"Area 51 LED" Information and discussion

[churtmunk]

More info flow from a51 would be great. Got 1 each of 4 models of a51 and am enjoying the ride! Never one problem and superior results, even with the old xgs. These and the few other top tier 3w and 5w last generation LEDs destroy hps. Only up from here with cobs.

Check out @GreenSanta grow https://www.rollitup.org/t/a51-w90s-grow.885925/... He just finished a run flowering with the W90s. very nice

 

[swagslayer420]

posted 1/16/16!!!!
A51 has 3 brand new lamp fixtures on the way, 2 to be released in a couple weeks, and 1 more to be released in about 6-8 weeks.

1st Model:
(1) CXB3590 3500k CD
(1) Mean Well 2.1a power supply
(1) 120mm fan
(1) Mean Well 12v power supply for fan
Total Power: 90w +/- 2w
Efficiency: 50%
Price: TBD

2nd Model:
(4) CXB3590 3500k CD
(1) Mean Well 700mA power supply
(1) 120mm fan
(1) Mean Well 12v power supply for fan
Total Power: 104w +/- 2w
Efficiency: 64.5%
Price: TBD

3rd Model:
(6) Bridgelux Vero 29 4000k
(2) Mean Well 1.05-2.1a dimmable power supplies
(6) 120mm fan
(2) Mean Well 12v power supply for fan
Total Power: 280-530w +/- 2%
Efficiency: 41%-52%
Price: TBD

There's a 4th model that we're considering. We're building a prototype right now.

4th Model:
( CXB3590 3500k CD
(1) Mean Well 350mA power supply
(2) 120mm fan
(1) Mean Well 12v power supply for fan
Total Power: 100w +/- 2w
Efficiency: 70%+
Price: TBD

 

[az2000]

A51 has 3 brand new lamp fixtures on the way, 2 to be released in a couple weeks, and 1 more to be released in about 6-8 weeks.

1. Will those models replace the existing three W90 models? Or, be additional choices?

2. Is the frequent (and long) out-of-stock condition due to demand, or is there a supplier problem?​

I always like to refer people to A51. But, it's kind of hard lately because of no stock. I'm curious if they're *that* popular, or a problem in the background which will improve?

 

[swagslayer420]

1. Will those models replace the existing three W90 models? Or, be additional choices?

2. Is the frequent (and long) out-of-stock condition due to demand, or is there a supplier problem?​

I always like to refer people to A51. But, it's kind of hard lately because of no stock. I'm curious if they're *that* popular, or a problem in the background which will improve?

I think the w90 will come back in stock at some point but it seems they have moved on to new models.

As far as I know it was a supplier problem but things are on the way in a few weeks my guess early feb- late feb.

 

[JediMindTrix]

New offerings on the site. Thoughts?

Does this "660 PPFD (24" x 24")" basically mean you get a 2x2 footprint of light that would match up to a 600 hps?

 

[Yodaweed]

New offerings on the site. Thoughts?

I think I choked when I saw the price for a single 100 watt unit... no words here...just wow...

 

[PSUAGRO.]

I think I choked when I saw the price for a single W100 unit... no words here...just wow...

read it again==== 4 cxb cobs, price is fine for a prebuilt unit imo

 

[Yodaweed]

read it again==== 4 cxb cobs, price is fine for a prebuilt unit imo

They running those at 1/4th the wattage they should be, unit only covers a 2x2 area with 100 watts of power, extremely over priced considering the vero unit is 175$ and covers the same area.

 

[swagslayer420]

RW-150.1 LED Grow Light (Limited Supply)

Unit Size: 12" wide, 18" long, 2.75" thick

Cree XPG2 XPGBWT-01-0000-00KF 4250K S3

Cree XPE2 Red XPEBRD-L1-0000-00901 P4

Mean Well 700mA Power supplies

Electrical Consumption: 80w Veg Mode; 160w Flowering Mode

80° Degree secondary Optics
$595

 

[swagslayer420]

Estimated Restock Date: 15th March 2016
Unit Size: 11.25" wide, 6.75" long, 3.125" thick

This lamp is connectable. You can connect up to 8 units making 1 large fixture using the supplied connectors.

Power Source: Bridgelux Vero 29 v2 4000k

Total Electrical Consumption: 90w

Recommended flowering footprint:
Minimum: 18"x18" Maximum: 24"x24" Optimal: 20"x20"

Recommended veg footprint:
Up to 32"x32"

Cooling: Large Finned Aluminum Heat Sink + (1) 120mm 73cfm/10dba ball bearing fan.

The included reflector is designed to catch the stray beams, rather than correct the entire beam angle. It corrects approximately 10% of the entire beam and is also 90% + reflective, meaning our reflectors are 99% efficient.

Daisy Chain up to 16 Units: You should check to see what the maximum load is on your circuit breaker before connecting too many units. You do not need a special cord to daisy chain. The 1st unit plugs into the 2nd unit, 2nd into the 3rd etc... then the last unit plugs into the wall.

Our grow lights will operate on any voltage from 100v-240v. You do not need any special drivers or cords to run on different voltages.

Ships from the USA

Limited Lifetime Warranty
$ 199.50

 

[swagslayer420]

(4) Cree CXB3590 3500k CD

Mean Well 700mA Power Supply

Total Electrical Consumption: 103w

64% Effecient

660 PPFD (24" x 24")

120mm Fan + Mean Well 12v4535 Power Supply

Ships from the USA
$535

 

[PSUAGRO.]

They running those at 1/4th the wattage they should be, unit only covers a 2x2 area with 100 watts of power, extremely over priced considering the vero unit is 175$ and covers the same area.

It's for the "$efficiency$" crowd NOT for "best bang for my buck" crowd

edit........added ^$^ for effect

 

[Yodaweed]

It's for the "efficiency" crowd NOT for "best bang for my buck" crowd

That's cool, but I want big huge buds, and I don't think 100 watts gonna do that, I would have to say these lights are not for commercial or larger scale operations, looks to me this is a light for a grow closet at best.

 

[Greengenes707]

That's cool, but I want big huge buds, and I don't think 100 watts gonna do that, I would have to say these lights are not for commercial or larger scale operations, looks to me this is a light for a grow closet at best.

Light is cumulative.

 

[Yodaweed]

When will an LED maker realize, the majority of us legal growers are moving up in scale not down, we are getting BIGGER more POWERFUL lights, aka 1kw DE lights, these closet lights are so over priced...who is going to blindly waste money like that, I could put that money into better things, I just don't see it.

 

[Yodaweed]

Light is cumulative.

So for 50 grand I can cover half my basement? That sounds like its cumulatively emptying my wallet.

 

[kmog33]

I think I choked when I saw the price for a single 100 watt unit... no words here...just wow...

They running those at 1/4th the wattage they should be, unit only covers a 2x2 area with 100 watts of power, extremely over priced considering the vero unit is 175$ and covers the same area.

He's copying one of my fixtures lol. Build a 100 watt 4 X 3070 fixture last year. Cost $150 to build. 4 X 3070 at 720mA.


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[Yodaweed]

He's copying one of my fixtures lol. Build a 100 watt 4 X 3070 fixture last year. Cost $150 to build. 4 X 3070 at 720mA.


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See 150-200 dollars is completely reasonable for a light of that quality. I would totally for a light at that price point. That's what these lights should cost, they are relatively cheap to build....so much mark up...

 

[PSUAGRO.]

That's cool, but I want big huge buds, and I don't think 100 watts gonna do that, I would have to say these lights are not for commercial or larger scale operations, looks to me this is a light for a grow closet at best.

growers asked for this and EH is supplying their demand======= BUSINESS

Light is cumulative.

..............ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

When will an LED maker realize, the majority of us legal growers are moving up in scale not down, we are getting BIGGER more POWERFUL lights, aka 1kw DE lights, these closet lights are so over priced...who is going to blindly waste money like that, I could put that money into better things, I just don't see it.

a51 was always about closet/tent growers........others make bigger/higher wattage cob panels

 

[Yodaweed]

And yet you come into the led area and specifically a51 thread every chance you get. We know you have a crush on jeff and his lights and can't afford them. But why keep torturing yourself?

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Just humorous to me to watch you LEDs guys try to progress, its like watching the special Olympics , you all should get a prize.