Yields when starting seed outside

[gilbsy123]

One thing to consider is that your seedlings are gonna be delicate and vulnerable outside, so plan on losing some to nature. Plant more than you think you'd need. Hell, even in my veggie garden I prefer to transplant when I can to ensure that they make it, think hard rains, rodents, birds, love nice little seeds and seedlings and can destroy a patch in a night.

Not enough rain where I'm at. There is no shortage of bugs, gophers and birds though. I had tons of trouble in the veggie garden with insect damage but since adding my own vermicompost I haven't had nearly as much trouble.

Also, neem seed meal has helped me get rid of some giant ants. At least for now. It has been nice and warm out and they are nowhere to be found. I hope it keeps working!

 

[ruby fruit]

If ur not going guerrilla style and you could do 60 or 100 gallon pots im sure you could average 2-5 lb a plant if all goes well and the strain is proven

 

[Azoned]

I live due east of ya about 400 miles...
you can plant about any time now. Your plants will sex early due to the short/er days. If you want maximum veg time, a week or two is about optimum.
with the warm weather, I have volunteers coming up. So, the soil temps id good, insect count is down....birds and rodents are about all that is left....and I have cats

...and if you direct seed, expect high infant mortality.. A little cage of window screen will keep most problems out. but still expect losses

 

[Azoned]

agreed...big yield is very strain dependent

 

[gilbsy123]

If ur not going guerrilla style and you could do 60 or 100 gallon pots im sure you could average 2-5 lb a plant if all goes well and the strain is proven

I'm using 2, 7 and 15 gallon pots. Semi guerrilla? I need to be mobile in case of snoopy visitors.

I live due east of ya about 400 miles...
you can plant about any time now. Your plants will sex early due to the short/er days. If you want maximum veg time, a week or two is about optimum.
with the warm weather, I have volunteers coming up. So, the soil temps id good, insect count is down....birds and rodents are about all that is left....and I have cats

...and if you direct seed, expect high infant mortality.. A little cage of window screen will keep most problems out. but still expect losses

I'm Vegging inside with some 65 watt (I think, maybe only 23 watt can't remember) CFLs. They don't have much light or room to get very big.

I think that a seed outdoor will get about as big as my vegged plants, for less money, if I start them at the right time. I am doing a plant per week right now and plan on keeping a few moms of known females and put them out to keep myself supplied.

 

[ruby fruit]

I have a plant from seed in a 15 gallon...started in a small pot till it got 4 nodes high then transplanted..no idea what the yield will be but im.guessing if you had a 15 gallon in a full.sun spot from seed you could still potentially get a lb

 

[gilbsy123]

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I have a plant from seed in a 15 gallon...started in a small pot till it got 4 nodes high then transplanted..no idea what the yield will be but im.guessing if you had a 15 gallon in a full.sun spot from seed you could still potentially get a lb

We shall see! I'll put one in around the mid- end of March, mid April and mid May.

 

[Surfingbird831]

If you start anything right now you will have to add supplemental light and by the time May comes around it will probably be big and then it will veg out side without supplemental light till around July and flower till November you will probably get at least two lbs each if you do it right

 

[mwooten102]

No... You wont be able to just sew a seed and get a plant like that.. You have to have a extra long veg time.. And you have to do alot of lst to shape it

I got 7-8 pound off of a seed started outdoors last year.

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[mikeykrinshaw12]

I got 7-8 pound off of a seed started outdoors last year.

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I planted some seeds around the middle of June and got between a couple zips and a q off each.

Seriously- I wish there was a sticky that new members had to read before posting in here- that the general question of yield is..... ridiculous to say the least. A simple guide to understanding what factors contribute to yield (like when planted, amount of soil, sunlight, water, strain type, location, etc), and proposing the Obvious Answer-

If you wish to understand or have some reasonable guess as to yield, you must first consider your circumstances and all your independent contributing variables (baby on the way and trying to do a guerrilla grow probably means less yield, for example.... or small backyard is less space could mean less yield, or short growing season, or limited water etc.) . Once you understand how those things come together to formulate your own grow cycle and you begin to have an understanding of the effects of each variable, along with your own personal choices (type of soil, in boxes or smartpots, strait in the ground with no gopher protection, fenced or non fenced etc) which will determine your success at accommodating each variable that contributes to the grow (watering more in hot dry climates, less in warm humid climates.... identifying soil type when planting in the ground and choosing appropriate amendments etc). And in the end- any number of simple things could devastate your results (bugs, mold, storms, gophers, rippers), or enhance them (mineral/nutrient pockets in soil, cracks in rock layer below ground providing clean air and good drainage for plants put in ground above rock layer a few feet maybe in raised beds maybe not, lots of sunny weather during entire grow providing ample light for development especially if plants are at good angles to movement of sun).

Because seriously- How many thousands of threads are the same as this one- Could give the answer in a sticky that would greatly reduce these threads, and give appropriate info at the same time that is useful in helping readers understand what they are looking at..... just a thought- same posts over and over again over the years, eh?

 

[mikeykrinshaw12]

If you start anything right now you will have to add supplemental light and by the time May comes around it will probably be big and then it will veg out side without supplemental light till around July and flower till November you will probably get at least two lbs each if you do it right

Had some volunteers pop up a couple years back in end of January- 2300 ft eleveation, 38.5 degrees lattitude, avg daily temps were 55-60/25-40, in a south facing mountain crevasse- no supplemental lighting, no cover or care of any kind until March/April- plants never tried to flower until regular flowering season time- just turned into 10 lb plants. Hardened acclimatized stable strains.

See post #30.

 

[Surfingbird831]

Had some volunteers pop up a couple years back in end of January- 2300 ft eleveation, 38.5 degrees lattitude, avg daily temps were 55-60/25-40, in a south facing mountain crevasse- no supplemental lighting, no cover or care of any kind until March/April- plants never tried to flower until regular flowering season time- just turned into 10 lb plants. Hardened acclimatized stable strains.

See post #30.

Wow that's pretty awesome but if you are counting on your plants keeping veg from January the odd are stacked against you. Sounds like you just had the perfect storm brewing for those little girls to become monsters.

 

[gilbsy123]

Had some volunteers pop up a couple years back in end of January- 2300 ft eleveation, 38.5 degrees lattitude, avg daily temps were 55-60/25-40, in a south facing mountain crevasse- no supplemental lighting, no cover or care of any kind until March/April- plants never tried to flower until regular flowering season time- just turned into 10 lb plants. Hardened acclimatized stable strains.

See post #30.

This is the kind of info I was looking for when starting this thread. I assume you're in the northern hemisphere so that means the days are fairly short in January, right?

This sort of result turns what I "know" about cannabis upside down! So, putting seed out takes out the artificial vegging time and lets the genetics take over and nature does what it already really "knows" what to do.

Your post, #30, was spot on too. Thanks for sharing your experiences over and over for people like me who are barely waking up to nature's power! A sticky would be nice.

 

[theexpress]

I get 2 pounds out of a 15 gallon bucket putting a 12" clone out in the end of may . I had one do 3 but it was a 35 gal pot. You guys are working to hard . LOL.

clones yield better then seeds cuz they veg much faster still 2 lbs in 15 gallons is damn good. sounds like a heavy yielding strsin cuz your not gonna get that off bubba or og... outdoorsplants usually veg till mid/ late aug in my neck of the woods.

 

[mr sunshine]

Obviously I'm new to outdoor. 10lbs. was just a number to make a point. You and lots of others have answered my question satisfactorily.

Long veg is necessary to produce huge poundage with a single "tree". Sow many seeds and may be able to match the poundage without a long veg is what I've gathered from y'all. Thanks!

Just like indoor. ..longer vegg bigger trees....

 

[TWS]

clones yield better then seeds cuz they veg much faster still 2 lbs in 15 gallons is damn good. sounds like a heavy yielding strsin cuz your not gonna get that off bubba or og... outdoorsplants usually veg till mid/ late aug in my neck of the woods.

no.... Seeds or clones can yield the same but seeds tend to be more vigorous and yield better. autos don't yield either but I don't grow them either. lol

 

[theexpress]

no.... Seeds or clones can yield the same but seeds tend to be more vigorous and yield better. autos don't yield either but I don't grow them either. lol

not in my 15 years of experiance.. in my experiance seedlings grow slow as shit vertically and bushyness the first 3/4 weeks while a clone will blow the fuck up

 

[mwooten102]

Lol seeds way outgrow clones.

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[theexpress]

Lol seeds way outgrow clones.

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to each there own... imho clones veg faster then seeds always.. and i even think they flower slightly quicker.. clone is at an adbantage.from day one. it has a bunch more leaves andnodes and a.much larger more complex rootball. that and most clones are atleast 6" in lenght so there also larger to begin with. just my humble opinion

 

[TWS]

to each there own... imho clones veg faster then seeds always.. and i even think they flower slightly quicker.. clone is at an adbantage.from day one. it has a bunch more leaves andnodes and a.much larger more complex rootball. that and most clones are atleast 6" in lenght so there also larger to begin with. just my humble opinion

I don't think you'll find one grower in here that is worth their salt to agree with this, but hey, to each his own. lol

I can drop a seed and plug a clone at the same time. Guess who's head is above soil first ? the seed in 7 or less days.