Why no conclusive side by side defoliation topics

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possum 1

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As long as you have the CFM to maintain circulation.

Wet, dirty and apparent mildew and mold on concrete scares me though.

Nice grow in need of routine maintaining though.
The picture just looks like that it’s cluttered in this picture ,but that’s water on the floor and i had the floor painted white and the paint started peeling.There is no soil of any kind in there and the only place maybe a little mildew is on the block. The picture is just deceiving!!!
 

MICHI-CAN

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The picture just looks like that it’s cluttered in this picture ,but that’s water on the floor and i had the floor painted white and the paint started peeling.There is no soil of any kind in there and the only place maybe a little mildew is on the block. The picture is just deceiving!!!
I live in MI. Standard basement in most older homes. Mold will bite you. Paint peeled because the floor was not properly prepared and cement was not dry. Giant humidifier. I gave my insight. No attacks. Hope I'm wrong for your girls sake.
 

WubbaLubbaDubDub

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The picture just looks like that it’s cluttered in this picture ,but that’s water on the floor and i had the floor painted white and the paint started peeling.There is no soil of any kind in there and the only place maybe a little mildew is on the block. The picture is just deceiving!!!
If you don’t have problems keep on trucking.

after this grow i’d suggest bleaching the walls with 10% solution or cleaning with 99.9% iso.
And grab a can of killz anti mold white paint for the floor and walls.

edit-wanted to clarify bleach solution
 
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possum 1

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As long as you have the CFM to maintain circulation.

Wet, dirty and apparent mildew and mold on concrete scares me though.

Nice grow in need of routine maintaining though.
I had to take it out of the bucket and put it in a 15 gallon tote it’s nice plant.
 

possum 1

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If you don’t have problems keep on trucking.

after this grow it suggest bleaching the walls or cleaning with 99.9% iso.
And grab a can of killz white paint for the floor and walls
i’m going to!But the pic makes it look way worse then it really is. There’s water in the floor and the paint peeling on the floor.If you seen it in person i believe you would have a different opinion!
 

MICHI-CAN

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If you don’t have problems keep on trucking.

after this grow it suggest bleaching the walls or cleaning with 99.9% iso.
And grab a can of killz white paint for the floor and walls
As a decades long painter dealing with many hundreds of basement reclamation's I say no bleach. The mold reacts by releasing all its spores. These are then spread by wiping and adhered by the bleach which breaks down into water before the spores are killed. Causing a further spread and larger outbreak than started with. Copper safe and a good scrubbing with stiff brush. Then rinse. Completely dry with air and elevated heat. Tape a piece of plastic to the wall and floor when you believe to be dry. If it condensates under it. It is still wet. Prime with a good oil based mold inhibiting primer. Then paint everything with an epoxy. "Tile-Clad" from Sherman Williams is an easy fairly cheap bullet proof product. Requires a chemical respirator use. And all tools will be junk afterwards. And an acid wash is highly suggested for the floor to get proper adhesion and durability.

Just trying to help people improve the quality of their homes and air in it. Mold is very bad.
 

WubbaLubbaDubDub

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As a decades long painter dealing with many hundreds of basement reclamation's I say no bleach. The mold reacts by releasing all its spores. These are then spread by wiping and adhered by the bleach which breaks down into water before the spores are killed. Causing a further spread and larger outbreak than started with. Copper safe and a good scrubbing with stiff brush. Then rinse. Completely dry with air and elevated heat. Tape a piece of plastic to the wall and floor when you believe to be dry. If it condensates under it. It is still wet. Prime with a good oil based mold inhibiting primer. Then paint everything with an epoxy. "Tile-Clad" from Sherman Williams is an easy fairly cheap bullet proof product. Requires a chemical respirator use. And all tools will be junk afterwards. And an acid wash is highly suggested for the floor to get proper adhesion and durability.

Just trying to help people improve the quality of their homes and air in it. Mold is very bad.
That is very interesting thank you for the information.
I figured as long as his grow is done he’s safe from getting mold on his buds with the bleach, but your totally right it could spread through the whole house
 

possum 1

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That is very interesting thank you for the information.
I figured as long as his grow is done he’s safe from getting mold on his buds with the bleach, but your totally right it could spread through the whole house
It’s all done. Turned out great and i’ve already taken care of the problem. It wasn’t that bad most of what looks like mold was just dirt.All i had to do is take a scrub brush and some good soap and water and it came clean. Turned the dehumidifier up got the humidity down to 20 and painted it. looks like brand new!!! The walls already had block rubber paint it came totally clean and i just repainted the floor.
 

Dr. Who

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You guys have to start learning that buds, even lower ones.
Do not require direct light to develop and grow!

Direct light exposure DOES help ripen the buds.

To that end. Simply harvest the tops and the "done" product and leave the remaining buds in bloom, under the light for 2 more weeks.

You'll also find that the quality of the buzz is better on the second harvest. Rather intense really.
I have regular patients that only buy the late harvest....
 

MICHI-CAN

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You guys have to start learning that buds, even lower ones.
Do not require direct light to develop and grow!

Direct light exposure DOES help ripen the buds.

To that end. Simply harvest the tops and the "done" product and leave the remaining buds in bloom, under the light for 2 more weeks.

You'll also find that the quality of the buzz is better on the second harvest. Rather intense really.
I have regular patients that only buy the late harvest....
A bit more than a light fetish here. But you are correct.
 

fartoblue

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I do feel over the last year or so there are less defoliators than before, maybe some have tried it and realized it is not what it is cracked up to be.
Defoliation topics usually were at least 50/50
You guys have to start learning that buds, even lower ones.
Do not require direct light to develop and grow!

Direct light exposure DOES help ripen the buds.

To that end. Simply harvest the tops and the "done" product and leave the remaining buds in bloom, under the light for 2 more weeks.

You'll also find that the quality of the buzz is better on the second harvest. Rather intense really.
I have regular patients that only buy the late harvest....

"You guys have to start learning that buds, even lower ones.
Do not require direct light to develop and grow!

Direct light exposure DOES help ripen the buds."


That's what I wanted to hear from someone who's advice I trust.
Thanks Doc
 

Fevs.

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I've been dicking around with defoliating for about a year, been growing for 11 years. I'm stopping defoliating now. I'm totally convinced it slows the plants down. In fact I have had plants run nearly a month longer than their clones. Their clones nearly caught them up in flowering. For me just get a hurricane fan on the floor, set it on a timer so on comes on for like 15 minutes and hour or so. I'm leaving it all on now.

This is the last plant that I have defoliated in flowering.

Defoliating in veg though, FUCK YEAH!

Got to create those tops. Here is my single lemon skunk plant on day 32 of 12/12. I will always defoliate in veg, for me veg is where the yield is achieved, but now I'm going heavy then, but gining it like 7-10 days to recover. Top the shit out of it then too..

Flowering, NO WAY am I defoliating in flowering again, as long as my ass points downwards I'm leaving those leaves on from now.

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There are enough leaves for this plant to do great, but plants prior to this I ended up running for ages. I defoliated the piss out of sweet seeds cream mandarin fast version. Supposed to be 42-49 days flower. It went 100 days of 12/12 becuase I just halted the whole fucking grow. I'm sold on leaving those leaves on! :weed:
 

Homegrown Hero

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Swami talks about listening to your plants, and doing what they ask. Once you get in tune with the needs of your plants, they will tell you which leaves to cut. He’s also an old school hippy, but his logic and attitude towards the plant is very holistic and compassionate. I always think about this when caring for my plants. It’s not science, but implementing care into your decision making vs thinking strictly about the final product.
 

Fevs.

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In veg I'm a brutal motherfucker! :lol: Here is my lemon skunk clone from plant in prior pic. She is tough as nalis. Look at her stems lol

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She's the elite 1 from a pack. She is done with green and violet dense nugs after 60 days of 12/12.

As you can see it's brutal for her, so she needs time to recover before the flip.
 
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