CannaOnerStar
Well-Known Member
I dont see much discussion about what people are trying to get out of their breeding, so i thought this would be a nice topic of discussion.
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Personally i have mostly thrown around pollen with various autoflowers in the past. But now i have some stuff going on with actual aims.
First is an autoflower project(alaskan thunder fuck, low ryder, wedding cake), in which i used alaskan thunderfuck crossed with low ryder to F3 to make it autoflower pollen thrown on best out of 7 wedding cake autos. The thunderfuck ryder male was exceptionally vigorous and was much bigger than average auto when it flowered, might had been the most vigorous plant i ever grown. Anyways it looked like it would had become big if i had let it grow more than make a tiny bit of pollen. So i selected from wedding cakes the tall pheno that still had good size side branches. The pheno was best bud to leaf ratio from the wedding cakes and best yielder along with a bit shorter and bushier pheno(which had leafier buds, but equally strong still).
Now the babies of these alaskan ryder cake autos or whatevers just started showing preflowers under a week ago(male bit over a week ago). I didnt have room to grow more than 4 of these. I got 2 males and 2 females, funnily there were very clearly two phenos, one male and female of each pheno. One pheno that i will use for F2 seeds is very tall(already about 50cm, even tho it only just started flowering) but still good size side branches. Besides making babies between the tall male and female, i will also throw a bit of pollen from tall male to a bit shorter female. The short male i threw away when i saw it was a male, because i wanted to go for big plants. These things seem like they are going to be huuuuge. Most likely i will then select from F2 plants these tall and good side branch phenos and make feminised F3 seeds with them, because F2 should bring more variation to phenotypes and also i would prefer ending up with fem seeds.
Im not interested n stabilising this too much when it comes to things like high for example, i rather have some variation in phenos, but still in general tall and branchy.
Another project i have just starting out is freakshow x amherst sour diesel, and maybe get some freakshow x triple g(gelato x gorilla glue) seeds later. From thee my aim is not to start breeding freakshow like plants, but i want some of that leaf frostiness, unique terpenes and hopefully just a little bit of the mutation, but overall normal plants. For this i dont have such clear aims to what i want from the plants growth pattern. It might be a fail, or it might produce something special. i was kinda thinking of going with it and seeing what comes. I also have a nice freakshow female keeper i have cuttings of that i might use to make feminised freakshow x triple g F1 seeds later, as i also keep a cutting of the triple g. F1 should have little to no mutation from freakshow, but it should get some of its characteristics. Maybe ill make F1 fem seeds between amherst freak and triple freak, which to the freakshow fathers side would be F2 and that combo should start to show a little more freakiness in leafs, but still overall quite normal plants. Impossible to know what comes out of
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What sort of aims do you have in your current breeding programs, or have had in the past and did you succeed to get what you want? Or do you just throw pollen around? What do you wish to accomplish with the pollen you threw or have you had something special come out of some pollen tossing?
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Personally i have mostly thrown around pollen with various autoflowers in the past. But now i have some stuff going on with actual aims.
First is an autoflower project(alaskan thunder fuck, low ryder, wedding cake), in which i used alaskan thunderfuck crossed with low ryder to F3 to make it autoflower pollen thrown on best out of 7 wedding cake autos. The thunderfuck ryder male was exceptionally vigorous and was much bigger than average auto when it flowered, might had been the most vigorous plant i ever grown. Anyways it looked like it would had become big if i had let it grow more than make a tiny bit of pollen. So i selected from wedding cakes the tall pheno that still had good size side branches. The pheno was best bud to leaf ratio from the wedding cakes and best yielder along with a bit shorter and bushier pheno(which had leafier buds, but equally strong still).
Now the babies of these alaskan ryder cake autos or whatevers just started showing preflowers under a week ago(male bit over a week ago). I didnt have room to grow more than 4 of these. I got 2 males and 2 females, funnily there were very clearly two phenos, one male and female of each pheno. One pheno that i will use for F2 seeds is very tall(already about 50cm, even tho it only just started flowering) but still good size side branches. Besides making babies between the tall male and female, i will also throw a bit of pollen from tall male to a bit shorter female. The short male i threw away when i saw it was a male, because i wanted to go for big plants. These things seem like they are going to be huuuuge. Most likely i will then select from F2 plants these tall and good side branch phenos and make feminised F3 seeds with them, because F2 should bring more variation to phenotypes and also i would prefer ending up with fem seeds.
Im not interested n stabilising this too much when it comes to things like high for example, i rather have some variation in phenos, but still in general tall and branchy.
Another project i have just starting out is freakshow x amherst sour diesel, and maybe get some freakshow x triple g(gelato x gorilla glue) seeds later. From thee my aim is not to start breeding freakshow like plants, but i want some of that leaf frostiness, unique terpenes and hopefully just a little bit of the mutation, but overall normal plants. For this i dont have such clear aims to what i want from the plants growth pattern. It might be a fail, or it might produce something special. i was kinda thinking of going with it and seeing what comes. I also have a nice freakshow female keeper i have cuttings of that i might use to make feminised freakshow x triple g F1 seeds later, as i also keep a cutting of the triple g. F1 should have little to no mutation from freakshow, but it should get some of its characteristics. Maybe ill make F1 fem seeds between amherst freak and triple freak, which to the freakshow fathers side would be F2 and that combo should start to show a little more freakiness in leafs, but still overall quite normal plants. Impossible to know what comes out of
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What sort of aims do you have in your current breeding programs, or have had in the past and did you succeed to get what you want? Or do you just throw pollen around? What do you wish to accomplish with the pollen you threw or have you had something special come out of some pollen tossing?
