Elwood Diggler
Well-Known Member
Im very late to this party lol , still cant contribute much until i find out my status from ICE on monday .
With that being said using rhetoric spewed at a debate is the absolute worst example of how anything is going to work with bernie sanders socialist utopia he has college kids & broke people frothing over , the 1st thing you need to understand is that socialism , just like capitalism , is a business , only with very different business models , socialist business model is far different than any other business model , its closest model is a ponzi scheme , screw the jibberish bernie spews because he isnt telling all the facts , nor are you allowed to see a successfull business model any EU country employs , sweden is near collapse so its best you dont use them as an example .
#1 Socialism is like a ponzi scheme , or to frame it in a more politically correct light socialism is exactly like a pension plan , the benifits being paid out today are from the work , and taxes paid in by others , lets say socialism is on a 1 person collecting for every 10 people paying scale for the sake of arguement , in order for that business model to work it requires a non stop work force ten times larger than the number of people collecting benifits , if any jobs are lost that loss goes direct into the pay out column , if any new " social debts " are created ( mass immigration ) those debts go into the pay out column .
#2 Socialism requires that the employement rate is allways paying in its equal , or above its pay out rate , the slightest loss of jobs creates less money in the " pay in column " , which then has enormous effects at the pay out end , which translates into 2 options , which are charging the fewer workers higher taxes , or paying out drastically reduced benifts to those not working but collect , you cant fudge the figures with political double talk .
3 No place in the entire world is there an example of a successfull socialist economy , sweden has only been socialist for about 50 yrs & are now nearing collapse .
You might point to other EU countries as an example & id counter with greece , for nearly 12 yrs greece has been bankrupt & are supported by the rest of the EU , who are getting seriously pissed off about supporting an entire country where its more profitable to collect than work , sweden while nearing collapse is the best example of a socialist government , greece being the absolute worst , and no EU socialist country has the massive government costs of the usa , or our military costs & they are all in seriois economic trouble right now , youd know much more if most of the EU & UK werent in a forced media , and social media black out .
Lets go back to the utopia of sweden , who has 1,50th the immigrants the usa has , sweden has proven it takes 7-8 yrs to get roughly half the unemployed immigrant work force employeed so they can " start " paying in taxes , the other 50% will remain jobless their entire lives , these numbers are from economists in sweden , so for every 10,000 unemployed people those 10,000 are a full burden on the " pay out " column for 7-8 yrs , to offset this huge payout another 100,000 workers need to be added to the economys " pay in " tax column immediately , or drastically raise workers taxes again ,which sweden is learning the hard way will break your economy .
All you guys rooting for bernie sanders have been witheld information critical to the issue , socialism is a ponzi scheme who's apeal is to those who dont have , those that wish they had , and those who want free shit , not a single working person wants socialism .
can you point to any conservative policy successes? michigan? kansas? wisconsin?
