Which Lighting for that small tent.

Fiete

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easily happens when time is passing and theyre constantly growing.

DIY is quite easy, but if you never did then i dont know.
problem with the amazon offerings is to know which diodes they really use.
if you dont want to diy, there is may some small growlight with good diodes and driver plus a dimmer, so you can underdrive it for your purpose.

But which one? Maybe this Board here https://todogrowled.com/en/hlg-quantum-boards/183-426-hlg-100-quantum-board.html#/28-target-full_cycle_enhanced_veg_phase_4000_k
 

cobshopgrow

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12W? i thought thats such a zeus board with some hangers.
they can take way more then 12W.
above still would need a driver, so its half diy still.
but its just 2 wires from the driver to the board and you prob need to connect a plug to the driver.
you can basically take as many leds you want and can drive them as low you want.
on the quick checking another german shop.
that fixture could be a nice fit with some propper led strips (none included, needs right lengh).

i get a error when trying moflows link, i have no overview over the recent prices.
but after a quick check, DIY for your area would be worth it.
 
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Boatguy

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i would also diy such a thing.
btw. am using 20w older cob style leds in a 50x70x50cm box for small mothers and else.
2 cob light sources arent optimal in there, i would prefer many strips on the roof instead for a better spread.
its clear to see what the light spots are causing, i rotate the plants on a regular base to avoid it as best i can.
I did a micro grow with some tiny cobs years ago as well. They worked great..
Cree 1507's. Only a 28" tall wine fridge
 

Fiete

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12W? i thought thats such a zeus board with some hangers.
they can take way more then 12W.
above still would need a driver, so its half diy still.
but its just 2 wires from the driver to the board and you prob need to connect a plug to the driver.
you can basically take as many leds you want and can drive them as low you want.
on the quick checking another german shop.
that fixture could be a nice fit with some propper led strips (none included, needs right lengh).

i get a error when trying moflows link, i have no overview over the recent prices.
but after a quick check, DIY for your area would be worth it.

Yeah looks good what you think from this 2 boards together it's dimbale...
 

cobshopgrow

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above was just after a quick look.
both stores are local to you, i guess you could give them a call too if you want.
riging up one led board is a quite easy task.
i would prob build me a small frame out of 2020 profile and mount them like i did on my light in the thread.
not up to date but could be i would take 10 bridgleux strips, likely eb3 slims as theyre 32cm and 1 footers are a little less long, 2 footers dont fit, so bridgelux eb3 slim.
could be ledtech have 50cm strips btw. they may fit your tent?
10 strips as its where the first pricedrop is at digikey and free shipping.
plus a driver, moflow linked a 60w, sounds fine, get a dimmer/potentiometer too.
i would wire some in series for sure, but all in parallel is more straight forward and will do fine.

while... this would need some basic DIY knowledge building led lights.
other way is to look for a fixture which fits your space and dim it very low, there is no problem with that theyre just often quite pricey or to what i ve found on the quick technically quite bad (while they would do for sure).
or theyre technically good but offer too little diodes/spread and need to be hung too high for your space.
 

cobshopgrow

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Yeah looks good what you think from this 2 boards together it's dimbale...
if you can fit 2 boards why not, overkill but a good solution.
i would be happy with it, lets say it like this.
it can be done cheaper and maybe slightly less spread will do fine too, but you will be on the safe side.
one board is allready not so bad either, filling quite some of the ceiling.
2 boards are made for way more wattage normally, but they will run very very efficient this way.
i would aim for 20-30W only for this area, nice to have a bit more at hand when needed, a 40-60W driver will do for veg for sure.
maybe others have better options, i just had a quick look at the usual german shops as you linked one from there.
 

Fiete

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if you can fit 2 boards why not, overkill but a good solution.
i would be happy with it, lets say it like this.
it can be done cheaper and maybe slightly less spread will do fine too, but you will be on the safe side.
one board is allready not so bad either, filling quite some of the ceiling.
2 boards are made for way more wattage normally, but they will run very very efficient this way.
i would aim for 20-30W only for this area, nice to have a bit more at hand when needed, a 40-60W driver will do for veg for sure.
maybe others have better options, i just had a quick look at the usual german shops as you linked one from there.

Hey, is this Board ready to Go Plug and Play? Maybe I buy 2 Board from this if I don't do much DYI ore 2 times this is also an Option ore I buy 1 of this and look if it's lighting good https://www.grow-shop24.de/Secret-Jardin-TLED-Zusatzbeleuchtung-26W-Wachstum


Edit: what you think 2 of these https://www.growland.net/Secret-Jardin-Cosmorrow-Wuchs-LED-20W#tab-votes

Maybe not good quality?
 
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cobshopgrow

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hm, there is not much technical info given.
you cant dim any of them, spread isnt that great either.
cheapest and prob best would be to wire up some strips diy still.
maybe one of the shops you allready found offer a so called qb288 with a driver in a set?
btw. just seeing ledtech.de offers a chat over daytime its active now, simply ask them for a complete set for 1 or 2 of their zeus xt, color temp 3500 to 5000k (both will be fine).
they will instruct you, they even have videos showing how to do, its dam easy.
or check out ama or ebay and buy some small ready made chinese fixture.

edit 5k is fine too for what you do, would take 4k or 5k myself prob.
 
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Fiete

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hm, there is not much technical info given.
you cant dim any of them, spread isnt that great either.
cheapest and prob best would be to wire up some strips diy still.
maybe one of the shops you allready found offer a so called qb288 with a driver in a set?
btw. just seeing ledtech.de offers a chat over daytime its active now, simply ask them for a complete set for 1 or 2 of their zeus xt, color temp 3500 to 5000k (both will be fine).
they will instruct you, they even have videos showing how to do, its dam easy.
or check out ama or ebay and buy some small ready made chinese fixture.

edit 5k is fine too for what you do, would take 4k or 5k myself prob.

I found this on Amazon the seller gave the link to Amazon 2 pieces of them
 

Fiete

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too little leds on a too small area for your usecase i would say.
if you wanna buy local maybe check out ledtech.de.
just a very quick look there.
i would take my time to check all avaiable offerings.
above is at least giving some better spread the the hlg65.

Hi friend, happy new year... This board are someone from a German Chanel say this is great to coverage the space very efficient! So thank you I belive i would buy it... A other guy give me this Panel also

 

cobshopgrow

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that doesnt look bad and should work.
it is very similar to the zeus xt board linked above, its just a complete set with driver.
the zeus board have the benefit of being wider by a 10cm which is a big plus in my books.
the bloomtech one is just 19cm right?
i completly understand that youre not after DIY, but am quite sure the led tech guys could send you a complete set too very similar to what you showen above.

in the end a lot will work in your tent as long you can dim it, but aiming for a as wide spread as posible do really make sense when the ceiling is that near.
while have to say i am easily start to nitpick there.
 

Fiete

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that doesnt look bad and should work.
it is very similar to the zeus xt board linked above, its just a complete set with driver.
the zeus board have the benefit of being wider by a 10cm which is a big plus in my books.
the bloomtech one is just 19cm right?
i completly understand that youre not after DIY, but am quite sure the led tech guys could send you a complete set too very similar to what you showen above.

in the end a lot will work in your tent as long you can dim it, but aiming for a as wide spread as posible do really make sense when the ceiling is that near.
while have to say i am easily start to nitpick there.
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cobshopgrow

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yeah, it can be a bit confusing at first.
ive checked what they have.
for their 75W elg driver the 1.4A is the only option, its 27 ~ 54V and as far i see your panels want about 37V, so that would be fine.
they also have a elg 100w 42V driver for 35€, that would also work.
the 75W AB driver needs a external dimmer, the 100W only have a onboard screw to set output.
i dont know how low you can go with the internal dimming screw ? @Rocket Soul , mr.a type ,its a elg driver but you may have a guess.

ledtechs online chat in online btw.
i would simply contact them directly.

you will want wires and connectors needed, as also a simple dimmer if you buy the AB type one.
they will know all that and prob can make you a bundle.
 

Rocket Soul

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yeah, it can be a bit confusing at first.
ive checked what they have.
for their 75W elg driver the 1.4A is the only option, its 27 ~ 54V and as far i see your panels want about 37V, so that would be fine.
they also have a elg 100w 42V driver for 35€, that would also work.
the 75W AB driver needs a external dimmer, the 100W only have a onboard screw to set output.
i dont know how low you can go with the internal dimming screw ? @Rocket Soul , mr.a type ,its a elg driver but you may have a guess.

ledtechs online chat in online btw.
i would simply contact them directly.

you will want wires and connectors needed, as also a simple dimmer if you buy the AB type one.
they will know all that and prob can make you a bundle.
Dimming is speced at 50-100%, but generally it goes a bit lower. Closest to reality number is in the test report on meanwells site, usually more accurate than the datasheet.
 

Fiete

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yeah, it can be a bit confusing at first.
ive checked what they have.
for their 75W elg driver the 1.4A is the only option, its 27 ~ 54V and as far i see your panels want about 37V, so that would be fine.
they also have a elg 100w 42V driver for 35€, that would also work.
the 75W AB driver needs a external dimmer, the 100W only have a onboard screw to set output.
i dont know how low you can go with the internal dimming screw ? @Rocket Soul , mr.a type ,its a elg driver but you may have a guess.

ledtechs online chat in online btw.
i would simply contact them directly.

you will want wires and connectors needed, as also a simple dimmer if you buy the AB type one.
they will know all that and prob can make you a bundle.

You Help a lot you a great guy... I chat but no online but we have new year in Germany and tomorrow it's sunnday noworking day Monday they will online maybe sooner
 

Rocket Soul

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Is it 37V board? Id go for any of the 36A meanwell drivers, you can adjust voltage up to 37V, no problem. Like elg75-36A. Not sure all the AB drivers have voltage regulation.
 
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