Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

Where do you like to get your seeds? I will be needing some seeds after I flower my current plants. Prices are getting ridiculous on seeds, but I want to get some nice genetics!

Do you use feminized seed exclusively?

Sedan said:

Hi guys! I am from Ukraine and do not speak English very much, therefore briefly!

I want to know, can you? 1.6 kg / square meter.

Thank you for attention!

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I am really impressed with your setup and flower growth .

What strain is it? What nutrients do you feed?

Scott from San Diego

ElGrandeMongo said:

Where do you like to get your seeds? I will be needing some seeds after I flower my current plants. Prices are getting ridiculous on seeds, but I want to get some nice genetics!

Do you use feminized seed exclusively?

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Bro, you asked me an interesting question.

This is if I asked you where to buy a balalaika from Stradivari in Canada.)))

The Canadian government is now investing hundreds of millions of dollars in the cannabis industry, and it's all legal!

PS Bro, I see that you are a smart person and competent, I understand that you want to communicate with me, but you cannot find a common language with me yet. This is just a difference in mentality, don't worry!))) I don't need you to buy something from me or not, it doesn't matter. I define a person by his inner fullness, and not by his wallet. If it's not a secret, what is your profession?

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I am really impressed with your setup and flower growth .

What strain is it? What nutrients do you feed?

Scott from San Diego

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Hi Scott from San Diego!

The point is that you are showing a picture from what was several years ago. Now everything is a little different. I have revisited some aspects since then, with regard to nutrition and other things. Something has changed, something has decreased or added!

Then there was one thing, now it is a little different. The concept remains the same, but with improvements and improvements.

Then I overfeeded the plants so that there were big buds, but the quality of the final product suffered from this, now I try to make a better product, so I use less fertilizers.

Sedan said:

Bro, you asked me an interesting question.

This is if I asked you where to buy a balalaika from Stradivari in Canada.)))

The Canadian government is now investing hundreds of millions of dollars in the cannabis industry, and it's all legal!

PS Bro, I see that you are a smart person and competent, I understand that you want to communicate with me, but you cannot find a common language with me yet. This is just a difference in mentality, don't worry!))) I don't need you to buy something from me or not, it doesn't matter. I define a person by his inner fullness, and not by his wallet. If it's not a secret, what is your profession?

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The government made it legal, but seeds are not available through them so you still have to purchase them from "grey market" sources. The government is so incompetent that in many areas they managed to LOSE taxpayers money while selling cannabis at $250/oz. I cannot support such an inefficient system so if I do need to purchase I will continue to do so illegally (most people purchase from non government sources"

I work in "management" at a local company in the pipeline industry. I hold an MBA and the majority of my work is business analysis. Employer is very low stress by my standard, but does not pay to my expectations (and are using every excuse they can think of around covid19 to try to pay less) so I'm in the process of looking for other work. Regardless, I sit in an office working at my own pace and work regular office hours.

Sedan said:

Did your parents tell you this before contacting the CIA?
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Have Russians ever forced children to raise their hands up ???? !!!! It's a lie!!!! Never!!!!

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How can you make such a statement

ElGrandeMongo said:

The government made it legal, but seeds are not available through them so you still have to purchase them from "grey market" sources. The government is so incompetent that in many areas they managed to LOSE taxpayers money while selling cannabis at $250/oz. I cannot support such an inefficient system so if I do need to purchase I will continue to do so illegally (most people purchase from non government sources"

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Yes, I understand now what you mean!

When the state gets down to business, this is not something that a craftsman would do with his own hands.

Now I am engaged in a slightly different project in this area. So far there is no time to deal with seeds tightly. Once I finish the project with my Pegasus setup, I will go into genetics in the next step. In the meantime, my seed shop sells what is sold in the rest of Europe.

I cannot offer you anything so supernatural yet!

ElGrandeMongo said:

I work in "management" at a local company in the pipeline industry. I hold an MBA and the majority of my work is business analysis. Employer is very low stress by my standard, but does not pay to my expectations (and are using every excuse they can think of around covid19 to try to pay less) so I'm in the process of looking for other work. Regardless, I sit in an office working at my own pace and work regular office hours.

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I think that your boss is not deceiving you, businessmen are crying not only in Canada because of this virus ... Small and medium-sized businesses have suffered greatly during the virus. Of course, large companies belonging to ... even if indirectly government officials do not suffer losses, but profit! This is the case everywhere! As the Russians say: for whom is the war, and for whom is his mother dear!))

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How can you make such a statement

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Hello! My name is Dmitry. I am from the city of Kharkov.

If possible, introduce yourself and ask the question more specifically! I don't quite understand what you mean ...

dankyou1266 said:

I am really impressed with your setup and flower growth .

What strain is it? What nutrients do you feed?

Scott from San Diego

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still in san diego?? was needing to speak to a fellow 619 native about some homegrown genetics

Sedan said:

I think that your boss is not deceiving you, businessmen are crying not only in Canada because of this virus ... Small and medium-sized businesses have suffered greatly during the virus. Of course, large companies belonging to ... even if indirectly government officials do not suffer losses, but profit! This is the case everywhere! As the Russians say: for whom is the war, and for whom is his mother dear!))

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I am a man of principal. If a contract states X and they try to substitute Y, I will demand X and/or ask for a very good reason as to why they cannot provide X. I would expect the same from anyone who understands the true nature of a work relationship. I know the parameters change for those who are desperate, but thankfully I have worked to position myself in a way which I have many options regarding employment. I can easily refuse these attempts at being taken advantage of, and feel it is my duty to set the example for those who are in more desperate situations. Again your next meal is not worth your dignity.

I like to simplify my problems where possible to try to get a clear view of any situations that may arise in my life.

For example: If your employer promises you 1kg of apples at the end of a days work, but then the end of the day comes, they give you only 700g of apple, would not you either demand your 300g of apples, and if they were unwilling to act with honour, and honour their commitment to you?

What if they then offer 700g of apples and 300g of bananas? Do you accept as you now have 1kg? Or do you state that the value of banana is much lower than apple and they have still not fulfilled their obligations, and that it continually looks less and less like the original agreement...

How long would you tolerate this type of person, or employer, before you stray from your "loyalty" to that employer? They have shown that they either do not respect you enough, or they are overall a dishonourable organization or people, as they will not honour their commitments. I must admit, I take personal pride at this stage in finding other work, and then spitting back in the face of those who chose to spit at you. I also make sure my next work is at minimum at the rate of my previous before making my moves.

Sedan said:

Yes, I understand now what you mean!

When the state gets down to business, this is not something that a craftsman would do with his own hands.

Now I am engaged in a slightly different project in this area. So far there is no time to deal with seeds tightly. Once I finish the project with my Pegasus setup, I will go into genetics in the next step. In the meantime, my seed shop sells what is sold in the rest of Europe.

I cannot offer you anything so supernatural yet!


I think that your boss is not deceiving you, businessmen are crying not only in Canada because of this virus ... Small and medium-sized businesses have suffered greatly during the virus. Of course, large companies belonging to ... even if indirectly government officials do not suffer losses, but profit! This is the case everywhere! As the Russians say: for whom is the war, and for whom is his mother dear!))


Hello! My name is Dmitry. I am from the city of Kharkov.

If possible, introduce yourself and ask the question more specifically! I don't quite understand what you mean ...

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my comment was the comment on the post, stating 'Russians would never point a gun at a child'!!!!

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I am a man of principal. If a contract states X and they try to substitute Y, I will demand X and/or ask for a very good reason as to why they cannot provide X. I would expect the same from anyone who understands the true nature of a work relationship. I know the parameters change for those who are desperate, but thankfully I have worked to position myself in a way which I have many options regarding employment. I can easily refuse these attempts at being taken advantage of, and feel it is my duty to set the example for those who are in more desperate situations. Again your next meal is not worth your dignity.

I like to simplify my problems where possible to try to get a clear view of any situations that may arise in my life.

For example: If your employer promises you 1kg of apples at the end of a days work, but then the end of the day comes, they give you only 700g of apple, would not you either demand your 300g of apples, and if they were unwilling to act with honour, and honour their commitment to you?

What if they then offer 700g of apples and 300g of bananas? Do you accept as you now have 1kg? Or do you state that the value of banana is much lower than apple and they have still not fulfilled their obligations, and that it continually looks less and less like the original agreement...

How long would you tolerate this type of person, or employer, before you stray from your "loyalty" to that employer? They have shown that they either do not respect you enough, or they are overall a dishonourable organization or people, as they will not honour their commitments. I must admit, I take personal pride at this stage in finding other work, and then spitting back in the face of those who chose to spit at you. I also make sure my next work is at minimum at the rate of my previous before making my moves.

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This is probably why at the grand old age of 60 in march 2021 i must have had 200+ jobs in my lifetime, not many bosses appreciates their workers, i have probably had only one or two in my whole working life, i have never been downtrodden by any boss, did not matter if they were multi millionaires which many were, i spoke my mine and also told them, don't speak to me in that manner you cunt, many times, this was the main reason i started working for myself, fuck the companies who do dangerous shortcuts, all for the money not interested in peoples lives, i always refused to fit some metal balcony if i deemed it unsafe or dangerous even contacting relevant authorities to fuck up my money grabbing bosses company, lol
Megamouth

ElGrandeMongo said:

I am a man of principal. If a contract states X and they try to substitute Y, I will demand X and/or ask for a very good reason as to why they cannot provide X. I would expect the same from anyone who understands the true nature of a work relationship. I know the parameters change for those who are desperate, but thankfully I have worked to position myself in a way which I have many options regarding employment. I can easily refuse these attempts at being taken advantage of, and feel it is my duty to set the example for those who are in more desperate situations. Again your next meal is not worth your dignity.

I like to simplify my problems where possible to try to get a clear view of any situations that may arise in my life.

For example: If your employer promises you 1kg of apples at the end of a days work, but then the end of the day comes, they give you only 700g of apple, would not you either demand your 300g of apples, and if they were unwilling to act with honour, and honour their commitment to you?

What if they then offer 700g of apples and 300g of bananas? Do you accept as you now have 1kg? Or do you state that the value of banana is much lower than apple and they have still not fulfilled their obligations, and that it continually looks less and less like the original agreement...

How long would you tolerate this type of person, or employer, before you stray from your "loyalty" to that employer? They have shown that they either do not respect you enough, or they are overall a dishonourable organization or people, as they will not honour their commitments. I must admit, I take personal pride at this stage in finding other work, and then spitting back in the face of those who chose to spit at you. I also make sure my next work is at minimum at the rate of my previous before making my moves.

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Yes, I understand your point of view - it is subjective. But I try to consider any question objectively. That is why I tell you that the behavior of your employer is not surprising at all. And in this situation it is difficult to say whether he is a good or bad person. Because you don't know what state his business is in during the crisis. Perhaps your leader is suffering big losses. And this is essentially the same problem as your salary. There is no need to simplify or complicate anything - everything is clear here. He planned to receive such and such an amount, in the end: the crisis let him down, and he received a noticeably smaller amount of profit ... He, like you, will be very worried, nervous, and is trying to correct the situation in different ways. Of course: one of its options is to try to explain the situation with the global economic crisis to employees and employees, and temporarily make concessions .. Of course, employees will not like this, because they are not interested in the problems of their boss ...

But, if the boss is not a scoundrel and a sane, sagacious person, then he will never forget those workers, and when the crisis ends, he will certainly remember those workers who understood him and supported him at a difficult moment and will treat them especially, which assumes in the future career growth and salary increases.

But, If your boss is a fool, and you give in to him once, he will not calm down and will restrain you further. In this case, the employee who yielded to the owner out of kindness will lose!

Here you need to understand people in order to make the right decision, so as not to be mistaken !!!

I don't know how it is with you in Canada and the United States, but when a person comes to get a job in Ukraine, special attention is paid to how long he worked at the previous place of work, as well as if he does not have places where to write a new job, because he changes work like gloves, such people are also treated with caution.

megamouthuk said:

Russians would never point a gun at a child'!!!!

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You misunderstood me. Not to threaten weapons, but to escort a five-year-old child with raised hands are two different things !!! There was a "Hitler Youth", there were teenagers from 13 years old somewhere, they were armed with Panzer Faust, and they fired at Russian tanks. Of course, quite a few of these children were killed then, but these children were in arms and in the Wehrmacht's uniform.

My grow room is 50 m3 with a 5 m3 flower tent. The appliances in the room are heater, fans, AC, humidifier. de-humidifier. The heater, fans, and AC is rated 500 m3 and I have no control at source. The humidifier is too small and the air is 40% RH. Target RH is 60%. How does Pegasus installation solve this problem?

Sedan said:

Yes, I understand your point of view - it is subjective. But I try to consider any question objectively. That is why I tell you that the behavior of your employer is not surprising at all. And in this situation it is difficult to say whether he is a good or bad person. Because you don't know what state his business is in during the crisis. Perhaps your leader is suffering big losses. And this is essentially the same problem as your salary. There is no need to simplify or complicate anything - everything is clear here. He planned to receive such and such an amount, in the end: the crisis let him down, and he received a noticeably smaller amount of profit ... He, like you, will be very worried, nervous, and is trying to correct the situation in different ways. Of course: one of its options is to try to explain the situation with the global economic crisis to employees and employees, and temporarily make concessions .. Of course, employees will not like this, because they are not interested in the problems of their boss ...

But, if the boss is not a scoundrel and a sane, sagacious person, then he will never forget those workers, and when the crisis ends, he will certainly remember those workers who understood him and supported him at a difficult moment and will treat them especially, which assumes in the future career growth and salary increases.

But, If your boss is a fool, and you give in to him once, he will not calm down and will restrain you further. In this case, the employee who yielded to the owner out of kindness will lose!

Here you need to understand people in order to make the right decision, so as not to be mistaken !!!

I don't know how it is with you in Canada and the United States, but when a person comes to get a job in Ukraine, special attention is paid to how long he worked at the previous place of work, as well as if he does not have places where to write a new job, because he changes work like gloves, such people are also treated with caution.

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I understand what you're saying completely. Maybe I should have been more clear about my position. I have access to the company financials. I know they are being dishonest. They are dishonest both to the government, to be able to collect the business subsidies which have popped up due to the wuflu, and to their employees by attempting to reduce payroll whilst collecting subsidy. They have chosen to harm those who help them in order to get some extra cash without doing honest work. Not something I can respect at all, so my tolerance with them is little because I know they will act dishonourably and against the needs of their honest employees who do want to put in the work.

The only excuse I can think of for them is that they are entirely out of touch with reality. Here's a small example from this past year. The owner of the business (he's in his 70s, his son now runs the business), during the lockdowns and period of hardship would show up to the office in a different car every day, and go around chatting with the staff about how great the weather has been and how he has plenty of time to go golfing, or bring his cars out now with the lockdowns. This was while they had reduced the wages of their lowest pay staff to well below a livable wage. Of course in their desperation they smile and will "happily" chat with him, but I can feel their disgust, and share it, as although I am not hurting for a paycheck, I have not at all lost touch with the struggle the average person goes thorugh.

ElGrandeMongo said:

I understand what you're saying completely. Maybe I should have been more clear about my position. I have access to the company financials. I know they are being dishonest. They are dishonest both to the government, to be able to collect the business subsidies which have popped up due to the wuflu, and to their employees by attempting to reduce payroll whilst collecting subsidy. They have chosen to harm those who help them in order to get some extra cash without doing honest work. Not something I can respect at all, so my tolerance with them is little because I know they will act dishonourably and against the needs of their honest employees who do want to put in the work.

The only excuse I can think of for them is that they are entirely out of touch with reality. Here's a small example from this past year. The owner of the business (he's in his 70s, his son now runs the business), during the lockdowns and period of hardship would show up to the office in a different car every day, and go around chatting with the staff about how great the weather has been and how he has plenty of time to go golfing, or bring his cars out now with the lockdowns. This was while they had reduced the wages of their lowest pay staff to well below a livable wage. Of course in their desperation they smile and will "happily" chat with him, but I can feel their disgust, and share it, as although I am not hurting for a paycheck, I have not at all lost touch with the struggle the average person goes thorugh.

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Bro, I perfectly understand your opinion, as the opinion of an employee under a contract. Yes, but this is again a subjective opinion!

Let me try to express now an objective opinion:

You apply for a job in which you have access to the company's financial statements. You work ... you have access .. you see how your company conducts illegal activities .. you are silent .. until the time when the crisis comes and your salary is cut! Only then do you wake up from sleep .. and realize that the owners of your company are bastards.

1. Why, as soon as you found out about illegal financial transactions in your company, you didn’t immediately contact the police?

2. Or why, as soon as you didn’t find out about illegal operations, you didn’t turn to the independent press and media like Snowden or at worst like Martin Luther King?

3. Why, when you found out that your boss is a swindler, when you met him, didn’t denounce him beautifully, but at the end you would throw a cup of coffee in his face and say proudly to him: “I quit, I don’t work with such a bastard will!!!"

4. Why, seeing what kind of lawlessness is happening in your company, were not afraid and left quietly and got a job in another company? Or in Canada, high-paying jobs only in illegal companies or those companies that run unscrupulous business?

5. If you didn’t do anything: why didn’t you collect material about the company and blackmail it and asked for $ 5 million?

6, There is another way - to lick your boss's ass, then he will raise your salary over time.

Bro, you have so many options! You can choose which one you want!

solakani said:

My grow room is 50 m3 with a 5 m3 flower tent. The appliances in the room are heater, fans, AC, humidifier. de-humidifier. The heater, fans, and AC is rated 500 m3 and I have no control at source. The humidifier is too small and the air is 40% RH. Target RH is 60%. How does Pegasus installation solve this problem?

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Probably your room is more than 50m3. This is your area of 50m2.

Do you want to solve the problem of humidity and temperature?

Pegasus is a very small space, compared to your tent, it is much easier to adjust the humidity there.

Bro, I just don't understand why you need to install a Pegasus in a room of 50m2, size 0, 64 m2 (80cmX80cm)? Or, besides Pegasus, do you want to place a living room there for receiving guests?))) Then it is better to put another fireplace and a bar counter))) And also a dance floor!)))

Sedan said:

Bro, I perfectly understand your opinion, as the opinion of an employee under a contract. Yes, but this is again a subjective opinion!

Let me try to express now an objective opinion:

You apply for a job in which you have access to the company's financial statements. You work ... you have access .. you see how your company conducts illegal activities .. you are silent .. until the time when the crisis comes and your salary is cut! Only then do you wake up from sleep .. and realize that the owners of your company are bastards.

1. Why, as soon as you found out about illegal financial transactions in your company, you didn’t immediately contact the police?

2. Or why, as soon as you didn’t find out about illegal operations, you didn’t turn to the independent press and media like Snowden or at worst like Martin Luther King?

3. Why, when you found out that your boss is a swindler, when you met him, didn’t denounce him beautifully, but at the end you would throw a cup of coffee in his face and say proudly to him: “I quit, I don’t work with such a bastard will!!!"

4. Why, seeing what kind of lawlessness is happening in your company, were not afraid and left quietly and got a job in another company? Or in Canada, high-paying jobs only in illegal companies or those companies that run unscrupulous business?

5. If you didn’t do anything: why didn’t you collect material about the company and blackmail it and asked for $ 5 million?

Bro, you have so many options! You can choose which one you want!

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Very fair questions. Will try to bring some clarity to how things are here.

1&2. The transactions are not illegal, but seems more to be a "grey area" left in these funding schemes to allow employers to abuse however they like. Another good way to transfer taxpayer money to the wealthier groups. Very little government oversight on the funding.

3. They did not show that they were this way until midway through this year. I have directly informed the employer every step of the way that their actions are disgraceful. This kind of ties in to my answer for #4

4. I am in the process of looking for other work, I have no problems leaving an employer to find another. But instead of shooting myself in the foot and quitting right away, I am applying for other positions while I'm supposed to be working! (they pay less, they now get less work during work hours --- 700g of apple for 700g apple worth of work!). Most of the time I am posting on here I am at my office collecting pay

If you quit your job in Canada you get nothing, if your employer terminates you without good cause then you have a claim and look for compensation. Creates a strange scenario where the winning strategy almost becomes to sour the relationship within the rules until they let you go.

What "high paying work" is, is also subjective. I can only say that the jobs that pay the rates I expect are a fairly small minority, and many larger corporations are putting off hiring until the new year.

5. Because I am not an (((extortionist))). Especially since the employer has been operating within the law, it likely wouldn't be very effective.

So really I've chosen an option that wasn't listed. For each clawback on the contract, I willingly clawback my contribution. Fair is fair! I will continue to look elsewhere, and maybe even take some additional technical courses of interest while on the clock. As you say, many options, but I need to balance the needs and comfort of myself and my woman. Sometimes have to play the long game -- look at the goal over the next years not days.

Grow room 3m x 6m x 2.4m. 3 x tent 150cm x 150 cm x 240cm. My problem is the heat and fan is too strong for my tent and too little for the room. The goal is to create 3 different environments for seedling, veg and flower in one room.

ElGrandeMongo said:

1&2. The transactions are not illegal, but seems more to be a "grey area" left in these funding schemes to allow employers to abuse however they like. Another good way to transfer taxpayer money to the wealthier groups. Very little government oversight on the funding.

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1; 2. Then it's a little more complicated. You need to lobby for a bill to the Canadian Parliament to change the financial legislation in this area.

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3. They did not show that they were this way until midway through this year. I have directly informed the employer every step of the way that their actions are disgraceful. This kind of ties in to my answer for #4

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3. Yes, such statements will definitely not increase your salary, and also limit your access. No one wants to have an unreliable person on their staff when it comes to big money

ElGrandeMongo said:

4. I am in the process of looking for other work, I have no problems leaving an employer to find another. But instead of shooting myself in the foot and quitting right away, I am applying for other positions while I'm supposed to be working! (they pay less, they now get less work during work hours --- 700g of apple for 700g apple worth of work!). Most of the time I am posting on here I am at my office collecting pay

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4. Yes, office workers usually have a lot of free time at work, we do the same.

High-paying job in this context is the job and the salary that you want to receive in your specialty. Yes, this is subjectively unambiguous.

ElGrandeMongo said:

5. Because I am not an (((extortionist))). Especially since the employer has been operating within the law, it likely wouldn't be very effective.

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5. Bro, the last post is mostly ironic, so don't take my words so seriously.

ElGrandeMongo said:

So really I've chosen an option that wasn't listed. For each clawback on the contract, I willingly clawback my contribution. Fair is fair! I will continue to look elsewhere, and maybe even take some additional technical courses of interest while on the clock. As you say, many options, but I need to balance the needs and comfort of myself and my woman. Sometimes have to play the long game -- look at the goal over the next years not days.

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Now I will say seriously and frankly: Bro, if we in Ukraine had the same problems as you, then all Ukrainians would be happy!

If I start to tell you what is happening in the financial sector, then you probably will not believe me.)) We have those in power who consider ordinary people to be cattle. showing neither respect, nor shame, nor pity, even for the elderly and children, they rob them, to put it simply. There is no middle class in Ukraine, there is only an upper and a lower one. Namely, the well-being of the entire country is determined by the well-being and the percentage of the middle class. And in Ukraine it is impossible to determine, because there is no middle class at all!

solakani said:

Grow room 3m x 6m x 2.4m. 3 x tent 150cm x 150 cm x 240cm. My problem is the heat and fan is too strong for my tent and too little for the room. The goal is to create 3 different environments for seedling, veg and flower in one room.

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If you want to let out of 3 tents into the room, then of course you will not succeed, only on the street.


First of all, I would not advise you to use so many tents. Put one for vega. The vega tent does not require a lot of light power and ventilation. Everything else you grow just in the room. You have 18m2. For such an area, you need a hood of at least 1000 m3 or better 2X600 m3. 1000 m3 is very noisy, therefore 2X600 is better. An inflow from the street is also required.

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First of all, I would not advise you to use so many tents. Put one for vega. The vega tent does not require a lot of light power and ventilation. Everything else you grow just in the room. You have 18m2. For such an area, you need a hood of at least 1000 m3 or better 2X600 m3. 1000 m3 is very noisy, therefore 2X600 is better. An inflow from the street is also required.

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Thank you for your help with my ventilation problem for grow room. It is -6C outside. What hood do you recommend?

ElGrandeMongo said:

I understand what you're saying completely. Maybe I should have been more clear about my position. I have access to the company financials. I know they are being dishonest. They are dishonest both to the government, to be able to collect the business subsidies which have popped up due to the wuflu, and to their employees by attempting to reduce payroll whilst collecting subsidy. They have chosen to harm those who help them in order to get some extra cash without doing honest work. Not something I can respect at all, so my tolerance with them is little because I know they will act dishonourably and against the needs of their honest employees who do want to put in the work.

The only excuse I can think of for them is that they are entirely out of touch with reality. Here's a small example from this past year. The owner of the business (he's in his 70s, his son now runs the business), during the lockdowns and period of hardship would show up to the office in a different car every day, and go around chatting with the staff about how great the weather has been and how he has plenty of time to go golfing, or bring his cars out now with the lockdowns. This was while they had reduced the wages of their lowest pay staff to well below a livable wage. Of course in their desperation they smile and will "happily" chat with him, but I can feel their disgust, and share it, as although I am not hurting for a paycheck, I have not at all lost touch with the struggle the average person goes thorugh.

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i would inform the authorities regarding their claiming monies which they are doing fraudulently whilst pissing on their downtrodden staff/workforce.
Megamouthuk