Donald Trump Leading The Republicans

Fogdog

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You're more charitable than I.

He's the kind of monster that starts world wars, thinking there's something to 'win'.
The same kind of monster that got us into being an occupying force in Iraq. Oh that went well, didn't it? If you recall, one former GOP presidential candidate supported a push for us to move on to Iran immediately after we occupied Iraq. Remember when McCain sang 'Bomb Bomb Iran'?

That said, Obama's support for drone strikes is driving me nuts. National defense is one thing, bombings and assassinations in the name of national defense is quite a different thing altogether.
 

doublejj

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The same kind of monster that got us into being an occupying force in Iraq. Oh that went well, didn't it? If you recall, one former GOP presidential candidate supported a push for us to move on to Iran immediately after we occupied Iraq. Remember when McCain sang 'Bomb Bomb Iran'?

That said, Obama's support for drone strikes is driving me nuts. National defense is one thing, bombings and assassinations in the name of national defense is quite a different thing altogether.
if drones are an alternative to boots on the ground....I'll take it
 

nitro harley

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loophole. I don't really care that you gamed the system but you insult when you claim to be up and up about this. Did your wife earn a competitive wage as an accountant? Was she a CPA? What qualified her to be paid as a professional accountant? I don't think so. She just did some book keeping for you and you used that as an excuse to park half your income as wages. Legal loophole.
I don't understand why you and your buddies think women are not equal to men? What the fuck is up with that? House wives work as hard or harder than men in my opinion. They raise kids , wash and clean, do book work and pay bills , cook their families fine dinners, spread their legs when you want them to. And that alone is worth sharing a pay check with in my opinion.

You and your buddies need to give women more credit than you do. Just because you can't or won't share your income to invest in your retirement with your wife is up to you. Loop holes and gaming the system is your opinion and when my wife pays tax's all those thoughts of yours kinda don't make sense anymore.
 
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Darth Vapour

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The same kind of monster that got us into being an occupying force in Iraq. Oh that went well, didn't it? If you recall, one former GOP presidential candidate supported a push for us to move on to Iran immediately after we occupied Iraq. Remember when McCain sang 'Bomb Bomb Iran'?

That said, Obama's support for drone strikes is driving me nuts. National defense is one thing, bombings and assassinations in the name of national defense is quite a different thing altogether.
Yeah and i think many Americans are brained washed into believing they will win any war they get into when they lose war like last one they still come back thinking they won lol
let alone struggled in Iraq now thinking they can invade Iran and it will be a cake walk
sad truth is Iran would put up a stupid fight and win most of them USA is fairly strong in the air or they try to make people believe that when you think about it the ole mighty stealth fighter jet shot down in Kosovo one of the poorest country's on the planet kinda wakes people up .. to many people think USA is unstoppable and can go into another country like the own it
I so wanted USA to get into it with Iran this would of shown the world how weak USA really is going up against iran with allies Russia and china they would not sit on the side lines on this one most of the american ship fleet would of been sunk
 

Budget Buds

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Trigger happy dildo????? Lol.

I don't care for Hilary but I wouldn't call her trigger happy.
Nope , me neither I would call her the dildo who wants to take your triggers from you just like the monkey we got in office right now. I'm not a fan of donald trump but IMO he would be the best canidate we have right now . I'm sick of democrats with there deleted emails and false flag ops against our 2nd amendment . Oh but we did get the obama phone and more national debt in 7 years then we have had in the entire history of our country
 

UncleReemis

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So building a war machine to go murder millions based on your own outside judgement of justice is your political stance?

Yeah. You should stay in your growroom.

Ever heard of 'live and let live'?
How is it an outside judgment of justice? I never once implied I support slaughtering millions of people and neither did the context of my argument. I generally stated that I don't support sitting back and letting cruel and evil shit happen to many innocent people, NO MATTER THEIR GEOGRAPHICAL ORIGIN. Just look at the disrespect you and fog show in your replies. You are so gung-ho ready to extend my argument to absurd proportions and then criticize the result as if it were my original argument. You think you'd know what to do about world problems but you can't even be mature enough to not degrade people you've never even met. This is the part where you revert back to my original post to reemphasize how absurd your extension of my own argument is because you can't find a way to legitimately justify your lack of kindness towards a person with a different stance of your own. But of course, everybody must think as you do or face the consequence of being politically incorrect. That's the only explanation, seeing how this is the first semi-personal interaction I've had with you. Oh, and this is the part where youre thinking back to how ridiculous my argument *seemed* to you. I challenge you to reply in a more mature and respectful manner, if you're capable.
 

Darth Vapour

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Budget you cannot blame Obama for the debt actually it started long before that bush era and before that no matter who goes into office there going to be a sock puppet

you wanna see some BS Hillary's back peddlng there embarrassed meants lol condemning wiki leaks for posting government corruption

 

ttystikk

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if drones are an alternative to boots on the ground....I'll take it
But it isn't. No bombing campaign alone has ever achieved its aims.

But I'll see your boots on the ground, and raise you; ever heard of the cockroaches from the end of the world? They're coming...
 

Fogdog

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I don't understand why you and your buddies think women are not equal to men? What the fuck is up with that? House wives work as hard or harder than men in my opinion. They raise kids , wash and clean, do book work and pay bills , cook their families fine dinners, spared their legs when you want them to. And that alone is worth sharing a pay check with in my opinion.

You and your buddies need to give women more credit than you do. Just because you can't or won't share your income to invest in your retirement with your wife is up to you. Loop holes and gaming the system is your opinion and when my wife pays tax's all those thoughts of yours kinda don't make sense anymore.
As your wife that money was hers already. You ginned up an excuse to put her on your payroll so that she could collect social security and paid her money that was already hers. Within a very short time, your investment in this scheme will pay more than you put into it. I told you before, its OK. You found a loophole and exploited it. Just STFU about others that are less fortunate than you and actually need help with food stamps or other assistance.
 

ttystikk

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How is it an outside judgment of justice? I never once implied I support slaughtering millions of people and neither did the context of my argument. I generally stated that I don't support sitting back and letting cruel and evil shit happen to many innocent people, NO MATTER THEIR GEOGRAPHICAL ORIGIN. Just look at the disrespect you and fog show in your replies. You are so gung-ho ready to extend my argument to absurd proportions and then criticize the result as if it were my original argument. You think you'd know what to do about world problems but you can't even be mature enough to not degrade people you've never even met. This is the part where you revert back to my original post to reemphasize how absurd your extension of my own argument is because you can't find a way to legitimately justify your lack of kindness towards a person with a different stance of your own. But of course, everybody must think as you do or face the consequence of being politically incorrect. That's the only explanation, seeing how this is the first semi-personal interaction I've had with you. Oh, and this is the part where youre thinking back to how ridiculous my argument *seemed* to you. I challenge you to reply in a more mature and respectful manner, if you're capable.
You don't think all those people are ready to kill themselves to attack Americans are doing it for kicks and grins, do you? They didn't just magically appear from madrassas (Islamic religious schools) angry and ready to die?

No, it's because Americans from government to corporate have been abusing people around the world with near complete impunity for the last half century, and it's coming back to bite us. From CIA destabilization ops to American arms sales to corporate shenanigans to abuses under the auspices of the World Bank... and the list is endless and bloody... I mean, WTF do you think 'world cop' is making the rest of the world safe FOR, if not for American interests to exploit it?

Tl:dr? Maybe if we didn't start so many wars, we wouldn't have quite so many enemies out there willing to finish them.
 

Darth Vapour

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Fog i am sorry but people make there own bed Everyone is given a equal op to make it in life tho some choose to quit school , or just become lazy is not a excuse
They cannot find a job or what ever i say screw them all they are is a fucking boat anchor to the economy dragging it down in further ..
These fucking have nots are reproducing more then the middle and upper bracket income now that is a problem If a person needs help with food stamps or other services like looking for a job ..
If there is non in your area then fucking move to area where there is jobs
 

doublejj

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Fog i am sorry but people make there own bed Everyone is given a equal op to make it in life tho some choose to quit school , or just become lazy is not a excuse
They cannot find a job or what ever i say screw them all they are is a fucking boat anchor to the economy dragging it down in further ..
These fucking have nots are reproducing more then the middle and upper bracket income now that is a problem If a person needs help with food stamps or other services like looking for a job ..
If there is non in your area then fucking move to area where there is jobs
You should read the pay disparity thread....it explains a lot
 

Darth Vapour

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You don't think all those people are ready to kill themselves to attack Americans are doing it for kicks and grins, do you? They didn't just magically appear from madrassas (Islamic religious schools) angry and ready to die?

No, it's because Americans from government to corporate have been abusing people around the world with near complete impunity for the last half century, and it's coming back to bite us. From CIA destabilization ops to American arms sales to corporate shenanigans to abuses under the auspices of the World Bank... and the list is endless and bloody... I mean, WTF do you think 'world cop' is making the rest of the world safe FOR, if not for American interests to exploit it?

Tl:dr? Maybe if we didn't start so many wars, we wouldn't have quite so many enemies out there willing to finish them.
Great post half of the shit going on is from Isis and other militant groups are USA MADE trained by the USA armed by the USA and what has happened it back fired ..
USA has a shit load of enemies look at kadaffi for instance he was actually a good man but everyone thinks he is evil and once a US allie and how did his death happen ???
simple all about oil he gave to his country free housing , free schooling university lots
but his plan was to make a currency in gold this meant USA notes were fuckin useless so instead of buying the oil in usa notes usa would of had to buy oil in gold currency
Well shit you know and i know USA could not do this you know instead of paying at that time 90 bucks a barrel it would of cost USA 180 bucks a barrel wow huh
So again plans were set back up the gorillas with arms support them and kill kadafi

And you wonder why USA has so many enemies
 

Fogdog

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if drones are an alternative to boots on the ground....I'll take it
Bombing a population has never resulted in the surrender of a foe. Ironically, bombing unifies a population against the remote aggressor and makes it a propaganda tool for the very force you intend to defeat.

I ask what is the objective? I know that Bin Laden wasn't killed in a drone strike but did his death stop the terrorists? Have almost eight years of drone strikes authorized by Obama stopped it? The rain of drone strikes on targets in the middle east has outraged the population and given them reason to hate the US. The situation is worse now than it was eight years ago. If the objective was to enact justice and carry out capital punishment then maybe we can say that its working but there are a lot of civilian casualties. What kind of justice is that? If the objective is to defeat terrorists, it looks more like pouring gasoline on the fire rather than water.

This is an example: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-glyn-williams/the-slaughter-of-a-weddin_b_4595274.html

" the question that needs to be asked is: Was the killing of one mid-level operative and a handful of other low ranking terrorists worth the "collateral damage" in lives (and to American strategic interests in Yemen and the world) that would surely ensue from the potential death of civilian bystanders? And were those "9 to twelve" men killed in the convoy really terrorists as the U.S. official claimed?"

The internet is drenched with reports, some true, some false about these drone strikes. These strikes give terrorists a powerful propaganda weapon and for what? A handful of dead enemies another handful of dead bystanders and millions of enraged people. There is no such thing as a limited war.

Like I said, Obama's support for this drives me nuts. Otherwise, I think he was/is a good president. I hope the next Democrat we put in that office turns this program off. I'm downright certain a GOP president will expand it. Bombs are good for business.
 
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