Yellowing, brown spots in veg

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BigBanks78

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Jypsy Dog said:
Lucky you.... Black Market got ya down.
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My mother died and the stuff I was growing for her I will now give to a lady that knows cancer patients being prescribed 1:1’s. This lady runs a dispensary and processes for acual true medical purposes.

I’ve been to prison for shooting people Not dealing
 
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Jypsy Dog

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BigBanks78 said:
My mother died and the stuff I was growing for her I will now give to a lady that knows cancer patients being prescribed 1:1’s. This lady runs a dispensary and processes for acual true medical purposes.

I’ve been to prison for shooting people Not dealing
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If you can have that many legally..Rock on.
 
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Jypsy Dog said:
If you can have that many legally..Rock on.
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Unlimited as far as I can tell but the legalese is cloudy to me. Acres on acres on acres here and I got 2.5. 63 plants total and 70 clones coming out. I’m doing this all by my self 90% of the time with a scratch together budget and it’s kickin my ass
 
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boybelue

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notoriouscheech said:
@boybelue

Do you think it looks like a lockout? Definitely has the yellowing signs and little bit of slower growth. But that also seems to hint towards some other deficiencies as well.
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Sorry bud been super busy, it definitely could be a lockout, hard to say definite and that's why I would flush to try and push out anything you may have added in excess or anything that may be causing the problem, then start over with a good balanced feed. First glance looks like a major iron deficiency but the leaf viens should be darker with yellowing inbetween, which yours are the opposite more like sulfer deficiency which starts at the base and works it's way out. It definitely looks like iron, manganese and maybe zinc related because all those usually run hand in hand as one triggers the other. Only thing that seems out of place with that diagnosis is you dont have the interveinal yellowing with green veins, I've always thought yellowing veins to be sulfer related. I would double ck pH and make sure your meter is calibrated correctly because I high pH could cause all these symptoms simutaniously. Being they're in different pots you might try different fixes for each, keep notes and im sure you'll find the awnser.
 
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Jypsy Dog said:
Cops will let ya know....
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Y don’t u call them u ratty individual?? I’ll give u an address if u wanna send em. There r lots of people on here growing illegally but who cares? Only u apparently!!

Hey moderators, do u need to c my COMMERCIAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA GROWERS LICENSE???

Apologies for this on ur thread bro. I chimed in cuz I have similar problems I think and just wanted to c how ur solving urs so I could do mine
 

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I’m in process of rinsing dirt and I’m going to feed 2 in did stages of def close to full strength feed and c what happens. Mine r still growing it’s just the leaves and ppm in “soilless media” is high. The ones I’ve rinsed real good have light green veg. Ones I’m working on with higher ppm run off r darker green red stems. I think I may b starving them unless I completely destroyed the dirt. I’m only posting to let the poster know Incase they r curious
 
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m99smith

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notoriouscheech said:
@stimpyc

Ive been watering about every 3-4 days. Waiting till they are dry a knuckle deep and i tend to go one day longer rather than one day shorter. In the past 3 I had very light feedings the first 2 waterings with big bloom, cal mag, and seaweed. the past two weeks have been only water due to these issues arising. Last night I fed a 1/2 feed of big bloom/calmag. As well as an Armor SI spray due to one plant having a small powder mildew spot on a stem.

Ph run off has stayed between 6.3-6.6. I have been watering right around 6.3

Fox Farms Ocean Forest with a 20% mix of perlite is my medium.

I feel like there is no way im watering too often due to letting them dry out before watering. I want them to want the water. Also watering until 10-20% runoff everytime.
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Why are you using big bloom in veg I'm pretty sure that's for flowering if it is then they arnt getting enough nitrogen and should switch nutes. What is the N.P.K ration with the big bloom
 
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boybelue said:
Sorry bud been super busy, it definitely could be a lockout, hard to say definite and that's why I would flush to try and push out anything you may have added in excess or anything that may be causing the problem, then start over with a good balanced feed. First glance looks like a major iron deficiency but the leaf viens should be darker with yellowing inbetween, which yours are the opposite more like sulfer deficiency which starts at the base and works it's way out. It definitely looks like iron, manganese and maybe zinc related because all those usually run hand in hand as one triggers the other. Only thing that seems out of place with that diagnosis is you dont have the interveinal yellowing with green veins, I've always thought yellowing veins to be sulfer related. I would double ck pH and make sure your meter is calibrated correctly because I high pH could cause all these symptoms simutaniously. Being they're in different pots you might try different fixes for each, keep notes and im sure you'll find the awnser.
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Dang I forgot to say my ph pen takes a long time to settle on a reading. LONG!!! I have drops to double check but thinking I could have screwed up the ph level cuz that pen
 
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BigBanks78

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m99smith said:
Why are you using big bloom in veg I'm pretty sure that's for flowering if it is then they arnt getting enough nitrogen and should switch nutes. What is the N.P.K ration with the big bloom
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Big bloom is the base. U feed it from seed to harvest and it’s like 0.3-0.5-.03 not the exact #’s but all less than 1.0
 
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notoriouscheech

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m99smith said:
Why are you using big bloom in veg I'm pretty sure that's for flowering if it is then they arnt getting enough nitrogen and should switch nutes. What is the N.P.K ration with the big bloom
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.01 - .3-.7

I am switching things up now. Everything on the fox farms feeding chart and that bottle says to feed that one the entire grow from week 1. Obviously im seeing that doesnt work even though i started it later. But thinking I should be doing more grow big if anything. However i think may soil is running hotter than i thought and needed to give only water for longer earlier on. I jumped the gun on nutes I think.
 
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boybelue

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Nutes in organic soils don't last long and if you've run a lot of RO water through it, its possible it could be depleted. I hear a lot of folks say ffof is pretty hot, and i only occasionally do a run with soil and I use it because it's really the only good soil I can get in my area without having it shipped in, but with my experience with it I have to start in with the bottles pretty quick. I only use the trio and the 3 solubles and when I start with the bottles I go by they're chart, no half strengths I go exactly by the chart and to my knowledge everything has been on key. I keep it simple just those 3 bottles and the 3 solubles and by the old chart. I haven't grown under LEDs with the ffof so a little cal-mag boost may be needed or run the temps a little warmer for transpiration. I know it's somewhat of a learning curve with LEDs coming from HIDs.
 
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Jaybay86

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notoriouscheech said:
@stimpyc

Ive been watering about every 3-4 days. Waiting till they are dry a knuckle deep and i tend to go one day longer rather than one day shorter. In the past 3 I had very light feedings the first 2 waterings with big bloom, cal mag, and seaweed. the past two weeks have been only water due to these issues arising. Last night I fed a 1/2 feed of big bloom/calmag. As well as an Armor SI spray due to one plant having a small powder mildew spot on a stem.

Ph run off has stayed between 6.3-6.6. I have been watering right around 6.3

Fox Farms Ocean Forest with a 20% mix of perlite is my medium.

I feel like there is no way im watering too often due to letting them dry out before watering. I want them to want the water. Also watering until 10-20% runoff everytime.
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Man fox farm happy frog soil completely destroyed a nice crop of mine... but my runoff was waayyyyy low like 5.3 and I just couldn’t get it. I’ve heard bad things about ocean forest from my local grow shop.. I pulled my plants long before they look as bad at urs. If I have a fairly significant hiccup like that. I Yank em and start again... but that’s just me.
 
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boybelue said:
Nutes in organic soils don't last long and if you've run a lot of RO water through it, its possible it could be depleted. I hear a lot of folks say ffof is pretty hot, and i only occasionally do a run with soil and I use it because it's really the only good soil I can get in my area without having it shipped in, but with my experience with it I have to start in with the bottles pretty quick. I only use the trio and the 3 solubles and when I start with the bottles I go by they're chart, no half strengths I go exactly by the chart and to my knowledge everything has been on key. I keep it simple just those 3 bottles and the 3 solubles and by the old chart. I haven't grown under LEDs with the ffof so a little cal-mag boost may be needed or run the temps a little warmer for transpiration. I know it's somewhat of a learning curve with LEDs coming from HIDs.
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U say “old schedule” I have a recent schedule and wondering if they r different. What amount do u use of each?
 
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Jaybay86 said:
Man fox farm happy frog soil completely destroyed a nice crop of mine... but my runoff was waayyyyy low like 5.3 and I just couldn’t get it. I’ve heard bad things about ocean forest from my local grow shop.. I pulled my plants long before they look as bad at urs. If I have a fairly significant hiccup like that. I Yank em and start again... but that’s just me.
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I will go back to 100% coco well 70/30 coco/perlite after this BS!! I’m looking at potassium def on some and phosphorus def on others and some unidentified as of yet. No issues in coco!!
 
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I fed them something they didn’t like awhile back that started this but have been starving them ever sense. I fed 10 worse plants over the schedules full strength and they r eating it up!!!!!
 
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