

Yes, I smoked this appliance, it looks like an electric cigarette.

I have been smoking marijuana for 25 years. I prefer the classic smoking method. I am a conservative.))

juxt said:
It's interesting that you take the buds off the drying stem as they dry, i have not seen many others talk about this.

This is done in order to put the dry buds as tightly as possible in a jar, then they are better treated, in the container with cones there should be as little air as possible ..
And more aesthetically, when there are no sticks in the bud, isn’t it pragmatic?)) Weight is less, but it is more pleasant to smoke.)))

juxt said:
The hang dry does make the most sense to me, but many say dry with leaves on.

When the bud dries with the leaves, it is already extremely difficult to remove the dry leaves from the bud well! And if the buds are with leaves in the end, then this is a low-quality product! Leaves really spoil the taste !! Their quality suffers as well. The action is not so clean. I try to keep as few leaves as possible.

juxt said:
I was reading around and saw a box with trays where you put individual buds on screens to dry. Another small machine like a convection oven. It seems like this part is easy to get wrong.

yes, you are mistaken, Bro))) .. I have little idea of this oven)) I don’t have such a oven.

juxt said:
Peace and safety in these times, and much success!

And good luck to you more!

oldsilvertip55 said:
my sons help today with the tractor old clutch pulled and new one installed tractor bolted back together pulls great now!

Yes, I know, I removed the clutch from my Soviet car, it is very difficult, you need to disassemble the gearbox. It is impossible to do it yourself on the tractor.

oldsilvertip55 said:
I know it wasnt me who deserved them!

No, my friend, you're wrong! If children help you and respect you, then you deserve it, because you brought them up correctly!

Sedan · Apr 23, 2020

juxt · Apr 23, 2020

Sedan said:
master in Shaolin

Yes, it is more valuable to share! I admire you Sedan. When i can grow i plan to do a trellis in your style! You will be my sensei.

Sedan said:
rephrase more precisely?

I have no access to top quality buds, or dry flower. The flower we see here is not jar cured, it is wrapped in tarp or something to dry in the sun, then vacuum sealed in plastic. Very rare we will see some good not crushed, but plain flower is the easiest thing to get caught for smell so mostly we see cartridges or wax or BHO. Sometimes there is local sun grown but not great conditions and when illegal they don't offer you first quality.

Sedan said:
oven

Google herbsnow, I think there are some threads about it on here.

Sedan said:
already extremely difficult to remove the dry leaves from the bud well!

Yes, i have never seen in person the buds like yours brother, but i can imagine how hard it is to get the little leaves out.

and yes, it is great to have sons! Peace and safety to everyone reading!

That video is great! Do you or your son produce them? I assume your students take video and your son does the editing, music? It is done well.

Sedan · Apr 24, 2020

juxt said:
Yes, it is more valuable to share! I admire you Sedan. When i can grow i plan to do a trellis in your style! You will be my sensei.

Yes, I will help you with pleasure, Bro!

juxt said:
I have no access to top quality buds, or dry flower.

Now I understand.))

Bro, we have the same. I did not smoke in my city in the quality of buds, better than mine, because I am doing everything right. Once, because of my buds, one dealer went bankrupt. They stopped buying from him.

juxt said:
That video is great! Do you or your son produce them? I assume your students take video and your son does the editing, music? It is done well.

Thank!

Students send me photos and video materials of their work. My wife mounts and draws up, my son is engaged only in voice acting, I am writing a script and a text.

Sedan · Apr 24, 2020

It's hard to believe, but here's 37 watts of power from a wall outlet.

There are two plants.

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The result will surprise you a little later. There will be a video where I show and tell everything!

I myself did not know this before, but for such small capacities, the power system is different from the usual cultivation. Now .. at the peak of flowering, the diet of the plant is not more than 300 PPM. If more, then the buds begin to burn. This is the second cycle in this installation. And only now we understood how to act in order to bring plants healthy to the end in this installation - this is the minimum nutrition .. minimal !!!

Sedan · Apr 26, 2020

Sedan · Apr 27, 2020

juxt · Apr 27, 2020

Sedan said:
My wife mounts and draws up, my son is engaged only in voice acting, I am writing a script and a text.

Wow! Your wife producer, you director, son acting...great family! I knew you let your wife manage the plants, but she is really making everything happen

Sedan said:
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How many plants is that? Beautiful...

Sedan said:

Is that from your company? What profile? In my research white light has show to be better if you are going low wattage, but above a certain DLI supplementation of deep red/far red and UV could increase metabolism.

Do you think you would get 5 times the yield on that 37watt plant above with this light? Or you wouldn't use them in the same way...like, use this one to produce the same amount in a shorter time?

ttystikk · Apr 27, 2020

Greetings Sedan! I'm sorry I've been gone so long. I hope you and your family are well!

oldsilvertip55 · Apr 27, 2020

GOOD MORNING! Sedan

oldsilvertip55 · Apr 27, 2020

i know it is late for me to be up,one of those nights when someone though he could steal and no one notice.bad place to try to steal from after dark!

Sedan · Apr 28, 2020

juxt said:
Wow! Your wife producer, you director, son acting...great family! I knew you let your wife manage the plants, but she is really making everything happen

My wife had a very good job before the war. She was the head of a jewelry store in a retreat from the largest jewelry chains in the city. Now caring for plants.))) Sounds funny, is not it? Never in her life had she grown plants and never in her life had she made videos. Same as me. I had never in my life imagined that I could be a publicist, that I could write something, and they would read me with interest. War and crises have opened a different side of my mind: the creative. It also sounds very strange, doesn't it? By and large, I'm glad that it happened. If not for war and crisis, I would be an ordinary person .. greedy, insidious and insatiable. Something seemed to stop me, some higher power .. and sent me along a different life path, it is more difficult, less profitable, but from this path, you get true human pleasure. This is not lust, nor debauchery, nor saturation .. it is something else that takes you to a completely different level of consciousness.

juxt said:
How many plants is that? Beautiful...

Thank!
I don’t remember exactly something around 40 ...

juxt said:
Is that from your company? What profile? In my research white light has show to be better if you are going low wattage, but above a certain DLI supplementation of deep red/far red and UV could increase metabolism.

My Corporation.))) Bro: the company sounds very loud.)) Yes, we solder these lamps.
Profile of what? Corporation profile or what is the profile made of? )))

I have only a general idea about electronics, I do not solder these lamps. At the expense of skyscrapers, I understand this, because I'm a builder, and there are all kinds of photons there ... this is too much for me.)) I can now tell you something clever))), but it will be wrong, because I myself will I don’t understand this.
I will say one thing: these lamps are made strictly on the recommendation of OSRAM.
OSRAM is the only diode company that conducts research so deeply in crop production. Moreover, they singled out cannabis growing as a separate item. It would be foolish to challenge specialists whose products are used by NASA.

Samsung does not produce diodes for crop production, they for the most part produce diodes for domestic or street use. These diodes adapted ordinary growers for cultivation. Yes, there you can discuss for a long time what you need to add or remove from the lamp in order to achieve the optimal result for hemp. We should not experiment with OSRAM diodes, because we cannot afford such a level of research as OSRAM.

juxt said:
Do you think you would get 5 times the yield on that 37watt plant above with this light? Or you wouldn't use them in the same way...like, use this one to produce the same amount in a shorter time?

For the most part, the performance of this unit at such low capacities is technology dependent.

1. The shape of the box.
2. The technique of cultivation and training.
3. Space technology))) OSRAM.

Thus, we get the result 1/3 1/4, in the ratio of watts / gram with a power consumption of 37 watts. And this is a world record .. another one))), only in micro growth. And this is not pathos - believe me, Bro!

Yes, the vertical cultivation technique, as well as the Silo method, involves a long process. But the result will be no less, and even more, as if you were raising two short cycles.

ttystikk said:
Greetings Sedan! I'm sorry I've been gone so long. I hope you and your family are well!

Good to see you, comrade!

How are you? Where had you been?

We already kind of let go of this panic with the virus. Already more and more people go without masks and fins.))). In both Russia and Ukraine, people take to the streets, rejecting quarantine. In Russia, there have already been several clashes with the police. People in protest take to the streets, arrange festivities, with music and drinks .. The police arrive and soothe them for a very long time. Tired of all this virus already! But on television, it's just awful! If you watch this news, it becomes scary, not just scary, but it plunges you into horror. For any reason, this virus is mentioned .. Constantly some numbers are incomprehensible about the sick ... and I know perfectly well that in our local clinic there is not even a drug that would accurately determine the presence of this virus, but would not confuse it with pneumonia as usual !
You go out into the street, you think there will be mountains of corpses right on the streets ... Damn, nothing has changed on the street .. Except for the zombies in gas masks.)) It looks very sad.))) Like in the movie "Mad Max."

oldsilvertip55 said:
i know it is late for me to be up,one of those nights when someone though he could steal and no one notice.bad place to try to steal from after dark!

Good afternoon, bro!

If you say that marijuana is being stolen, then this is a common thing with us. If it’s an outsider, it’s very difficult to grow so that no one notices and doesn’t steal. It is much safer to grow in your apartment.

oldsilvertip55 · Apr 28, 2020

NO this person tried to steal a mule! he no longer had any intrest in it after the rear tire went flat all of a sudden. The people living both sides of me are vets.around here it seems like if you live within 10 miles of a river or interstate , your things are for the taking!

juxt · Apr 29, 2020

Sedan said:
Something seemed to stop me, some higher power

I had something similar happen..I was greedy and going for more, but got woken up. I see things differently now also. It's too bad you weren't all able to follow your plans, but i hope you find peace and fulfillment in the things you're doing now.

Yes your company

. That is good I want for you good success. The profile i ask is what size length x width, designed for what size space. Agreed methodology and time really determine yield, in the US it's not so much about maximizing the yield, but maximizing the yield in 12 weeks or less. With autos or clones they get it down to 9 or so, but that feels too mechanical. Many big companies are falling here, it's funny to me

Many people argue about LED. Good growers can grow well with bad equipment, so I try to understand the science (though I'm not smart enough). The Osram have the efficient Reds but the Samsung are more efficient white (which are really blue with phosphor or other coatings). The scientists studying it are saying that adding various UV and some far red for Emerson effect are the only real supplements supported by tests. Not the blurple, anything else will probably kinda work. Some people use CFL so a lot works. It should be about efficiency and cost for most people, not about how special the colors of the light, but the DLI.

On the virus yes, doom and gloom on TV. We are starting to open back up. We had protests too. We'll see how it goes, i don't think it's over but the death toll was only ever 3% total population, we'd need many more to hit that prediction.

Welcome back @ttystikk , I really enjoyed your thread also, hope all is well for you.

oldsilvertip55 said:
within 10 miles of a river or interstate , your things are for the taking!

My family had to deal with that in Va. Stay safe!

Sedan · Apr 30, 2020

juxt said:
The profile i ask is what size length x width, designed for what size space.

Here the area is 70X50 cm. Power consumption is 75 watts.

3 week flowering

juxt said:
maximizing the yield, but maximizing the yield in 12 weeks or less.

Any artificial acceleration of the natural process of plant growth leads to loss of crop quality. This is the wrong concept. IMHO

I do not consider autos to be marijuana of normal quality. This is a mutant or genetic freak.

juxt said:
Osram have the efficient Reds

)) This is a key moment for our business.

Red is necessary for flowering, the veg process is of little interest to us in essence. The quality of the LED luminaire is determined mainly by the quality of the red spectrum. You have never seen how you can perfectly conduct veg on cheap Chinese diodes. Flowering sets in, and joy gives way to chagrin immediately.

juxt said:
but the Samsung are more efficient white

More effective in what sense? For one and the same area, OSRAM needs 1.5-2 times less than Samsung.

Another important point: Samsung diodes are very spoiling the microclimate, if we are talking about small boxes.

juxt said:
On the virus yes, doom and gloom on TV.

juxt said:
toll was only ever 3% total population

It’s very difficult to surprise you, as I understand it.)))

Maybe this will surprise you?)))

This is the Russian news of 2003.

I will translate, although it’s difficult for me.))

Beginning with

4th second
Speaker:

Scientists around the world are trying to solve the mystery of an unknown virus that killed at least 9 people in a few days.
In appearance, the disease is similar to pneumonia, but not amenable to treatment with known drugs. It spreads at an unprecedented speed throughout the world. Scientists say it could be a flu mutation, but a version of biological terrorism is also not ruled out.

26th second

A severe form of acute respiratory disease is atypical pneumonia. But more often, doctors call it: "The virus is a killer."

The first case was recorded in southern China. Two weeks later, the virus was detected worldwide. None of the existing antibiotics can cope with the virus. Today, a group of infectious disease experts flew from Geneva to Hong Kong. Where the virus spreads the most. During the day, the number of patients doubled.

1:50
(masked woman)

I heard about the virus from the news, I'm even going to postpone all business trips. My doctor advised me not to take off my mask even at home.

Speaker:

Scientists around the world fear that this virus might be stronger than the virus in 1920, called: "Spanish Flu." Then the virus killed 20 million people around the world.

Experts from the World Health Organization argue that they will be able to find a vaccine within a week. )))

end of quote.

Bro, you don’t find that something reminds us.))) Or it seems to me?)))

oldsilvertip55 said:
NO this person tried to steal a mule! he no longer had any intrest in it after the rear tire went flat all of a sudden. The people living both sides of me are vets.around here it seems like if you live within 10 miles of a river or interstate , your things are for the taking!

Steal a tractor? And why did he need a tractor, especially so old? Was it a tramp?

juxt said:
I had something similar happen..I was greedy and going for more, but got woken up. I see things differently now also. It's too bad you weren't all able to follow your plans, but i hope you find peace and fulfillment in the things you're doing now.

Yes your company . That is good I want for you good success. The profile i ask is what size length x width, designed for what size space. Agreed methodology and time really determine yield, in the US it's not so much about maximizing the yield, but maximizing the yield in 12 weeks or less. With autos or clones they get it down to 9 or so, but that feels too mechanical. Many big companies are falling here, it's funny to me

Many people argue about LED. Good growers can grow well with bad equipment, so I try to understand the science (though I'm not smart enough). The Osram have the efficient Reds but the Samsung are more efficient white (which are really blue with phosphor or other coatings). The scientists studying it are saying that adding various UV and some far red for Emerson effect are the only real supplements supported by tests. Not the blurple, anything else will probably kinda work. Some people use CFL so a lot works. It should be about efficiency and cost for most people, not about how special the colors of the light, but the DLI.

On the virus yes, doom and gloom on TV. We are starting to open back up. We had protests too. We'll see how it goes, i don't think it's over but the death toll was only ever 3% total population, we'd need many more to hit that prediction.

Welcome back @ttystikk , I really enjoyed your thread also, hope all is well for you.

My family had to deal with that in Va. Stay safe!

As I understand it, your crime is not less than ours. And not only in big cities.

ttystikk · Apr 30, 2020

juxt said:
I had something similar happen..I was greedy and going for more, but got woken up. I see things differently now also. It's too bad you weren't all able to follow your plans, but i hope you find peace and fulfillment in the things you're doing now.

Yes your company . That is good I want for you good success. The profile i ask is what size length x width, designed for what size space. Agreed methodology and time really determine yield, in the US it's not so much about maximizing the yield, but maximizing the yield in 12 weeks or less. With autos or clones they get it down to 9 or so, but that feels too mechanical. Many big companies are falling here, it's funny to me

Many people argue about LED. Good growers can grow well with bad equipment, so I try to understand the science (though I'm not smart enough). The Osram have the efficient Reds but the Samsung are more efficient white (which are really blue with phosphor or other coatings). The scientists studying it are saying that adding various UV and some far red for Emerson effect are the only real supplements supported by tests. Not the blurple, anything else will probably kinda work. Some people use CFL so a lot works. It should be about efficiency and cost for most people, not about how special the colors of the light, but the DLI.

On the virus yes, doom and gloom on TV. We are starting to open back up. We had protests too. We'll see how it goes, i don't think it's over but the death toll was only ever 3% total population, we'd need many more to hit that prediction.

Welcome back @ttystikk , I really enjoyed your thread also, hope all is well for you.

My family had to deal with that in Va. Stay safe!

Thank you. It's nice to be missed!

ttystikk · Apr 30, 2020

Sedan said:
My wife had a very good job before the war. She was the head of a jewelry store in a retreat from the largest jewelry chains in the city. Now caring for plants.))) Sounds funny, is not it? Never in her life had she grown plants and never in her life had she made videos. Same as me. I had never in my life imagined that I could be a publicist, that I could write something, and they would read me with interest. War and crises have opened a different side of my mind: the creative. It also sounds very strange, doesn't it? By and large, I'm glad that it happened. If not for war and crisis, I would be an ordinary person .. greedy, insidious and insatiable. Something seemed to stop me, some higher power .. and sent me along a different life path, it is more difficult, less profitable, but from this path, you get true human pleasure. This is not lust, nor debauchery, nor saturation .. it is something else that takes you to a completely different level of consciousness.

Thank!
I don’t remember exactly something around 40 ...

My Corporation.))) Bro: the company sounds very loud.)) Yes, we solder these lamps.
Profile of what? Corporation profile or what is the profile made of? )))

I have only a general idea about electronics, I do not solder these lamps. At the expense of skyscrapers, I understand this, because I'm a builder, and there are all kinds of photons there ... this is too much for me.)) I can now tell you something clever))), but it will be wrong, because I myself will I don’t understand this.
I will say one thing: these lamps are made strictly on the recommendation of OSRAM.
OSRAM is the only diode company that conducts research so deeply in crop production. Moreover, they singled out cannabis growing as a separate item. It would be foolish to challenge specialists whose products are used by NASA.

Samsung does not produce diodes for crop production, they for the most part produce diodes for domestic or street use. These diodes adapted ordinary growers for cultivation. Yes, there you can discuss for a long time what you need to add or remove from the lamp in order to achieve the optimal result for hemp. We should not experiment with OSRAM diodes, because we cannot afford such a level of research as OSRAM.

For the most part, the performance of this unit at such low capacities is technology dependent.

1. The shape of the box.
2. The technique of cultivation and training.
3. Space technology))) OSRAM.

Thus, we get the result 1/3 1/4, in the ratio of watts / gram with a power consumption of 37 watts. And this is a world record .. another one))), only in micro growth. And this is not pathos - believe me, Bro!

Yes, the vertical cultivation technique, as well as the Silo method, involves a long process. But the result will be no less, and even more, as if you were raising two short cycles.

Good to see you, comrade!

How are you? Where had you been?

We already kind of let go of this panic with the virus. Already more and more people go without masks and fins.))). In both Russia and Ukraine, people take to the streets, rejecting quarantine. In Russia, there have already been several clashes with the police. People in protest take to the streets, arrange festivities, with music and drinks .. The police arrive and soothe them for a very long time. Tired of all this virus already! But on television, it's just awful! If you watch this news, it becomes scary, not just scary, but it plunges you into horror. For any reason, this virus is mentioned .. Constantly some numbers are incomprehensible about the sick ... and I know perfectly well that in our local clinic there is not even a drug that would accurately determine the presence of this virus, but would not confuse it with pneumonia as usual !
You go out into the street, you think there will be mountains of corpses right on the streets ... Damn, nothing has changed on the street .. Except for the zombies in gas masks.)) It looks very sad.))) Like in the movie "Mad Max."

Good afternoon, bro!

If you say that marijuana is being stolen, then this is a common thing with us. If it’s an outsider, it’s very difficult to grow so that no one notices and doesn’t steal. It is much safer to grow in your apartment.

I'm fine, I didn't go anywhere. I just wasn't visiting here. The United States is also in lockdown since about March 15th. The natives are getting restless and don't want to stay at home and stay alive... I think Darwin has the answer for such people!

I think you should not out such blind faith in any LED manufacturer; instead, look at spectrum, efficiency and other specific parameters of performance. Samsung diodes are popular because they produce excellent spectrum, are very efficient and the price is good.

Which manufacturer's combination of features is the best changes over time. Five years ago, Cree was making some of the best COB chips, now others have similar it better performance at less cost. The good news is that no matter what you paid for them, having good quality chips is an investment that will last for a very long time!

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