Diplomacy worked, just ask Jason Rezaian (former American hostage held by Iran.

[pnwmystery]

They could have assisted them and in good will sent them on their way. Instead the Iranians used this "opportunity" to do a propaganda video, to humiliate. Obama and Kerry sucked their brown camel dicks.....as usual.

You're not only an enabler making up excuses for bad behavior, you're too stupid not to see the political dynamics at play.

Lol, you're too stupid to not see the political dynamics at work. The video was not released by the Iranian government, but by the Revolutionary Guard which operates independently from the Iranian government. If you actually "knew" what you were talking about, being such an expert on geopolitics and the political interactions between Iran and the US, you'd know that the IRGC is a separate military entity from the Iranian Military, does not answer to the government but answers directly to the Supreme Council, which also operates independently and oversees the normal Iranian government. Even if it was the regular Iranian Army, they also act somewhat independently.

You'd also know the long history of tension and suspicion between Iran and the US, like maybe for example Operation Praying Mantis and Operation Nimble Archer, or maybe even the downing of Iran Air Flight 655. Or you'd also know that the IRGC is still under sanctions from the US, and that during the Bush Administration we violated the territorial integrity of Iran multiple times, and had UAVs shot down over Iran. Then there was also US support of the Party of Free Life of Kurdistan up until 2009 when we listed them as a terrorist organization, which Iran had considered them from 2004. So considering the history of supporting Irans enemies internally and externally, espionage, and violations of territorial sovereignty, it's actually a much better outcome. Iran could have, if they wanted to, held the sailors for much, much longer.

Think before you speak. When was I making up excuses? The boat did drift into Iranian water. We do not have military cooperation nor any sort of treaties. If this happened to the US - say an Iranian boat drifted into the waters that the US Navy controls for the 5th Fleet in Bahrain, do you think we'd repair their boat and send them on their way? Or hold them and question them on why they were coming so close to where the 5th Fleet is based? Or are you suddenly soft on Iran.

 

[Harrekin]

They could have assisted them and in good will sent them on their way. Instead the Iranians used this opportunity to do a propaganda video, to humiliate. Obama and Kerry sucked their brown camel dicks.....as usual.

You're not only an enabler making up excuses for disgusting diplomatic behavior, you and your RIU libtard comrades are too stupid not to see the one sided political dynamics at play.

Extremely classy I must say, does it hurt knowing everyone has a bigger penis than you, even women?

 

[Uncle Ben]

Think before you speak. When was I making up excuses?

 

[Blunted 4 lyfe]

I wonder how much money the USA
made off of the $150 billion Iranian money since 79'.

WE'RE giving them back THEIR money, but you wont know that by the way the pukes talk about it, you would think WE are giving Iran $150 billion of OUR money, not so.

B4L

 

[Rob Roy]

Were your children free to do whatever they damn well pleased to anyone anywhere ? Don`t confuse a Master with a Parent.

No, I tried hard to teach my kids personal responsibility. They are adults now and don't need me or any other entity running their lives though.

I don't confuse the nanny state for what it is, it is neither my parent or my master. Being able to vote is not evidence of freedom, it is evidence that people when presented a false dichotomy sometimes think they are exercising a choice. I reject that, since the choice to NOT be affected isn't present....hence...a form of slavery IS present...slave.

 

[Rob Roy]

I wonder how much money the USA
made off of the $150 billion Iranian money since 79'.

WE'RE giving them back THEIR money, but you wont know that by the way the pukes talk about it, you would think WE are giving Iran $150 billion of OUR money, not so.

B4L

What is money and where does it originate from might be good questions to ask in this situation.

 

[OddBall1st]

No, I tried hard to teach my kids personal responsibility. They are adults now and don't need me or any other entity running their lives though.

I don't confuse the nanny state for what it is, it is neither my parent or my master. Being able to vote is not evidence of freedom, it is evidence that people when presented a false dichotomy sometimes think they are exercising a choice. I reject that, since the choice to NOT be affected isn't present....hence...a form of slavery IS present...slave.

Do they have a drivers license or are they free to drive and hit shit at will ?

 

[Rob Roy]

Do they have a drivers license or are they free to drive and hit shit at will ?

How does a drivers license prevent accidents ?

 

[OddBall1st]

How does a drivers license prevent accidents ?

It doen`t, especially for newbee`s in the snow. It allows you to drive legally and get insurance and cover damages beyond your ability for whatever you crash into. If you crash and have no license, you are fucked, so is the person or place you hit.

I suppose you think that Government law is also not fair.

 

[Rob Roy]

It doen`t, especially for newbee`s in the snow. It allows you to drive legally and get insurance and cover damages beyond your ability for whatever you crash into. If you crash and have no license, you are fucked, so is the person or place you hit.

I suppose you think that Government law is also not fair.

Sometimes statutory government laws coincide with reasonable things, but that's not an endorsement on my part. For instance most governments even the worst of the worst outlaw murder, theft and fraud, for "normal people". Of course those actions are perfectly okay when they do them though.


Yes, however if SOMEBODY else crashes into you and they are licensed and you are not, you're also fucked.....Question arbitrary authority.

 

[OddBall1st]

Sometimes statutory government laws coincide with reasonable things, but that's not an endorsement on my part. For instance most governments even the worst of the worst outlaw murder, theft and fraud, for "normal people". Of course those actions are perfectly okay when they do them though.


Yes, however if SOMEBODY else crashes into you and they are licensed and you are not, you're also fucked.....Question arbitrary authority.

One of these days you`ll discover why you are innocent until proven guilty.

 

[since1991]

Not a big fan of obama....but how he has been dealing with iran and cuba has gotten results...peacefully too. Anyone else got any better ideas? Oh wait....McCain and quite a few others in Washington would of rather go to war with iran. If he would of gotten elected....thats exactly where we would be rite now.

 

[OddBall1st]

Not a big fan of obama....but how he has been dealing with iran and cuba has gotten results...peacefully too. Anyone else got any better ideas? Oh wait....McCain and quite a few others in Washington would of rather go to war with iran. If he would of gotten elected....thats exactly where we would be rite now.

What Obama did was reduce the sentence, that`s all and could have been done by previous Presidents should they feel time served. There`s no violence from the guilty parties when their sentences are being reduced, that would defeat the porpoise.

Maybe you should get Obama another piece prize........I`d be more than happy to polish and shine it up so it`s the brightest thing in the White House, turn that sun bitch sideways and stick it strait up his candy ass........

 

[Padawanbater2]

What Obama did was reduce the sentence, that`s all and could have been done by previous Presidents should they feel time served. There`s no violence from the guilty parties when their sentences are being reduced, that would defeat the porpoise.

Maybe you should get Obama another piece prize........I`d be more than happy to polish and shine it up so it`s the brightest thing in the White House, turn that sun bitch sideways and stick it strait up his candy ass........

 

[OddBall1st]

Soitenly.....

 

[Blunted 4 lyfe]

What Obama did was reduce the sentence, that`s all and could have been done by previous Presidents should they feel time served. There`s no violence from the guilty parties when their sentences are being reduced, that would defeat the porpoise.

Maybe you should get Obama another piece prize........I`d be more than happy to polish and shine it up so it`s the brightest thing in the White House, turn that sun bitch sideways and stick it strait up his candy ass........

Stop your belly aching you know your're a closet Obama supporter, what the hell you talking about are you here with us on earth? Or are you wandering off to a paralel universe, stop it with that insane approach of any President could've done it, the pukes hate Obama, hate Iran so how in hell could either Bush pull this off, shit if Reagan couldn't do it you think papa Bush or his idiot Son could? Dream on.

Maybe he should get another Peace prize bringing Cuba back in the fold and now Iran & USA have a dialogue going...that would be too big a pill for the pukes to swallow.


All this Obama success is killing the Obama haters, love it.


B4L

 

[OddBall1st]

Stop your belly aching you know your're a closet Obama supporter, what the hell you talking about are you here with us on earth? Or are you wandering off to a paralel universe, stop it with that insane approach of any President could've done it, the pukes hate Obama, hate Iran so how in hell could either Bush pull this off, shit if Reagan couldn't do it you think papa Bush or his idiot Son could? Dream on.

Maybe he should get another Peace prize bringing Cuba back in the fold and now Iran & USA have a dialogue going...that would be too big a pill for the pukes to swallow.


All this Obama success is killing the Obama haters, love it.


B4L

Believe what you want, Obama reduced the sentence in Cuba and caved on the Iran threat. Obama implemented strict sanctions on the missile testing after all the opposition to his first move, the day after lifting sanctions. The pressure caught up to him.

 

[since1991]

Call it seperate issus if you want but do you think
those people held in Iran would of been released if the recent nuke power agreements would have never of taken place?

 

[Corso312]

I wonder how much money the USA
made off of the $150 billion Iranian money since 79'.

WE'RE giving them back THEIR money, but you wont know that by the way the pukes talk about it, you would think WE are giving Iran $150 billion of OUR money, not so.

B4L

It is crazy how fools repeat this bullshit, we seized THEIR cash and returned it interest free after a few decades.

 

[heckler73]

It is crazy how fools repeat this bullshit, we seized THEIR cash and returned it interest free after a few decades.