Can we talk carbon filters for a minute

Kola_Kreator

Well-Known Member
If it's the dead of winter, consider sealing up the framed room as air tight as you can and run a duct (no fan) from the framed room to the outside. Then, connect your exhaust fan to a thermostat that you place inside the tent. When it gets too hot in the tent, the fan kicks on and draws in fresh cool/cold air like an A/C until it's cool enough, then turns off. Have an oscillating fan in the tent for continuous airflow.

That way you're taking air from one place (outside), running it through your framed room/tent then exhausting via fan through the carbon filter into another place (garage) fixing the re-circulation issue and helping to control temps, killing two birds with one stone.

If you still have an odor problem after that change the filter and/or get a larger one.

If you still have an odor problem after changing the filter, get an ozone generator and put it in the garage.

Good luck.
As soon as the exhaust fan kicks off the humidity will shoot up. This will cause a lot of problems in the grow. If you have a tent full of big flowering girls the RH will hit 100 in less than an hour and if the temp is still too cool to kick the exhaust fan back in you will be in trouble.
 
If it's the dead of winter, consider sealing up the framed room as air tight as you can and run a duct (no fan) from the framed room to the outside. Then, connect your exhaust fan to a thermostat that you place inside the tent. When it gets too hot in the tent, the fan kicks on and draws in fresh cool/cold air like an A/C until it's cool enough, then turns off. Have an oscillating fan in the tent for continuous airflow.

That way you're taking air from one place (outside), running it through your framed room/tent then exhausting via fan through the carbon filter into another place (garage) fixing the re-circulation issue and helping to control temps, killing two birds with one stone.

If you still have an odor problem after that change the filter and/or get a larger one.

If you still have an odor problem after changing the filter, get an ozone generator and put it in the garage.

Good luck.
My exhaust fan is connected to my ac infinity controller and is set to ramp up when it gets to hot in the tent and stop if it gets to cold and constantly run at a lower setting so there is good air flow when temps and humidity are in a good range so that’s under control I’m pretty much doing what you have said but in reverse the exhaust is now venting outside and fresh air is drawn in from the garage the garage is well ventilated for sure so it is fresh air, the tent has a temp controlled heater in it as well which turns up when it gets down to 23 degrees Celsius temps are sitting pretty at like 26 - 27 and humidity is 55-60 the plants are super healthy and air flow is good but the yea only did the re route of the exhaust vent last night so I will see how is goes today
 
If it's the dead of winter, consider sealing up the framed room as air tight as you can and run a duct (no fan) from the framed room to the outside. Then, connect your exhaust fan to a thermostat that you place inside the tent. When it gets too hot in the tent, the fan kicks on and draws in fresh cool/cold air like an A/C until it's cool enough, then turns off. Have an oscillating fan in the tent for continuous airflow.

That way you're taking air from one place (outside), running it through your framed room/tent then exhausting via fan through the carbon filter into another place (garage) fixing the re-circulation issue and helping to control temps, killing two birds with one stone.

If you still have an odor problem after that change the filter and/or get a larger one.

If you still have an odor problem after changing the filter, get an ozone generator and put it in the garage.

Good luck.
The garage is fairly large and I’m thinking of running an ozone generator in there anyway just for safe keeping, does the size of the generator matter ? The garage is about 8m x 5m x 2.2m
 

ebgms

Active Member
As soon as the exhaust fan kicks off the humidity will shoot up. This will cause a lot of problems in the grow. If you have a tent full of big flowering girls the RH will hit 100 in less than an hour and if the temp is still too cool to kick the exhaust fan back in you will be in trouble.
High RH has never been a problem for me during the winter, even when using a setup similar to the one I recommended to OP (the ambient RH here in winter is like 25%, so often I have to ADD humidity). Also, if he's running sufficient HID lighting in there that should generate enough heat to cycle the fan on and off several times per hour. At least that's what I observed with my setup.

You do raise a valid point however. If high RH becomes a problem, the thermostat could be connected in parallel with the fan speed controller, which is always set to minimum low. That way, when the thermostat kicks in (closes) it bypasses the speed controller and the exhaust fan runs at max speed, then goes back to min-low speed when the thermostat turns off (opens) maintaining continuous airflow.
 

ebgms

Active Member
The garage is fairly large and I’m thinking of running an ozone generator in there anyway just for safe keeping, does the size of the generator matter ? The garage is about 8m x 5m x 2.2m
Yes, ozone generators will be rated for the size of the room in square feet or the amount of air they can process per time in cubic feet per minute (CFM).

Also, make sure you're taking air in from somewhere else other than where you put the ozone generator, as ozone (in sufficient concentrations) can damage plants.

Read the instructions on the generator carefully as too much ozone can damage you (and pets) as well.
 

Kola_Kreator

Well-Known Member
@Novicegardner let's fix the original issue before you worry about dropping more cash on an ozone generator. If you the walls are being sucked in on the tent and all of the exhausted air is going through the filter you def should not be smelling anything during veg. It sounds like the root cause is a crap filter if you don't swap it out and you happen to have a loud strain the whole neighbourhood is going to smell your grow come mid flower.

Contact wherever you bought that filter and ask for a refund and go buy a trusted brand.

A good filter makes a huge difference. A few months back I started noticing that my grow was getting a little stinky in the house. The filter I was running was a good one but at the end of its lifespan. Swapped it out for a brand new mountain air and my stealth is back on point.
 
@Novicegardner let's fix the original issue before you worry about dropping more cash on an ozone generator. If you the walls are being sucked in on the tent and all of the exhausted air is going through the filter you def should not be smelling anything during veg. It sounds like the root cause is a crap filter if you don't swap it out and you happen to have a loud strain the whole neighbourhood is going to smell your grow come mid flower.

Contact wherever you bought that filter and ask for a refund and go buy a trusted brand.

A good filter makes a huge difference. A few months back I started noticing that my grow was getting a little stinky in the house. The filter I was running was a good one but at the end of its lifespan. Swapped it out for a brand new mountain air and my stealth is back on point.
Alright I will change my filter as well
 
Make sure you have a good sealed connection from the filter to the fan. If you have leaks that are bypassing the filter it'll cause the same problem.
Yea they do already have a good connecting no leaks I do think maybe the quality of the filter and the recirculating issue was causing most the issues, I’m deffs struggling for good negative pressure I think I have to much open ( two mesh vents either side of the tent down the bottom) the tent is good quality but a good tight seal around the front zipper doors is pretty bad top and bottom joins where the horizontal and verticals Center zipper meet don’t close together completely so I might close up the vents all together and just let the tent leak through the shitty zipper design see if that helps for the negative pressure but then again at the same time I would be worried that air flow into the tent would become to little
 
Now that I
Make sure you have a good sealed connection from the filter to the fan. If you have leaks that are bypassing the filter it'll cause the same problem.
Now that I recall I don’t think the tent is leaking at all and the negative pressure is actually pretty okay because when I open the door to the room that’s in the garage there is literally no smell just smells like the timber I used to build the room it is only in the garage that it is venting into has the smell, so filter is probably a dud, I bought the set up as a package so I doubt they would refund just the filter I can ask if they would swap it but I’m probably better off replacing it and keep the shit one as a back up in case I need it somewhere else
 

amneziaHaze

Well-Known Member
Have a ac infinity 150mm inline exhaust fan and an imperial carbon filter size is about 600mm long and 250mm round. My fan is set to run always at a lower speed of 2 any higher and I have humidity issues and temp problems as it’s full swing winter here at the moment, anyway my tent is in my garage in a framed room in the corner it is insulated and foamed the only place air is getting in is under the door and the exhaust fan vents into the garage out of the room, when I lift my garage door up you can most definitely smell the plants and they are only in veg the smells not faint nor strong it’s just there. Seems to me the filter is not working very well at all and again the plants are only in veg and I’m a week away from flip, any tips tricks welcome ?
If the sides of the tent get sucked in you are good for smell.humidity on the other hand will depend on the speed of the fan.
 
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