Diplomacy worked, just ask Jason Rezaian (former American hostage held by Iran.

OddBall1st

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LegalizeNature420 said:
Are you just throwing stuff at the wall in the hope that something will stick? Do you know when the Saudis formed their alliance with America/allies? In 1938, a whole year before WW2 even started.
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So why didn`t the Saudi`s fight of the Third Reich by themselves ? They saw trouble coming, sided with the badasses and so I can`t blame them for that, but could they go it alone ? America started with wooden guns and a female workforce. The Saudi`s got to chose a side.

The Middle East would be lock stepping today if not for America. India and china would be speaking Japanese.
 
LegalizeNature420

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OddBall1st said:
So why didn`t the Saudi`s fight of the Third Reich by themselves ? They saw trouble coming, sided with the badasses and so I can`t blame them for that, but could they go it alone ? America started with wooden guns and a female workforce. The Saudi`s got to chose a side.

The Middle East would be lock stepping today if not for America. India and china would be speaking Japanese.
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Sided with the badasses? This is how you understand history? In case you don't know, it was Nazi Germany who was the badass around that period. For a while, they looked unstoppable. In comparison, America was neutral and was vowing to stay out of war. Only the shock of Pearl Harbor changed that.
 
OddBall1st

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LegalizeNature420 said:
Sided with the badasses? This is how you understand history? In case you don't know, it was Nazi Germany who was the badass around that period. For a while, they looked unstoppable. In comparison, America was neutral and was vowing to stay out of war. Only the shock of Pearl Harbor changed that.
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Nazi Germany lost, to the better Amry, Navy, and Air Forces. Yes America opted to stay out of a war they could not afford. It changed after Pear Harbor because Europe lost, The Middle East, lost, China was losing, and The only hope was a Russian advance during American training. America supplied the war til they could get into it. Russia came from the North and West, American and British advanced from the East and South. America broke away from that part of the war when Europe was no longer defenseless and took on the most power Navy this planet ever saw in Japan. They won that too, with no help from the Saudi`s or Palestinians.

I tried to find a Palestinian Army tank, Navy ship or Air Force plane from the 40`s, can you help me with that ?
 
LegalizeNature420

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OddBall1st said:
You can`t hide shame from oneself.
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OddBall1st said:
Nazi Germany lost, to the better Amry, Navy, and Air Forces. Yes America opted to stay out of a war they could not afford. It changed after Pear Harbor because Europe lost, The Middle East, lost, China was losing, and The only hope was a Russian advance during American training. America supplied the war til they could get into it. Russia came from the North and West, American and British advanced from the East and South. America broke away from that part of the war when Europe was no longer defenseless and took on the most power Navy this planet ever saw in Japan. They won that too, with no help from the Saudi`s or Palestinians.

I tried to find a Palestinian Army tank, Navy ship or Air Force plane from the 40`s, can you help me with that ?
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You're making me laugh.

1. Germany killed more of every enemy army they faced than that army killed of them, ie they killed more American soldiers than American soldiers killed them, killed more British soldiers than British soldiers killed them, etc.. Nazi Germany didn't lose because of quality, they lost because of quantity; they drowned in Russian blood.

2. The Americans advanced from the WEST, the Soviets from the EAST. This is basic stuff yet somehow I'm not surprised you don't know it.

3. The Arabs were under colonial rule. They fought the Ottoman Turks in WW1 on the side of the Allies. These Allies promised their independence but lied to them (this story is told in Lawrence of Arabia). Despite this, hundreds of thousands of Arabs fought once again with the Allies in WW2. And as I've mentioned, Zionist Jews during this period were attempting the opposite: Offering their manpower to Nazi Germany.

You're too easy.
 
OddBall1st

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LegalizeNature420 said:
You're making me laugh.

1. Germany killed more of every enemy army they faced than that army killed of them, ie they killed more American soldiers than American soldiers killed them, killed more British soldiers than British soldiers killed them, etc.. Nazi Germany didn't lose because of quality, they lost because of quantity; they drowned in Russian blood.

2. The Americans advanced from the WEST, the Soviets from the EAST. This is basic stuff yet somehow I'm not surprised you don't know it.

3. The Arabs were under colonial rule. They fought the Ottoman Turks in WW1 on the side of the Allies. These Allies promised their independence but lied to them (this story is told in Lawrence of Arabia). Despite this, hundreds of thousands of Arabs fought once again with the Allies in WW2. And as I've mentioned, Zionist Jews during this period were attempting the opposite: Offering their manpower to Nazi Germany.

You're too easy.
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As in Football, a loss is a loss no matter how it happened.
Yes I did get those direction backwards, not the first time and prolly not the last time.
The Arabs of WWII could not fight with the alliance until it was formed.

You can try until your hearts content, Both the Third Reich and Imperial Japanese were winning the war until America joined in.

There is no otherwise. Europe was lost, the Middle East surrendered and the Imperial Japanese were working their way to the Panama canal. Germany held the Med. Sea side of Suez canal. Any third grader can do the math if the Germans had taken the Yemen strait and the Imperial Japanese had taken one side of the Panama canal.

In no way do I discredit any efforts or advances made by small groups against the Nazi Germans or Imperial Japanese,...they did what they could with what they had. It was not going to be enough, no if, and`s or but`s about it.

Today, the American Government is corrupt, and puts itself above the People and laws of our land,....that`s gonna change soon. American people are tired of being frowned apon by the actions of a greedy, corrupt, and power hungry Government we are supposed to trust. Look at the People running for the Presidency today, only one of those people has nothing to do with they way our Government is today or the situations America faces today, and none of the other Candidates like him for that.
 
Harrekin

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OddBall1st said:
As in Football, a loss is a loss no matter how it happened.
Yes I did get those direction backwards, not the first time and prolly not the last time.
The Arabs of WWII could not fight with the alliance until it was formed.

You can try until your hearts content, Both the Third Reich and Imperial Japanese were winning the war until America joined in.

There is no otherwise. Europe was lost, the Middle East surrendered and the Imperial Japanese were working their way to the Panama canal. Germany held the Med. Sea side of Suez canal. Any third grader can do the math if the Germans had taken the Yemen strait and the Imperial Japanese had taken one side of the Panama canal.

In no way do I discredit any efforts or advances made by small groups against the Nazi Germans or Imperial Japanese,...they did what they could with what they had. It was not going to be enough, no if, and`s or but`s about it.

Today, the American Government is corrupt, and puts itself above the People and laws of our land,....that`s gonna change soon. American people are tired of being frowned apon by the actions of a greedy, corrupt, and power hungry Government we are supposed to trust. Look at the People running for the Presidency today, only one of those people has nothing to do with they way our Government is today or the situations America faces today, and none of the other Candidates like him for that.
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That's total "'Murica Fuck Yeah" bullshit history.

Hitler concentrated too many assets to the eastern front for a war of attrition with the Soviets, the Soviets had a policy of scorched earth so the Germans couldn't use Russian infrastructure to advance.

Prior to Hitler's invasion, Stalin moved all heavy industry east to the Urals.

By the time of the Winter War, Russian heavy industry was swinging back into high gear and if the winter hadn't killed the Nazis they were about to face a full scale Russian counterattack.

You also seem to forget that Britain had already defended itself successfully against the Lufftwaffe in the Battle of Britain, decemating German air power and it marked the start of Britian bombing mainland Europe before the US even joined in.

Learn to history, dumbass.
 
OddBall1st

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Harrekin said:
That's total "'Murica Fuck Yeah" bullshit history.

Hitler concentrated too many assets to the eastern front for a war of attrition with the Soviets, the Soviets had a policy of scorched earth so the Germans couldn't use Russian infrastructure to advance.

Prior to Hitler's invasion, Stalin moved all heavy industry east to the Urals.

By the time of the Winter War, Russian heavy industry was swinging back into high gear and if the winter hadn't killed the Nazis they were about to face a full scale Russian counterattack.

You also seem to forget that Britain had already defended itself successfully against the Lufftwaffe in the Battle of Britain, decemating German air power and it marked the start of Britian bombing mainland Europe before the US even joined in.

Learn to history, dumbass.
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Again, until you show otherwise, Europe, was lost, the Middle East had surrendered, and China was losing when America stepped into the war by supplying the Russians that were beaten back to about Moscow, and when trained and supplied, hit Cassablanca, to begin the Nazi demise. It was Americas that changed the war and stayed in the war and who accepted the surrenders. Russia played a huge roll after their first river crossing in the push to berlin. They could not have done it without American supplies.

So your green ass remembers, Ireland played no roll whatsoever in the defeat of Nazi Germany however little contributions they made. London was about to fall to buzz bombs and the whole D-Day thing really didn`t have to happen, the loss of the African fronts were devastating to oil supplies to Germany. The Nazi could not fight three Fronts at the same time.

I know your little green ass wants credit, but you get none. Sorry, wait till the next World War to be brave. You should not feel shame like the Middle East, you should however know what defeat is, you are still in that circle.
 
Harrekin

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OddBall1st said:
Again, until you show otherwise, Europe, was lost, the Middle East had surrendered, and China was losing when America stepped into the war by supplying the Russians that were beaten back to about Moscow, and when trained and supplied, hit Cassablanca, to begin the Nazi demise. It was Americas that changed the war and stayed in the war and who accepted the surrenders. Russia played a huge roll after their first river crossing in the push to berlin. They could not have done it without American supplies.

So your green ass remembers, Ireland played no roll whatsoever in the defeat of Nazi Germany however little contributions they made. London was about to fall to buzz bombs and the whole D-Day thing really didn`t have to happen, the loss of the African fronts were devastating to oil supplies to Germany. The Nazi could not fight three Fronts at the same time.

I know your little green ass wants credit, but you get none. Sorry, wait till the next World War to be brave. You should not feel shame like the Middle East, you should however know what defeat is, you are still in that circle.
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My God man, read a book sometime.
 
OddBall1st

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This just in,....

....The Irish navy along with the Palestinian Navy sinks three of the five Imperial Japanese Carriers, needed to defete Japanese advances in the Pacific,..... American claims debunked,...more at 11.

The last two Carriers were sunk by the Iranians, America shamed for lying about success in WWII.

The Battleships Washington Class and SODAK Class were all dreams. Yamato sunk by storm and Musashi runs aground and sinks after hitting shoals. Fuso runs away.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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OddBall1st said:
This just in,....

....The Irish navy along with the Palestinian Navy sinks three of the five Imperial Japanese Carriers, needed to defete Japanese advances in the Pacific,..... American claims debunked,...more at 11.

The last two Carriers were sunk by the Iranians, America shamed for lying about success in WWII.

The Battleships Washington Class and SODAK Class were all dreams. Yamato sunk by storm and Musashi runs aground and sinks after hitting shoals. Fuso runs away.
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We weren't attacked in WWII cos we're neutral.

America is a protagonist.

Apples and oranges.
 
Rob Roy

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OddBall1st said:
If someone had captured me and my family, and someone else killed them and freed me, I don`t think I would be pissed at them and I would make an offer to give thanks.
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Don't confuse a change in masters as being "freed" .

It's a common mistake though, so you're not alone in your delusion.
 
OddBall1st

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Rob Roy said:
Don't confuse a change in masters as being "freed" .

It's a common mistake though, so you're not alone in your delusion.
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Were your children free to do whatever they damn well pleased to anyone anywhere ? Don`t confuse a Master with a Parent.
 
Uncle Ben

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We are and continue to be humiliated by a bunch of radical Iranian shitheads and Obama just gave away the farm. That was the most one sided, wimp ass "deal" between two nations I've ever seen. No wonder everyone's calling Obama a pussy. He's earned the title.

The American people should be angry at the humiliation, the defeat, Obama put this country thru recently.

Trump is right, we have to "make America great again".

 
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see4

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nitro harley said:
I think Trump got his message out to Iran just like Reagan did. All hostages are released today, TRUMP!
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nitro harley said:
I can't argue with that, and at the same time they are thinking about Trump!
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nitro harley said:
Well, I don't know what to tell you, good luck. TRUMP!
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NLXSK1 said:
We actually traded Iranian Detainees back in exchange for these prisoners. So this was a completely different negotiation. Obama probably would have let them stay prisoners even as we lifted the sanctions.
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And then we let 7 Iranians go some of them charged with terrorism in exchange for 4 American prisoners charged with Christianity... TRUMP!!!
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Uncle Ben said:
We are and continue to be humiliated by a bunch of radical Iranian shitheads and Obama just gave away the farm. That was the most one sided, wimp ass "deal" between two nations I've ever seen. No wonder everyone's calling Obama a pussy. He's earned the title.

The American people should be angry at the humiliation, the defeat, Obama put this country thru recently.

Trump is right, we have to "make America great again".
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