Canada’s pot industry calling on Ottawa to stop rise of illegal stores Mike Hager

[Lightgreen2k]

Was it not being grown in mines, at home and by dg's?
Apparently, according to the general consensus it was better access
And cheaper back then.

Who caused that to change?

Exactly what I thought. A person That had Zero idea or clue about the mmar, not a member of the program giving there insight.

For one you said , people are not sure where the dispensaries are getting there medicine/ flowers from.

Was it not grown in mines where did you get this from.

The whole thing has been about access! Many doctors back then were not signing people up to be apart of the MMAR program , hence people had to find access to medicine that would work for them.

If you didn't know how to grow how would you get medicine.

Let me ask you another question ? How did one person go about finding a grower to grow for them. There was no application to get a grower , so when you said wasn't there DG's How would one come across this person!

This is the shit people have to put up with. People as yourself misinformed giving there opinons on stuff they have no clear idea what there talking about.

Another thing, why are you growing your own medicine . I mean if your , faulting dispensaries, why even grow.

so 3 things to answer.

 

[ricky1lung]

Exactly what I thought. A person That had Zero idea or clue about the mmar, not a member of the program giving there insight.

For one you said , people are not sure where the dispensaries are getting there medicine/ flowers from.

Was it not grown in mines where did you get this from.

The whole thing has been about access! Many doctors back then were not signing people up to be apart of the MMAR program , hence people had to find access to medicine that would work for them.

If you didn't know how to grow how would you get medicine.

Let me ask you another question ? How did one person go about finding a grower to grow for them. There was no application to get a grower , so when you said wasn't there DG's How would one come across this person!

This is the shit people have to put up with. People as yourself misinformed giving there opinons on stuff they have no clear idea what there talking about.

Another thing, why are you growing your own medicine . I mean if your , faulting dispensaries, why even grow.

so 3 things to answer.

I won't even bother picking this apart. Everyone else who knows anything can clearly see your errors without me having to point them out.

It's funny how some people think people outside of the program have no clue what they're talking about, yet are forced to chase their own tails when they argue truthful statements.

Step outside the box to see the whole picture.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

I won't even bother picking this apart. Everyone else who knows anything can clearly see your errors without me having to point them out.

It's funny how some people think people outside of the program have no clue what they're talking about, yet are forced to chase their own tails when they argue truthful statements.

Step outside the box to see the whole picture.

No pick it Apart. You bring your big talks, and have no idea.

where were people supposed to get there DG's from or A Signing Dr?

Like I said people love to spew shit and when get called on it they say bullshit answers like
"I'm not even going to pick this apart or justify to answer crap"

Yet you don't know how or why dispensaries had operated. just leave the thread if you cant answer the basic questions. Everything else you have said holds no value.!!! Straight up.

 

[ricky1lung]

No pick it Apart. You bring your big talks, have and no idea.

where were people supposed to get there DG's from or A Signing Dr?

Like I said people love to spew shit and when get called on it they say bullshit answers like
"I'm not even going to pick this apart or justify to answer crap"

Yet you don't know how or why dispensaries had operated. just leave the thread if you cant answer the basic questions. Everything else you have said holds no value.!!! Straight up.

There's plenty of dg threads on this site alone. Nevermind the plethora of other places available.

This/you is/are too easy.
Anything else you'd like an answer to? Make it worthwhile answering at least though.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

@ricky1lung

And another thing dispensaries are not going away anywhere fast. Based on what other judges rulings have been.

Ask Calm / Section 56 and a few others. The police tried to shut them down, they went to court / had patients come in and explain that they didn't have access to meds or a grower and dispensaries served them and help them get meds.

I was one of these patients that had no access or family Dr that wanted to sign so again you are misguided. Do you see anyone agreeing with you in the thread or will agree after what I posted ... Nope. But keep the rose colored sunglasses on.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

There's plenty of dg threads on this site alone. Nevermind the plethora of other places available.

This/you is/are too easy.
Anything else you'd like an answer to? Make it worthwhile answering at least though.

pull up a DG thread that was here in 2008-2011.

where were the many other places to get meds from? The black market or where?

Plus let's talk about roll it up, if you were apart of roll it up, how would you be seeing a DG thread ?

Stop this all your arguments are flawed. Do you see anyone liking your points or challenging my arguments vs the amount of people challenging yours

 

[ricky1lung]

@ricky1lung

And another thing dispensaries are going Not going away anywhere fast. Based on what other judges rulings have been.

Ask Calm / Section 56 and a few others. The police tried to shut them down, they went to court / had patients come in and explain that they didn't have access to meds or a grower and dispensaries served them and help them get meds.

I was one of these patients that had no access or family Dr that wanted to sign so again you are misguided. Do you see anyone agreeing with you in the thread or will agree after what I posted ... Nope. But keep the rose colored sunglasses on.

I don't want them to go away. I want them to have a place within a legal, controlled and regulated market.

I just won't blindly follow the current "heroes" who actually played a huge role in creating the mmpr and everything that came with it.

Grey or not, it's always been ilegal and some people chose to use the mmar as a way to pad their own wallets and screw over everyone else in the process.

Why anyone would slam an lp that was forced into creation and regulation when it's the guys selling weed from store fronts illegally who caused it all in the first place under the guise of compassion.

 

[ricky1lung]

pull up a DG thread that was here in 2008-2011.

where were the many other places to get meds from? The black market or where ?

Dg --> designated grower
Friend, family, someone who you designate and is approved to grow for you.

Wtf?
This isn't worth my time.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

Dg --> designated grower
Friend, family, someone who you designate and is approved to grow for you.

Wtf?
This isn't worth my time.

You must be slow or retarded.

Where would a person find a grower if they didn't know anyone that grew.

WTF is so hard to grasp that concept. Howe many "law" abiding citizens new people that grew marijuana. I guess everyone knows a marijuana grower and everyone grows since it's so easy.

Take Several Seats.!!!!

 

[Lightgreen2k]

You must be slow or retarded.

Where would a person find a grower if they didn't know anyone that grew.

WTF is so hard to grasp that concept. Howe many "law" abiding citizens new people that grew marijuana. I guess everyone knows a marijuana grower and everyone grows since it's so easy.

Take Several Seats.!!!!

That's why dispensaries existed for people that couldn't find a grower or themselves grow.

you may grow , I may grow but the vast majority of Canadians didn't grow or know an actual grower or plug.

Even in the black market do you think the grower just supplies everyone or is there several middle man.

Just stop, you already lost... I'm going to see the opinions of a few others.

 

[ricky1lung]

You must be slow or retarded.

Where would a person find a grower if they didn't know anyone that grew.

WTF is so hard to grasp that concept. Howe many "law" abiding citizens new people that grew marijuana. I guess everyone knows a marijuana grower and everyone grows since it's so easy.

Take Several Seats.!!!!

I have friends and family. Do you?
That's an easy one.
Otherwise, a simple google search would've been another source to find a dg.
That's just the dg aspect.

I'm having no trouble grasping anything, I'm just not willing to enter into blatantly dumb arguments anymore.

 

[ricky1lung]

That's why dispensaries existed for people that couldn't find a grower or themselves grow.

you may grow , I may grow but the vast majority of Canadians didn't grow or know an actual grower or plug.

Even in the black market do you think the grower just supplies everyone or is there several middle man.

Just stop, you already lost... I'm going to see the opinions of a few others.

You are arguing in support of the people who helped screw over the whole system and everyone in it.

As long as you're good with that.

 

[Lightgreen2k]

I have friends and family. Do you?
That's an easy one.
Otherwise, a simple google search would've been another source to find a dg.
That's just the dg aspect.

I'm having no trouble grasping anything, I'm just not willing to enter into blatantly dumb arguments anymore.

I can attest to the fact Google didn't have an Dg's popping up back then. Btw I'm glad you grow and advocate for everyone to grow...

Theven point being is that it was not so easy to find a DG back then or access. you're looking at it from the standpoint that you could grow or had family members and friends that do.

Many people didn't have this. kijiji and Craigslist back then didn't have Dg's on it like that. It was near impossible to find one , hence the need of dispensaries..

I don't believe in Health Canada make it so hard for normal people "mom and pop" growers have so many barriers to entry.

Imagine having to sit on a property for months and still having to pay a mortgage, just to operate.

With medicinal if barriers to entry were easier for normal people great. Most of the people that are LPS have no love for the plant and wanted big profits (which is fine ) but one thing they failed to do studies on which they couldon't not was the purchasing habits of cannabis users.

they probably had their pie charts and analysts predicting what they thought in a market they had no idea operates!

Now with Recreational
I think if they "Liberals" followed something similar to Washington it would be better for everyone.

 

[c ray]

the MMPR is a framework for cultural genocide.

 

[ricky1lung]

I can attest to the fact Google didn't have an Dg's popping up back then. Btw I'm glad you grow and advocate for everyone to grow...

Theven point being is that it was not so easy to find a DG back then or access. you're looking at it from the standpoint that you could grow or had family members and friends that do.

Many people didn't have this. kijiji and Craigslist back then didn't have Dg's on it like that. It was near impossible to find one , hence the need of dispensaries..

I don't believe in Health Canada make it so hard for normal people "mom and pop" growers have so many barriers to entry.

Imagine having to sit on a property for months and still having to pay a mortgage, just to operate.

With medicinal if barriers to entry where easier for normal people great. Most of the people that are LPS have no love for the plant and wanted big profits (which is fine ) but one thing they failed to do studies on which they couldon't not was the purchasing habits of cannabis users.

they probably had there pie charts and analysts predicting what they thought in a market they had no idea operates!

Now with Recreational
I think if they "Liberals" followed something similar to Washington it would be better for everyone.

I believe, going back to mmar, there are those who used the system for profit and hurt everyone in the process. They should not be regarded as today's heroes and gain the publics sympathy.

They should be part of the solution though, in a fair and legal market. If I'm out of my personal stash or want to break tolerance of a strain I'd be happy to visit one provided the operated under legal guidelines so I know what they are allowed to sell and what's prohibited.

It never should have been hard to get into a legal med system, but all factors considered, some people within the system sure made it more difficult for everyone else.

I can't support that, it's worse to me than people following the laws and regulations to provide product after the other guys forced those changes to be made.

 

[c ray]

people who complain about mmar overgrowers are not fans of cheap weed

 

[ricky1lung]

people who complain about mmar overgrowers are not fans of cheap weed

On the other hand, those who supported it played a major role in creating the even bigger mmpr mess.

It's a catch 22.

It can be resolved fairly.

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

Another way of looking at it is the mmar 'overgrowers' precipitated the change in public attitude by supplying store front dispensaries. The change has been slow, but marijuana use, both medical and recreational, is becoming normal and accepted. It wouldn't have happened without the mmar, imo. I liken the growers to the moonshiners and bootleggers from a different era. When the dust settles, EVERYONE will be allowed to grow and hopefully those that wish can make an honest living supplying those who can't grow for whatever reason.

 

[The Hippy]

On the other hand, those who supported it played a major role in creating the even bigger mmpr mess.

It's a catch 22.

It can be resolved fairly.

Duh....I don't even bother telling ya anymore. Nobodies buying what your selling.....that's extremely obvious.
Your the only one touting the love for LP's...ok well 2 others maybe. And they say i'm a broken 78.

 

[ricky1lung]

Duh....I don't even bother telling ya anymore. Nobodies buying what your selling.....that's extremely obvious.
Your the only one touting the love for LP's...ok well 2 others maybe. And they say i'm a broken 78.

We just have different points of view. We don't have to agree.
The facts don't change though, neither side is innocent.

Bottom line is, home grows need to be legal.
Lp's and dispensaries can work out a production and supply chain between them in a regulated and controlled system.

I think everyone would rather know what is and isn't allowed to be in their meds than leave it to assumptions or blind trust.

If you don't want to grab a product off a shelf and prefer your own garden than great, it's a fun hobby. Those who would rather buy a pack of splifs than grow it should have that choice, lp's are needed for a real market with quality products.